Merchant Archive
Thread: Before you cast the first stone...
JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:30 pm
#27
Well, fixing them in garages does the same thing. You're not getting that money. I've never seen anyone ride a vehicle to DEATH. Usually they just store it until they've got the funds to fix it. So really, it didn't take that much, if any money out of anyone's pocket, where as poached vendors take money out of merchant's pockets because those are items we could be selling for crafters for a commission. But I'm not getting into this discussion with you guys anymore. It's still broken. It's going to change. End of story.
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:32 pm
#28
I've never actually seen someone poach a vendor. It must not happen, then. That's good to get straightened out.
JTGAlpha wrote:
Well, fixing them in garages does the same thing. You're not getting that money. I've never seen anyone ride a vehicle to DEATH.
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:36 pm
#30
JTGAlpha wrote:
Well, I have.
But you just said you hadn't!
Which personality am I talking to now, Cybil?
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:37 pm
#31
P.S.: They fixed the vehicle repair exploit... but only after putting PC garages in.
If you don't think that's relevant, look through some of the other threads.
JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:39 pm
#32
Try and keep up, Corky.
I HAVE seen people who DO own vendors without the skills. They know it ain't right. And you HAVE seen them too. They come in here allllll the time asking if they're going to lose their vendors. So. Yes I have. And so have you.
What I haven't seen is someone ride their bike to death right underneath them. They're usually smart enough to put it away until they got the creds to fix it.
Clear enough for ya? Or do I need to type it backwards so your dyslexia can catch up?
JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:40 pm
#33
PS. It's broke. They're fixing it...
wait for it....
End of story.
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:46 pm
#34
JTGAlpha wrote:
Try and keep up, Corky.
I HAVE seen people who DO own vendors without the skills. They know it ain't right. And you HAVE seen them too. They come in here allllll the time asking if they're going to lose their vendors. So. Yes I have. And so have you.
What I haven't seen is someone ride their bike to death right underneath them. They're usually smart enough to put it away until they got the creds to fix it.
Actually, there isn't any way for me to examine another player's skill tree, so no, I can't say that I've seen it.
I have, however, seen disabled vehicles, so I know that disabled vehicles exist. Whether the bike was "ridden to death" or disabled by other means (e.g. a rancor eating it) didn't matter WRT the vehicle fix exploit.
An exploit is an exploit. End of story. And you're all going to rot in hell for taking food from the mouths of starving master artisans.
*throws Nemoidian eggs*
JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:49 pm
#35
Well there IS a way to know they have poached vendors when they come in to the forum and go,
"Uhh, I dropped all my merchant skills and I'm still using my vendors. Are they gonna disappear?"
So yeah. Ya seen it.
As for the disabled bikes, yeah, I seen those too. Didn't know the bug applied to disabled vehicles. Goes to show how much I "exploited" it doesn't it?
And it doesn't matter. Because at the end of the day, you can be just as pissy as you want about this, and I can get just as pissy back, but it still boils down to...
It's broken. They're changing it. End of story.
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:55 pm
#36
JTGAlpha wrote:
Well there IS a way to know they have poached vendors when they come in to the forum and go,
"Uhh, I dropped all my merchant skills and I'm still using my vendors. Are they gonna disappear?"
So yeah. Ya seen it.
As for the disabled bikes, yeah, I seen those too. Didn't know the bug applied to disabled vehicles. Goes to show how much I "exploited" it doesn't it?
The people who come into the forum wouldn't ask the question if they knew it was an exploit.
And you too arepleading innocence of your exploiting ways by way of ignorance.
Well, SOE may excuse you... but Ido not! Get on your knees and beg forgiveness, lest you be smate with my righteous wrath in Balki's name!
JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:59 pm
#37
No, they're not asking if it's OKAY for them to do it, they're asking if they'll be punished, meaning they already BELIEVE that it might not be an okay thing so sorry.
And I'm not in the "You're an exploiter, DIE!" camp. So point the Ire cannon elsewhere binky. I am in the "it's wrong get over it." camp however. Just because it's useful doesn't make it good for the game, or right.
JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:00 pm
#38
Whoops! Forgot!
It's broken.
They're changing it.
Get over it.
Got it yet?
DragonScout
Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:54 pm
#39
lol. You keep saying get over it, they are fixing it, blah blah as your argument, yet you keep posting. Perhaps you should take your own advice?
Oh, and by the way, do you give maintenance reduction to your friends? If so, you are as much an exploiter as vendor poachers are in my opinion (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, because I think it is more a problem with the way they set up the profession than any actual bad on the players part). I see no where that it states that this is an ability that is to be shared. It is for structures owned by the merchant.
Does it make sense that it works the way it does? yes, in a way. But, that is not avoiding the issue that you are then giving people who are not merchants, who do not have skill points invested, the ability of a merchant. Which is the problem with vendor poaching. And some people could argue -- and do -- that vendor poaching makes sense and isn't an exploit. It is all our perception. But you are right, they have said they are fixing poached vendors. We will just have to wait a year or two for it to actually happen.
Oh, and by the way, do you give maintenance reduction to your friends? If so, you are as much an exploiter as vendor poachers are in my opinion (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, because I think it is more a problem with the way they set up the profession than any actual bad on the players part). I see no where that it states that this is an ability that is to be shared. It is for structures owned by the merchant.
Does it make sense that it works the way it does? yes, in a way. But, that is not avoiding the issue that you are then giving people who are not merchants, who do not have skill points invested, the ability of a merchant. Which is the problem with vendor poaching. And some people could argue -- and do -- that vendor poaching makes sense and isn't an exploit. It is all our perception. But you are right, they have said they are fixing poached vendors. We will just have to wait a year or two for it to actually happen.