Merchant Archive
Thread: So, how's the price war meta game going on your server?
Beercules wrote:
Bhasayate wrote:
Me too! I've sold nothing the past 5 days or so, at least. The first day, I sold more than usual, but after then, it trickled into nothing.
I think i'm gonna drop merchant and chef. I sell absolulety NOTHING now. I used to have a nitch carved out.
that's the spirit!in the face of obstacles or adversity, give up!
i hope you really do
rather than post that you are going to quit, over and over and over and over....
I really like running a shop, so I don't really want to quit, if I think about it. I've had a shop for two years. I enjoy it.
Plus, sales have started to go up again, so it's cool. Maybe it was just a bad week?
But yeah, it's a bit frustrating at times.
And you, sir, are a mean jerk. I've not posted over and over and over like you say. It's not nice to accuse me of giving up in the face of obstacles. It's not that, it's just how much time and money and effort do I feel like pissing down the drain if things don't get better? We all have to face tough choices about our RL and game professions, sometimes. Is it more trouble that it's worth? That's the question. We all know the difference between quiting and getting out before you take a huge loss, of time, money, resources, or whatnot. Seriously, you need to be less accusatory and not jump to baseless conclusions.
Since the Bazaar changes my sales have dropped probably 90% on low-mid range
weapons and with the introduction of ADKs its hitting my high end sales
of weapons also.
I now seeing most weapons priced at 2000 credits. heh i cant even buy the
resources to support that and tbh i dont want to make crates and crates of
weapons to sell for next to nothing.
I really dislike these changes. They seem to favour the large business model
where you have in house resource sellers selling resources very cheap so
the buyer an sell his stock at rock bottom prices.
Its not just Weapon sales that have been for me hit its Swoop bikes and Spices
also.
After 1.5 years of Weaponsmithing/Artisan and Merchant it may be time to close my doors.
To give you an example of how these changes have effected my sales
about 1 month ago i was making about 100 sales a day ( on a good day )
maybe 30-40 on a bad day. Since the changes i selling maybe 15 on a good
day with perhaps 4 or nothing on a bad heh what a joke.
Flintlok Kask
Terror Weapons Corp
Dantooine ( Chimera )
Crimsonsplat wrote:
I'm wondering if we should be compiling these responses by type of crafting. For that matter, I'm wondering if somepeople favoring the new systemare reading the negative reviews here and sneaking over to buy my stuff in order to get positive posts and eliminate *any* chance the devs will change the system. (Yes, I am parinoid, thank you. Now turn off the camera. I know you're watching me.)
Last week, nothing. This week, a million thursday night, and about a quarter million or better, every day since. For me, a small-time architect, that's nearly bonkers. But since I stock many big items, individual sales have a huge impact on my bottom line.
A DE friend says his C-net droid vendor has bombed lately.
I see opportunities to reach customers. The bottom line is my bottom line's survival, but so far, I'm hating this idea much less than I expected, and I'm surprised to be making high-costsales when I am clearly NOT the lowest priced vendor.
Indene wrote:
Maybe if I sold only 100k lots and only at 5cpu the restocking might be tolerable.
I decided a long time ago that selling in max size stacks (100K generally) was the onlky way to go. I probably sell through 25% of my inventory in any given 30 days, so I have a lot to restock. I couldn't do it if I stocked in smaller stacks.
I do have a sign up to mail me if someone wants a smaller stack. I am happy to do this, but honestly, only 1 or 2 people do this in any given month.
Message Edited by Smart_Darwin on 04-14-2005 11:12 AM
freedomwarrior wrote:
Your location must have sucked then. Cause I was doing good sales prior to the patch and my prices were within reason or slightly lower than others on my server. Its more about word of mouth than anything and trust me, word of mouth does happen. I still have the same customers so im not hurting, but this patch was so ill conceived its not funny. Its like the devs all got drunk one night and thru darts to see how this patch would be instituted. Ive seen better lemons from chrysler than this crap publish.
IceTigger wrote:
The price war is on, and frankly I am happy. Prior to the bazaar change, I would only get a few sales a month. In just that past few days I have had over 50 sales. I am finally being reward for having some of the best prices on the server and the quality is only slightly behind or equal to the best on the server.
Yes, I agree the Advertising branch is devalued by the change. However, I would argue that the branch had very little value before. Global advertising and merchant barking has never brought me in any new customers. I rarely used it when shopping as most shops listed where either under stocked or overpriced. The good shops where never listed.
I have to concure on that. I'm also on chilastra and I havn't seen any active price wars, point in fact I havea weapon vendor with good, although unsliced, weapons on it for 500cr,. each...and they don't sell, my reasoning behind those prices is that I recently quit Weaponsmith after 9 months and wanted to get rid of my current stock to get rid of some vendors for the extra SP's. I actualy just ended up deleting a vendor with 400+ 500cr. weapons because they just wouldn't sell [mostly 147max VK's]. My resource sales have gone up quite a bit...but thats because I'm not a "Speculator" I always sell my freshly harved resources from 1-2 cpu and let some one alse buy me out and speculate on them.
If I were still an active Weaponsmith I can't see that my prices would have fallen all that much, as I had some of the best weapons on the server and people will always pay a bit more for the best, although Shipwright was hurting before the vendor change so it could be hurting alot more now. I fyou mainly deal in chassies I'd say your sales will be slow, try selling the disposables like missles for a fair price and you'll probably do better.
I can see with the current CU on TC that alot of crafters are simply going to quit, and then with a lack of crafters, prices will rise due to lack of supply. Sorry but the "Get a body guard" statement from the Dev's was simply not to bright.
ofim wrote:
I have to concure on that. I'm also on chilastra and I havn't seen any active price wars, point in fact I havea weapon vendor with good, although unsliced, weapons on it for 500cr,. each...and they don't sell, my reasoning behind those prices is that I recently quit Weaponsmith after 9 months and wanted to get rid of my current stock to get rid of some vendors for the extra SP's. I actualy just ended up deleting a vendor with 400+ 500cr. weapons because they just wouldn't sell [mostly 147max VK's]. My resource sales have gone up quite a bit...but thats because I'm not a "Speculator" I always sell my freshly harved resources from 1-2 cpu and let some one alse buy me out and speculate on them.
If I were still an active Weaponsmith I can't see that my prices would have fallen all that much, as I had some of the best weapons on the server and people will always pay a bit more for the best, although Shipwright was hurting before the vendor change so it could be hurting alot more now. I fyou mainly deal in chassies I'd say your sales will be slow, try selling the disposables like missles for a fair price and you'll probably do better.
I can see with the current CU on TC that alot of crafters are simply going to quit, and then with a lack of crafters, prices will rise due to lack of supply. Sorry but the "Get a body guard" statement from the Dev's was simply not to bright.
"Helios_SOE If you wish to gather resources in dangerous areas, you should either get a PSG or you could also hire some other players to protect you in the wilds. "
From the Stratics chat on 4/14.
"If you wish to gather resources at all you should group with a level 80 combat player, even if you leave said toon sitting AFK in a cantina, to gain a 20 times increase in survivability in the wilds."
EnigmaBSc
I don't like this development one bit because I've always felt that anything that requires you to take advantage of a game mechanic like this in order to accomplish something represents bad design.
Message Edited by Elyssa on 04-19-2005 09:47 AM
EnigmaBSc wrote:
Although with the way things stand on TC at the moment that should be:
"If you wish to gather resources at all you should group with a level 80 combat player, even if you leave said toon sitting AFK in a cantina, to gain a 20 times increase in survivability in the wilds."
EnigmaBSc
This will be nerfed eventually. Count on it. After all, it would screw crafters.