Musician Archive
Thread: Recursive macros are being removed!
MadLeprechaun wrote:
well, then i stand corrected in the fact you weren't attacked....but i still think you deserve what you got, especially the part about you being a hypocrite if the post above is true. I will not say i never resort to personal attacks because sometimes people piss me off so much i can't help it, and i admit it. You on the other hand will say that you never attack personally and that you condemn such attacks and then go out and commit that same crime yourself....once again im am assuming that tralmek's post is true
Dont assume to much. When I said I was attacked, I provided proof. This person randomly stated I was doing the same .... oh wait mabeyit could have been someone else ....without having any proof whatsoever.
I dont mind if you disagree with me whatsoever. You can argue your belief, I can argue mine, and who knows, something good may come of it. I dont think any person is stupid just because they have a passion for the way they play, and I dont expected to be treated like some "stupid griefer mugger" or whatever either.
JediTed225 wrote:
How do recursive macros hurting us? I'm not an afker and i still use recursive macros when i am putting on a big show or something. I was sort of a semi afker in the past, but i still enjoyed the profession and meeting new people. The only reason i played afk is cause it got at bit boring sitting there and playing the same songs over and over. What needs to be done is to add something that makes the profession fun enough that people won't want to afk. Like extensive gig missions like the quest performances.
Is this change really gonna go through? I agree that these AFKers must be abolished from the galaxy but yer gonna need ta do something more than nerfing recursive macros to do it.
Unfortunately for those of us who use recursive macros to actually play the game, they're the common denominator in nearly all unattended gameplay. The Devs figure it will be the easiest change, with the widest area of effect, and the minimal programming involved.
Many of us do agree that we need some (more) incentive to remain ATK. Our hopes were raised when the Hutt Casino was announced. But like most things that would help the game rather than complicate it, it's been pushed back in favor of Jedi, JTL, JTL fixes, the Combat Revamp, CR fixes, and whatever else they may feel would be more entertaining than the Entertainer profession.
This is all to true for you guys. I cannot understand why they couldnt just spare one body to get your profession fun again. It really wouldnt take too much to at least put in some new songs and dances every month or so. The entertainment professions have never been any where near as dynamically updated as anything else.
fett3041 wrote:
Unfortunately for those of us who use recursive macros to actually play the game, they're the common denominator in nearly all unattended gameplay. The Devs figure it will be the easiest change, with the widest area of effect, and the minimal programming involved.
Many of us do agree that we need some (more) incentive to remain ATK. Our hopes were raised when the Hutt Casino was announced. But like most things that would help the game rather than complicate it, it's been pushed back in favor of Jedi, JTL, JTL fixes, the Combat Revamp, CR fixes, and whatever else they may feel would be more entertaining than the Entertainer profession.
akothas wrote:
No I did not flame the Correspondent. Show me a place where I have called people names and made personal attacks aganist anyone.He had given a basic shallow answer as to what could be done, and I stated something to the fact that we should report everysquad leader so they can get banned and get the boards flaming hot with the issue. Squad leader professions has some VERY serious problems to the point people are getting banned for just playing them.
As far as the "shut up" thing goes, that was not me, and I cannot control what other people type. Truthfully I dont even know what you are talking about, I must have missed that post.
When I decided to argue with someone or point out their mistakes, I am sure to do my research a little bit before I place any blame on anyone or tell them they are wrong. When I challenge someone else beliefs I do it in a style that is blunt and straightfoward, but not flaming with hatred. I challenge you to find one post where I was name calling flaming. (other than teasing/joking)
I clearly left open the option that it could be Baciacca who flamed the Correspondent, and would have happily provided a clicky to thethread I was referring to. However, it's apparently (thankfully) been deleted. I know I reported it, and given how uncalled for the attacks were, I doubt I'm the only one.
You were involved in that thread as well. You and Baciacca seem to show upto agree with one another quite often, and this was no exception after DiLune brought up the macro fix.
akothas wrote:
I cannot understand why they couldnt just spare one body to get your profession fun again. It really wouldnt take too much to at least put in some new songs and dances every month or so. The entertainment professions have never been any where near as dynamically updated as anything else.
NewJedi wrote:
AFK'ers degrade the game experience of the rest of us. They devalue my profession. They make it more convenient for someone to get their heal or a buff from a bot than from me. They fill up a room with garbage spam that can't always be filtered out. That's what's wrong with AFKers.
how is it more convenient for someone to get a buff from them than you? is an afk person easier to watch, faster to buff? noooo... if you want people to watch/listen to you instead, be more entertaining than the bot ...
Cerene wrote:
NewJedi wrote:AFK'ers degrade the game experience of the rest of us. They devalue my profession. They make it more convenient for someone to get their heal or a buff from a bot than from me. They fill up a room with garbage spam that can't always be filtered out. That's what's wrong with AFKers.
how is it more convenient for someone to get a buff from them than you? is an afk person easier to watch, faster to buff? noooo... if you want people to watch/listen to you instead, be more entertaining than the bot ...
No, but it is free, and the bot is always there unlike a human, who has to do things like eat, sleep, carry on a life, etc. so they don't have to worry about trying to find someone. Let me relate a story to you: A friend, a guildmate even, was going on a hunt with me. I, a master musician, offered to buff him when we met up for free. He, however, bypassed my offer and several other live players to go to his favorite buffbot. Why? Because he knew she'd always be there, and was "just used to using her". Now, if a guildmate would turn down my offer for free services when he knew exactly where I was and when I was going to be there, do you really think we have a chance at winning paying customers away from buffbots?
bcre8iv wrote:
Cerene wrote:
NewJedi wrote:
AFK'ers degrade the game experience of the rest of us. They devalue my profession. They make it more convenient for someone to get their heal or a buff from a bot than from me. They fill up a room with garbage spam that can't always be filtered out. That's what's wrong with AFKers.
how is it more convenient for someone to get a buff from them than you? is an afk person easier to watch, faster to buff? noooo... if you want people to watch/listen to you instead, be more entertaining than the bot ...
No, but it is free, and the bot is always there unlike a human, who has to do things like eat, sleep, carry on a life, etc. so they don't have to worry about trying to find someone. Let me relate a story to you: A friend, a guildmate even, was going on a hunt with me. I, a master musician, offered to buff him when we met up for free. He, however, bypassed my offer and several other live players to go to his favorite buffbot. Why? Because he knew she'd always be there, and was "just used to using her". Now, if a guildmate would turn down my offer for free services when he knew exactly where I was and when I was going to be there, do you really think we have a chance at winning paying customers away from buffbots?
Bravo, 5 stars.
The situation is out of hand. The Devs agree. Players of SWG were NEVER meant to EVER be NPC's. Case closed. It's a "service" that should never have been allowed in the game. A LOT of players don't care about Entertainment. They care about free, free, free and on-demand services at the moment they want them. This game's economy is too screwed up for people to NOT get everything they can for free. NO ONE can compete with free.
Charge $2 for a pack of gum.
Put the same gum next to it, but mark it as FREE.
Guess what - some folks won't pay attention and will pay $2. But the FREE gum will be gone almost instantly. Everybody wants free stuff. Everybody.
Message Edited by Cerene on 01-06-2005 07:20 AM
