Merchant Archive
Thread: Restocking from STOCKROOM one item at a time EVERY 30days is LAME, THOUGHTLESS, and PATHETIC!
Zabava
Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:23 pm
#14
Just imagine: I have 9 vendors and 3 of them selling pre-sliced armor. Every peace of armor has diff. price, based on slice %, so I have to check every bracer's price ......it's a pain really and it takes A LOT of my time. I'd better use this time to hand- craft some custom armor .
RubyBlu
Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:18 pm
#15
Halthron wrote:
Personally, I like the 30 day move to stock room. If I'm not paying attention, it lets me know when something costs too much. It's easy to forget I have 5 "somethings" on the vendor when there are 100 item on that one. If you have problems with stuff falling off, perhaps you need to revisit your pricing or marketing strategy.
But for someone like me, a tailor, the 'bad pricing' doesn't really apply. I have to keep at least a thousand items stocked at any given time, to make sure there's something for everyone. Though no one bought this purple skirt this month, someone may come in tomorrow and love it.
On my husband's loot vendor I run, however, I will sometimes slash prices when restocking items.
Just as there are many different playing styles, there are many different merchant styles.
Puertoriqueno
Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:23 pm
#16
Yes, either a maintenance cap, or better yet a restock or EXTEND button is preferred.
Using an extension button would show you are there and would avoid the whole relisting problem. You highlight items, hit extend, and the date is extended another 30 days from the day you hit the button....just like you listed it fresh. This way you could go in, highlight a complete group (100 items) and hit a single button to move the date back. 600 items would take you no more than maybe 2 min to extend in this fashion.
I think an extend button would be easier to code than a mass relist button. Just my two cents.
Halthron
Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:54 pm
#17
RubyBlu wrote:But for someone like me, a tailor, the 'bad pricing' doesn't really apply. I have to keep at least a thousand items stocked at any given time, to make sure there's something for everyone. Though no one bought this purple skirt this month, someone may come in tomorrow and love it.On my husband's loot vendor I run, however, I will sometimes slash prices when restocking items.Just as there are many different playing styles, there are many different merchant styles.
Yeah, I neglected tailor in that. They have so many styles in so many colors that they are the exception in my opinion. Someone like a chef though should have no excuse, IMO. "Negative" indeed. BEs have a number of fast moving items and a number of slow moving ones. I collect the slower moving ones in packs in storage and just leave a few out, replacing as I need to. Our pets are the most highly customizable thing in the game and creature handler buyers are as picky as someone who is choosing clothing can be. This often leads to a lot of stock that sits until someone buys it. That's where the marketing aspect comes in. If I'm not marketing effectively, it sits longer.
UrbannJedi
Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:46 pm
#18
Halthron wrote Someone like a chef though should have no excuse, IMO. "Negative" indeed.
You dont know my buisness .. but just for the record .. I am an Uber crafter .. One of if not THE most Populat and OLDEST chef on my server .. I have been 12point since Day one of the 12point tapes. I dont SERIOUSLY DO NOT stress sales .. and the topic of this discussion is not Sales .. its about a re-list button on the Vendors.
Apart from the Uber Chef that I am .. I also have secondary support Crafting Skills that allow me to stock my mall with MAster Smuggler Tools .. AUK's ... WUK's etc ... Full POWERUP vendor .. Smuggler SPices .. etc...
Unlike AVERAGE crafts ... Mine are not for the average peasant. Most if not all of my crafts are are 100% UBER. Therfore they are treated as Uber and Rare. Those Warriors and JEDI that Settle for no less than the BEST on the ENTIRE server should have access to those same UBER products when they need it ... at my shop the Uber goods are Stalked 24/7.
I Make full Runs when I craft .. none of that nikle and dime junk here ...
Thus I made this discussion forum about Vendor REFILL- Button ..not sales .... 100+ crates of UBER vercupti for example takes alot longer than 30days to sell ... Not because of my buisness ethics.. but because of its high prices due to high demand .. there fore only select Consumers head to my shop.
and thats how I like it.
I hope we can Cease the chat about Advertising and Prices and Buisness Ethics and Strategies ... the topic here is Vendor ReStalk button.
/respect.
Halthron
Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:05 pm
#19
I still maintain that if you didn't stock more than a 30 day supply then you wouldn't have stuff fall off. 10 on the vendor, or whatever values sell in 2-3 weeks,the restin a pack for later stocking. A single pack is easier to deal with than 30 items are. But I don't have an Uber Ego so I'm sure there's some Uber reason for listing pages and pages and pages of the same items on the vendor then dealing with them when they drop off.
