Musician Archive
Thread: Several reasons to have a AFK buffer
Message Edited by fett3041 on 09-19-2004 11:12 AM
Banthabutcher wrote:
- Musician Black Book, Dancer Black Book, General Methods to find an ent, ATK channels, the fact that there's usually a master at Theed and Coronet, etc.
- I fail to see how convinience is a valid argument. You can't ent buff anywhere like a doc, and the places you have to go to get buffed usually have ents there anyways. The only exception to that is player cities. Well, recruit an ent. There's bound to be one. Even if you're a PvP guild.
What you're asking is impossible. You want to come to my cantina and doc buff me 24/7?
What if someone found a way to give doc buffs through a macro and suddenly a bunch of AFK doc bots pop up in Coronet? Suddenly no one goes to you for buffs when they can just use a bot. OOPS! There goes all your credibility and business as a doc buffer.
Try looking at the issue from both sides before saying something like this.
Haveing a Buff bot = 24/7 Doc boffs and Ent Buffs. As for the master in theed, umm I been to the Theed Cantina on Raident server on several occasions, and no masters there at all. Just alot of people afk grinding. None will buff. Plain and simple your arguement here is stupid. I'm a Dancer/Musician working to master with both. Once I reach it and get a working macro set up I will be 24/7 buffing in our city cantina while I'm afk.
Tralmek wrote:
Karena-Kurri wrote:There are afk buff bots and I have a second account Buff Ent bot deal with it I pay 15 dollors a month on it and I will do as I please.I pay 15 dollars a month for my character. Should I do whatever I please? AFK macrospamming the starports, finding and using every exploit, camping static spawns? Maybe I should go out and start duping credits. It's good for me, so why shouldn't I?
If you want the answer to my question I can provide it in four words: This is a community.
When someone does anything to harm another member of the community (as AFK macroing does the Entertainers, especially when it comes to buffbots), the entire community is affected. When you have a me-centered attitude instead of a community-centered one, you destroy the gaming experience for everyone around you.
Perhaps I should have tacked a note about not only bringing some knowledge to discussions about buffbots, but also bringing along some morals and logic.
point Boscuia is making is her bot would be running in a player city cantina, no spamming, only buffing those that come in and buffing for free. No charge on it. So all your points are invalid.
AshleTavi wrote:
Haveing a Buff bot = 24/7 Doc boffs and Ent Buffs. As for the master in theed, umm I been to the Theed Cantina on Raident server on several occasions, and no masters there at all. Just alot of people afk grinding. None will buff. Plain and simple your arguement here is stupid. I'm a Dancer/Musician working to master with both. Once I reach it and get a working macro set up I will be 24/7 buffing in our city cantina while I'm afk.
Jenden wrote:It doesn't matter how useful it is to you... its still against the rules. Thats like saying more credits would be useful, so I'm going to use a credit dupe.
So why even have a macro choice? it's not against the rules.
Having a macro that repeats itself makes the game easier to play for some. If you want to take that stuff out then take it all out. Don't stop at just the little stuff, Lets take out the Jedi all together.
AshleTavi wrote:
So why even have a macro choice? it's not against the rules.
Yes, they are against the rules, see section 7 of the TOU that you agree to every time you log in.
Macros are just fine, its never ending recursive macros that are a problem. Yes, they have their benefits, they make things a bit easier, and if people didn't abuse them and make them in to afk macros then they could stay. From what I understand, the removal of the recursive macros will not stop you from writing a lengthy macro that will do center of being or whatever else you want to keep running in combat, you'll just have to hit the button to start it back up every couple of minutes. If thats too much trouble for you need to go play a simpler game.
Boscuia wrote:
I'm a master doc/TKM and have an alt that is close to master Dancer/Musician.
These are both my toons. Having a macro for buffing simplifies my life.
My reasons for it.
1. Time saving for myself and my guild members. We know where she is at any given time, we don't have to go looking for a mind buff from a master dancer/musician. I'm sorry I didn't pay 15$ a month to spend 2-3 hours searching for a Musician/Dancer so that I can get mind buffs. That's a waste of real money, not credits from a game.
2. I didn't do musician/dancer for a source of income. I did it for convinence.
Now unless one of you feel like you can be at my PA City Hall 24/7 and fulfill the shoes of my alt, then please come do it so I can switch professions and do something more interesting with her, maybe grind out Fencer, or Rifleman. If you can't fulfill the shoes she is wearing, then shut-up about the afk bots.
This is my view of it, take it how you like, but take heed, I won't be coming back to this topic I started to review comments made.
Loser.
Flamer.
Troll.
Go away.
Nothing like making smart aleck remarks and then fading into the shadows of cowardice.
The expectation of having access to any player 24/7 is both ludricrous and unreasonable. No worries, your precious macrobot will be gone when the Devs correct their mistake. And, rest assured, my dear troll - you will never receive a buff from my Entertainer on Radiant. The rest of you Entertainers, when you see this shmo on Radiant, /denyservice, and throw flaming Bantha doo at him/her.
These have to be the lamest and most tired arguments for playing Star Wars Galaxies completely AFK and macro'd.
Worst. Reasons. Ever.
And they're getting very old, very fast.
AshleTavi wrote:
Tralmek wrote:
Karena-Kurri wrote:There are afk buff bots and I have a second account Buff Ent bot deal with it I pay 15 dollors a month on it and I will do as I please.I pay 15 dollars a month for my character. Should I do whatever I please? AFK macrospamming the starports, finding and using every exploit, camping static spawns? Maybe I should go out and start duping credits. It's good for me, so why shouldn't I?
If you want the answer to my question I can provide it in four words: This is a community.
When someone does anything to harm another member of the community (as AFK macroing does the Entertainers, especially when it comes to buffbots), the entire community is affected. When you have a me-centered attitude instead of a community-centered one, you destroy the gaming experience for everyone around you.
Perhaps I should have tacked a note about not only bringing some knowledge to discussions about buffbots, but also bringing along some morals and logic.
point Boscuia is making is her bot would be running in a player city cantina, no spamming, only buffing those that come in and buffing for free. No charge on it. So all your points are invalid.
You fail to understand that this is precisely the problem with buffbots.
Because there is a buffbot in a player city cantina or a guild hall, those players are not getting buffs from live players. The guild isn't attempting to recruit entertainers, and the players who use the buffbot consider the live entertainers as useless wastes of bandwidth.
Park a buffbot in a camp in the NW corner of Dathomir and it's still damaging to players that actually want to play as an entertainer.
As I said over in the ent forums it isn't just entertainers, AFK play is damaging the game in tons of places. Camped spawn spots, camped loot spots, and much more. A game is designed for known demographic shifts and populations. Having people AFK play destroys those usage patterns along with everything else.
As for getting rid of the Jedi all together if recursive macros is required to get jedi then by all means strip the stupid class out. The number of Jedi is so immersion and RP breaking its destroying the game for a lot of people regardless of all the AFK play.
I used to buff for hours on end for a few guilds on my home server..whoever was being raided..I would be there in the cloner, in the bottom of their base or at the cantina in the nearest friendly town if they were raiding someone else. But then they started getting buffbots and now I'm not asked to join them anymore. I won't tell them how my feelings are hurt by this. I think my feelings are probably pretty meaningless to them, in comparison to their convenience.
Kraftomatic wrote:
Not flaming anyone here, but devils advocate...as a live entertainer, would you take the place of a guild's buffbot and perform live fora four hour period during base defense and PvP for free?
