Musician Archive
Thread: Top Issues Polling Get them in now!
Caliet
Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:18 pm
#27
1. Kill the buffbots. (Heck literally have storm troopers come in after a player has been afk for more than 5 minutes and say "you have violated article 18346.214 of the Imperial Entertainment Code you have 5 seconds to respond to these charges." When the bot fails to respond to an on screen prompt the storm troopersopen fire.)
2. Remove other characters ability tomess with the large instruments. I would gladly give up the ability to have multiple masters play one instrument in exchange for not having some jerk walk off with it.
3. Make the entertainer terminal quests more like the New song/dance quest and make the payouts similar to combat quests. Entertainers are the Galaxies rock stars but their missions suck and they get paid like dish boys.
4. Eliminate the 15 second pause. Life was much better when you could seamlessly switch instruments and songs allowing for creativity on the part of the entertainer.
5. More music and instrument variation. Western is a good start but don't let it die there.
Drygo
Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:46 pm
#28
1. Remove afk
2. Self buffing
3. Include us in game wide content (ie, the village, the GCW, etc.)
4. More songs andMore instruments (or make each instrument sound unique)
5. Fun entertainer quests/content/games
Message Edited by Drygo on 02-03-2005 05:47 PM
bawler14
Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:17 am
#29
Warryyr wrote:
Yeah, this was a joke - for those of you without a sense of humor. Just thought I'd give you the 411.
Warryyr wrote:
Aleyo wrote:
For what it's worth, let's try to keep discussion in other threads if at all possible. I don't mind filtering discussion from responses to the poll, but I would hate it if this thread poofed due to flaming or anything like that. That cool with ya'll?![]()
Message Edited by Aleyo on 02-02-2005 01:10 PM
No.
*puts on troublemaker hat*
muahahahaha
Wookiees have a sense of humor? *boggle*
NeillM
Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:49 pm
#30
Warryyr wrote:
Yeah, this was a joke - for those of you without a sense of humor. Just thought I'd give you the 411.
A sense of humour is so over-rated!
Echinacea
Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:38 pm
#31
The passive nature of our mechanical services to other players • I think the root of our problems with unattended gameplay stem from us not having direct control in every single instance of who benefits from our healing and enhancing abilities. I think passive healing and buffing needs to go.
Self-buffing • The excuse of our getting a few points of Entertainment Healing experience from buffing ourselves breaking the game is idiotic.
Duplicate sounds for instruments • Even though only ten instruments is still kind of limited, I'd be easier with the range if every single type of horn had its own sound. I think diversifying the sounds of our existing instruments should take priority over creating new ones (though I would really like it if the work on the Xatha was fleshed out and finished).
Change Denial of Service • Just change it to work off the Ignore List. The way it works now is insulting.
Force Sensitive Heightened Senses Healing bonuses • We have zero need for any more Wound Healing skills. Change at least half the boxes to Battle Fatigue Healing, and maybe the last one to have +5 to our dance and musical mind enhancement? Not to mention, we should be able to unlock the trees we can spend our experience on as Entertainers.
Player Theaters • They're just awful. We all know it. You can't perform any of our mechanical functions on the stage, there's no actual seating, can't use ground instruments onstage, or use droids' effects. Please, just make them into miniature versions of the Guild Hall Theaters in NPC cities.
Instrument experimentation • Have the quality of our instruments mean something, whether for how much Action it takes us to perform, or how well we heal or buff...anything.
Fatigue Healing away from the Cantina • Either in a Ranger camp or with a droid module...the whole "cantina as a social center" isn't working. Give it up and quit penalizing us. If you really want to keep us as red-headed stepchildren, leave the buffing in the currently enabled structures.
Registration • It's still not exactly what I'd call working. I can /register in a City Hall, a player city Med Center (though not an NPC one), and I'll be checking on other structures. Only a Novice Doctor should be able to register in a Med Center of any kind. We should be able to register in Cantinas, Theaters, Hotels andTaverns. That's plenty.