Zabava
Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:36 am
#20
Our customers likes fully stocked vendors, and some of them want something special, hand -made,rare. Some items can sit on vendors much more than 30 days, but one day someone buy it and will be happy. That's how long -term, well established business works.
Halthron
Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:25 am
#21
I totally agree and some items falling off after 30 days are definately a side effect of that. But there's a difference between some and hundreds.
Norimusa
Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:30 pm
#22
Regardless of the different perspectives and reasons; whether agreed or disagreed upon, a Re-STOCK button is needed in this game, period.
I do like the variant on 30 day Maint Cap and the Extend-STOCK button ideas. Very nice ones. But to avoid any hassles with vendors keeping stock forever, a Re-STOCK button is really the best way to go. It allows for hands-on Merchants to either quickly relist everything, or pick and choose what to quickly relist and then change pricing on the items they need to change pricing for.
But I do believe that something needs to be done about it and not ignored . . . as the trend tends to be.
UrbannJedi
Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:19 pm
#23
Halthron wrote:
I totally agree and some items falling off after 30 days are definately a side effect of that. But there's a difference between some and hundreds.
Ahh my Merchant friend ... I see our dilema ... Ok my bad ill rephrase my statement ... I also have my "Head Stash Vendor" that holds my ENTIRE Resource Colectionof Resources... and that is bout 200 items hehe ... but still the other 400 Items are Crates of Food .. considering I stalk maybe 50-60 Different types of Food .. and not all can be sold as full crates of 25 .. so I break off a few in stacks of 10 and 15 packs .. for the PvP'rs that just come by stalk up before a Raid.
I just wanna be clear so you dont think ima Merchant NOOB either hehe. 
/respect.
Halthron
Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:20 pm
#24
UrbannJedi wrote:
Ahh my Merchant friend ... I see our dilema ... Ok my bad ill rephrase my statement ... I also have my "Head Stash Vendor" that holds my ENTIRE Resource Colectionof Resources... and that is bout 200 items hehe ... but still the other 400 Items are Crates of Food .. considering I stalk maybe 50-60 Different types of Food .. and not all can be sold as full crates of 25 .. so I break off a few in stacks of 10 and 15 packs .. for the PvP'rs that just come by stalk up before a Raid.
I just wanna be clear so you dont think ima Merchant NOOB either hehe.
/respect.
Gotcha, was just a difference in points of view
Overall, I'm really against extending the length of time an item stays on the vendor but support the idea of a restock button. The key, IMO, is to keep the merchant involved ensuring that vendors don't stay up with static merchandise. The last thing this game needs is more advertised vendors that have a single placeholder item that the merchant restsocks once a month.
Ewach
Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:00 pm
#25
Halthron wrote:
I still maintain that if you didn't stock more than a 30 day supply then you wouldn't have stuff fall off. 10 on the vendor, or whatever values sell in 2-3 weeks,the restin a pack for later stocking. A single pack is easier to deal with than 30 items are. But I don't have an Uber Ego so I'm sure there's some Uber reason for listing pages and pages and pages of the same items on the vendor then dealing with them when they drop off.
So many presume to think that what works for them will work for others.
I have several professions and sell a variety of items:
Master Artisan (selling weapon powerups, vehicles and repair tools)
Master Shipwright (selling components, RE'd components, missile packs & CM packs)
Architect (selling furniture - I only retained the Furniture 4 column)
I will sometimes have a single customer purchase 10 to 15 crates of powerups in a single visit. Therefore I must maintain a large inventory (quantity) and a wide selection (variety) of weapon powerups.
Reverse engineered ship components go on the vendor for sale. Again a wide variety (several different categories of parts) and levels means alot of components.
It's nothing about being "Uber" (to use your term) its about running MY business the way I WANT TO.
Halthron
Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:23 am
#26
I used "uber" because it was used in a reply to one of my posts, you obviously missed the sarcasm it was used with. If you want to stock a lot then do so, no one is stopping you but realize that stocking everything you can in the hopes that you will "sometimes have a single customer purchase 10 to 15 crates of powerups in a single visit" means you have to deal with lots of crates. If you don't want to restock those all the time, try offering single crates, and backpacks of 5 and 10. A pack of 10 is a lot easier to restock than 10 individuals are.