Musician Archive
Thread: I am absolutely livid over this new song quest
Mariki wrote:
I think its extremely unfair that one has to wait 24 hours after their programmed failure.
Atlantiss wrote:
You know Warryr, i really don't know why anyone else bothers to post.
You have such a way with words and i completely agree with everything you have said so far regarding the quest.
Keep on Wookin'
/agree
Warryr is one of the most upstanding and proud entertainers on the boards, or at least he talks like one.
Mariki wrote:
I'll tell you Drygo what is getting to me... Bugs and delays are annoyances, I can live with them, I have lived with them, we all have lived with them. But this quest is different, this quest gets emotional, this quest makes you feel like a failure. Two days now this quest has depressed me. There are a lot of things I want in a game but this isn't one of them. I can't play a game that emotionally depresses me, its just not worth it.
Its bringing out emotions that shouldn't be there and causing me too much stress. I love the people I have met in game. I love the folks in my Entertainers PA and what we have accomplished. My in game husband has been great and very supportive. I need to play a game now that doesn't depress me, that makes me feel good and that I have accomplished something. I need time away from SWG so I can make a decision if I want to go back. I don't want to be depressed, not by a game. This goes beyond the fact that I'm actually paying for this.
Loniki Lee
Entertainers United
I guess I don't feel like a failure when I do this quest only because I know that when I fail, it is completely beyond my control. The devs set it up such that every time I have tried as Drygo, I was never even given a snowballs chance in hell of passing. It's not my fault. So, my feeling is really more anger that I haven't gotten a chance to pass yet. I spent a total of 10 minutes this weekend (2 5 minute sessions) each day trying to pass this thing. And, I was really looking forward to spend some time having fun with this quest this weekend. But, I couldn't because I was set up to fail. I think that stinks. Because, the truth is, I now won't be able to try again until next weekend, when I will probably be set up to fail two more times. And, what's worse, is the people who have been lucky enough to actually have cooperative audiences are telling me how easy it is, and advertising for people to watch, and all I can think is, "gee, I wish I could actually participate in this quest." 
(Side note, the thing that makes me feel like a failure are the buffbots and the people that keep saying, "if only you tried hard enough. Or, you're just not good at what you do." I don't believe them, but I feel that "emotional" thing with that issue.)
Drygo wrote:
This is the part that pisses me off. If they had programmed failures and we didn't have to wait, fine. If we had to wait because we actually messed up, and not because they set us up to fail, then fine. But, the combination of the two makes me extremely angry. I know that I know what I'm doing here. My Tarquinas Master Dancer has been able to pass the performance part of the quest, while my Kettemoor master dancer has not been able to get past the first performance, and I try every damn day. And, the reason that I fail is because they programmed this quest so that sometimes you are just too unlucky and you don't get enough information from the audience. That sucks royally when you've got a 24 hour wait period in between tries. Why the hell they thought it would be a good idea to set it up this way, I have no idea. But, it's extremely unfair and maddening. It pisses me off to no end that I have to wait 24 hours because THEY set me up to fail.
Drygo,
It can be passed without ANY info from the audience. I passed all but the final one before they even implemented an audience appearing on TC, and since then they have made them easier to pass.
What is your method of attepting them? What dances are you doing? All but hated or just the requested? How much are you floing? What flos are you doing? All but hated or just the requested?
I haven't failed once other than a "not on stage" at the front edge since the final update on TC 1.5 months ago and I've done music2.5 timessince then and I'm working on dance.
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Fragpuppie wrote:
Drygo,
It can be passed without ANY info from the audience. I passed all but the final one before they even implemented an audience appearing on TC, and since then they have made them easier to pass.
What is your method of attepting them? What dances are you doing? All but hated or just the requested? How much are you floing? What flos are you doing? All but hated or just the requested?
I haven't failed once other than a "not on stage" at the front edge since the final update on TC 1.5 months ago and I've done music2.5 timessince then and I'm working on dance.
Do you mean to say you just had to go up there and do whatever and hope that you passed? Wow
Well, the one where I passed, on Tarquinas...I did the dance requested and the flo requested, and that was it, no switching,and I passed very easily and received "satisfied" long before the performance was over.
On Drygo, I have only been given the flo. So, I did the flo, and having no clue whatsoever what dance they wanted, I just kept switching dances. And, the whole time I never got any indication if they liked the dance or didn't like the dance. I could have done the dance they liked, followed by the dance they hated, and cancelled each other out. And, I never had any indication to continue any particular dance due to satisfaction ratings getting higher or anything like that.
I also wonder if maybe before the audience interaction was implemented on TC, if the coding was different? Perhaps at that time there wasn't anything built in saying a particular flo or dance would make your performance successful.
What is your method?
Message Edited by Mariki on 10-17-2004 06:32 PM
Well I begun the quest but I doubt I will ever complete it. The first audition with the 3 judges I failed the first time, but I passed the 2nd. Ironically, it is the advertisement bit that gets me, whenever I enter a public cantina, I get the urge to cancel my subscription... to many bad memories from when I was in training and had to be there for the healing xp. Therefore, I just end up logging out and turning off my computer for the rest of the day.
Anyway best of luck on the quest to the rest of you, and I am looking forward to hearing someone else perform the new song at some party sometime in the future.
Even the 30 people for the third round of promotion only took me about 10-15 minutes.
Tarnak_Archvold wrote:
Ironically, it is the advertisement bit that gets me, whenever I enter a public cantina, I get the urge to cancel my subscription... to many bad memories from when I was in training and had to be there for the healing xp. Therefore, I just end up logging out and turning off my computer for the rest of the day.
Echinacea wrote:
I got through it all with Tarot with no problems and no failures. I didn't beg in spatial for listeners, either. Yeah, it took me two days, but so what? I'd rather be comfortable with myself with how I got through the process. I did have a problem getting the guild's buffbot through the first stage performance; the audience only said they wanted to hear Virtuoso, no dislikes, no specific 'flourish requests.'(I really hate that part. I wish they could've come up with descriptions on what the animations look like, rather than just saying "Flourish 7." That's so...anti-immersive.) I played what they wanted to hear...but they still weren't 'satisfied.' So...guess I'm trying again tomorrow. Between me and her and our droids, I could have almost the whole sound.
Oh, and the song sounds like poo on anything but the Traz and Bandfill. /shudder At least on those two it's okay. I was so disappointed on the sound from the Mandoviol. I've always hated the Narlagon, didn't expect to like it on that, but..../gag Same with my beloved Chidinkalu Horn. That one just about made me cry. Techno...Western? /runs screaming (I'm so glad if you like it on the instruments I don't. Just saying what I think. That is what these forums are for...right?)
I got my listens in Coronet Starport, I didn't beg/ask anyone to listen but I did chat to them and greet them as they entered the Startport. In fact I got one of my biggest batch of listeners after in a conversation with someoneI said I wasn't grinding for Jedi and didn't plan on being one! I think it took me maybe 2 hours to get the 30 listeners for the last part of the quest.
I happen to rather like the song on the Mandoviol and the Nalargon, the Traz sounded OK, but was a little soft for my tastes. I agree that the Chidinkalu Horn is probably only useful as part of a band in Western.
On the whole I think this is one of the best songs in the game, although I still rate Waltz in a band as being one of the best sounding the two horns together in it are almost haunting!