I'm sure I'm forgetting things. I'm not going to go into how I think we should be able to craft recordings that can get used at the very least for healing with a droid module.
Message Edited by Echinacea on 02-05-2005 08:38 PM
Gknee
Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:11 am
#32
1. AFK game play
2. no feedback for buffing
3. the /deny not being "sticky" and not having any kind of a way to check who is on your list.
4. /changeb bugging members of the band if they are stopped
5. No grouping with playback droids in space.
SithLord2600
Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:33 pm
#33
1. More songs.
2. Make the Star Wars songs sound exactly like the movies. One flourish of one song is not enough(like jukebox except with imperial march added).
3. A trumpet type instrument. Most of the instruments are variations of a clarinet or saxophone.
4. Fix buffing interface.
5. Musicians in the GCW, marching on the battlefield.
6. Simple music creation but not too complax to cause a copyright infringement.
7. Tempo should be an option.
8. Dynamics should be able to be changed letting the melody play out then get soft when another instrument has the melody.
9. Jukebox-Musician Integration.
10. making sure song, instrument, and quality still doesn't matter, that last thing this game needs is for everyone to only play one song on one uber instrument.
Message Edited by SithLord2600 on 03-09-2005 06:55 PM
Mariki
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:00 am
#34
I started the thread to revisit the delay and I think that one should be included in this list also.
1) Change the delay timer to begin after we start playing so that after we have been playing the 15 seconds, we can change instruments, restart because of bugs, etc, without a delay.
2) Change the Omnibox and Nal to operate exactly like the other instruments. Make them personal instruments where someone else cannot target or play your instrument. Make it so one cannotmove without unequipting them to solve the walking Nal or omnibox problem that will ensure. If this means the end of the house Nal or Omni as window dressing or use without admin, so be it. The Nal or Omni would change to only be visable when equipt.
3) More songs, instruments,and quests. Remember we are not combat people when coming up with them too. That means dangerous planets or mobs are a major thing to avoid. (Those wookies on Dath for lifeday area prime example of you forgeting that sometimes).
4) Eliminate the buffbots. I consider this much more critical then afkers in general. Grinding is one thing but taking away the job of masters is quite another. Eliminate the ability of adding someone to a group without actually hitting an "accept" button that can't be done by macro. Also add this confirmation button to /setperform.
5) Props. Give us some props, give dancers a cane so they don't have to dance with a sword, give us music stands, give us colorful outfits like the Iths have, give us ahat that we would actually consider wearing, give us a microphone, and give us a real stagelight.
Message Edited by Mariki on 03-08-2005 07:06 AM
Mariki
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:24 am
#35
Echinacea wrote:
The passive nature of our mechanical services to other players • I think the root of our problems with unattended gameplay stem from us not having direct control in every single instance of who benefits from our healing and enhancing abilities. I think passive healing and buffing needs to go.
You know, I really like this idea. Perhaps our /setperform should function for all our healing abilities and we should have something like /setbuff for buffs. This really would solve a lot of problems and we would operate like all the other healing professions. We wouldn't even need a deny services then, we would be in control of who gets healed. The only downside would be group experience for healing but those who are active and healing people wouldn't have a problem, those who are afk would get none. I could live with that... All the other healing professions survive with it....Even as a compromise, without setperform, let healing be as slow as sitting in a med center with wounds. Everyone would be scrambling to get a /setperform
omadnay
Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:30 pm
#36
1) Eliminate AFK Capabilities/Dominance.
2) Buff Self; Self Benefit (All Professions should be playable in many different styles... entertainers are basically only desirable to us weirdos that like to make our avatars perform. Making them more self beneficial and adding deeper nuiances within the profesions could open them up to more people's interests)
3) Ceremonial and Mandoviol in The Master Musician Box (It can remain in Master Entertainer, just put it in Master Musician as well).
4) Entertainer Only Content. The Entertainer Professions are one of the most unique aspects of this game and they deserve serious developement which could create new and innovative gaming designs. Every Path should have equal content... SWG could be historic in that aspect.
5) Nalargon and omni-box targeting system.
5.B) Stop/Start Delay Timer: Switch it to start the timer after starting instead of after stopping (Hope that works... not my idea, but an excellent one.. and apparently already being "discussed").
I really hate to leave the delay timer off of the top 5, but maybe I'm cheating since it seems to be acknowledged already (Though I know that doesn't mean it's going to be changed... but I'm playing the odds).
7) Village Quest involving Entertainer Skills. Aren't we all equal?
8) Buff Interface: At the very least, let us know that we've done our job.
9) More songs (And Without a 400k xp and quest requirement)
10) Increase Mission Payouts based on Musician Skill.
11) Fix Player Theatres
12) (I forgot this one... maybe I should rate it higher...) Allow grouping with Droids in Space so we can perform inside Ships.
1,098) Give us TKA Meditation, Fencer Dodge, Force Lightning and AFKer-Annihilation Weapons.
- Omadda Szool
Kauri
May the force be with you.
2) Buff Self; Self Benefit (All Professions should be playable in many different styles... entertainers are basically only desirable to us weirdos that like to make our avatars perform. Making them more self beneficial and adding deeper nuiances within the profesions could open them up to more people's interests)
3) Ceremonial and Mandoviol in The Master Musician Box (It can remain in Master Entertainer, just put it in Master Musician as well).
4) Entertainer Only Content. The Entertainer Professions are one of the most unique aspects of this game and they deserve serious developement which could create new and innovative gaming designs. Every Path should have equal content... SWG could be historic in that aspect.
5) Nalargon and omni-box targeting system.
5.B) Stop/Start Delay Timer: Switch it to start the timer after starting instead of after stopping (Hope that works... not my idea, but an excellent one.. and apparently already being "discussed").
I really hate to leave the delay timer off of the top 5, but maybe I'm cheating since it seems to be acknowledged already (Though I know that doesn't mean it's going to be changed... but I'm playing the odds).
7) Village Quest involving Entertainer Skills. Aren't we all equal?
8) Buff Interface: At the very least, let us know that we've done our job.
9) More songs (And Without a 400k xp and quest requirement)
10) Increase Mission Payouts based on Musician Skill.
11) Fix Player Theatres
12) (I forgot this one... maybe I should rate it higher...) Allow grouping with Droids in Space so we can perform inside Ships.
1,098) Give us TKA Meditation, Fencer Dodge, Force Lightning and AFKer-Annihilation Weapons.
- Omadda Szool
Kauri
May the force be with you.
Message Edited by omadnay on 03-08-2005 09:02 PM
Aleyo
Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:06 am
#37
I'll be tallying these up after not too long, so get your votes in now, if you haven't already! Feel free to edit your issues if your priorities have changed from when you already posted.
Bionic
Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:40 pm
#38
1. No more AFK play
2. No more spamming NPC's in cantinas
3. Access to content (Village, quests, etc.)
4. New instruments
5. More songs
6. Performer-driven buff interface
7. Self buffs
8. Scaling missions
9. Meaning for the instrument assembly mods, otherwise removal
10. Working loudspeakers and microphones
2. No more spamming NPC's in cantinas
3. Access to content (Village, quests, etc.)
4. New instruments
5. More songs
6. Performer-driven buff interface
7. Self buffs
8. Scaling missions
9. Meaning for the instrument assembly mods, otherwise removal
10. Working loudspeakers and microphones
Eaca
Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:42 pm
#39
- AFK > ATK... still
- Even if ATK was gone we're still primarily relegated to the position of "buff slave" with the occasional "healing slave" while they're getting thier next buff.
- Jedi can heal better, faster, and in more areas than we can.
- Since our skills are pasive they are precieved to have little to no "value" by the rest of the player base.
- This one doesn't really matter because until the first problem is fixed, no amount of other changes will really amount to a hill of beans as far as the death and decline of live entertainement is concerned.