Merchant Archive
Thread: Well, this is it. The Search goes live tonight.
I would be happy if they left out the price searchingfield and putprice back in details, and left in the remote buying option. I think the devs are only going to do one or the other, because they want to make both sides happy (it didn't work very well though). Or, if the devs ever make merchant a no-point proffesion, they should give merchants free skillpoints equal to the amount they used for merchant. The skillpoints could be used straightaway and you could use them to get any box in any profession, without grinding it (as long as you have the prerequisites).
Message Edited by Michaell on 03-24-2005 11:06 AM
Phaelyn wrote:
Elioi wrote:
Let me get this straight...are you suggesting that we attempt to sabotage the system by clogging it with items (without the intent to seriously sell them)intentionaly?
Call me crazy but I'd like to see how this works on live without others intentionally sabotaging the effort. Especially if they are the correspondent for my profession.
Does this really call for taking everyone else's ball and going home?
Not at all. Our Correspondent is NOT suggesting that we try to dog the system on purpose - Rather, the suggestion is that we all USE the system as it was intended. Not only list one vendor with high prices, and leave the rest OFF the system with the good prices, which to me WOULD be trying to defeat the system.
A lot of us said that the system on a Live server would be cumbersome. We were told not to worry. So, let's add in ALL our vendors to the system, and let's see who was right.. That's the basic meaning.
"I spent 4 hrs driving around looking for something but look what I found on this one vendor"
change into
Ani_cul wrote:
Oh and I can't wait to hear
"I spent 4 hrs driving around looking for something but look what I found on this one vendor"
change into
"I spent all day standing here and I think I forgot what I was even looking for"
Poking vendors allowed for aggrevation yes,when you hit those advertised empty vendors,but it lead way to some great finds.
Peeking at the bazaar..well all I see is someone banging their head against the keyboards for awhile to be honest.
that might just happen
Ani_cul wrote:Oh and I can't wait to hear
"I spent 4 hrs driving around looking for something but look what I found on this one vendor"
change into"I spent all day standing here and I think I forgot what I was even looking for"Poking vendors allowed for aggrevation yes,when you hit those advertised empty vendors, but it lead way to some great finds.Peeking at the bazaar..well all I see is someone banging their head against the keyboards for awhile to be honest.
When I made the great finds, it was always when I was just plain shopping. I do this quite often, when solo. It was either this, or when I go to pick something up, I wander around checking out vendors. If I'm looking for something specific, and I don't know where to look, I don't stop to look around. This new system still has that, since we have to go out to the stores to actually pick anything up.
Now, speaking as a merchant, I do *not* like the fact that we don't need any Advertising skill to list our vendors. Nor do I like the inadequate categories. However, as both a shopper and a merchant, I'd rather have this system than none at all, to both avoid the 5-hour useless searches, and to get my vendors (and those like mine, outside the 1.5k circle sprawl around Coronet and Theed) noticed.
Elyssa wrote:A few people will buy things from the first couple of pages, but eventually the majority of the playerbase won't even bother because the best deals will be buried down on page 28 and it's just too much trouble to find them.
I think your point about this is very valid. What is ironic about it is that vendors list oldest created/looted stuff first. So it's the new, hopefully improved products that merchants offer that will be listed down on page 28.
Ah well...we get rid of the old stock I guess.
Message Edited by Feisen on 03-24-2005 09:19 AM
Exactly.
Phaelyn wrote:
A lot of us said that the system on a Live server would be cumbersome. We were told not to worry. So, let's add in ALL our vendors to the system, and let's see who was right.. That's the basic meaning.
I am not suggesting for a moment that you attempt to clog the system with bogus items.
I am saying that I plan on having everything Iwould normally offer for sale legitimately (not my storage vendor) listed on the global search page. All 3000+ items worth of it.
To hold back from listing the items would put me at a competitive disadvantage so doing so would be a bad business decision.
Elioi wrote:
Let me get this straight...are you suggesting that we attempt to sabotage the system by clogging it with items (without the intent to seriously sell them)intentionaly?
Call me crazy but I'd like to see how this works on live without others intentionally sabotaging the effort. Especially if they are the correspondent for my profession.
Does this really call for taking everyone else's ball and going home?
I agree. First,I don't understand why someone who sells items for a reasonable price doesn't want potential buyers to be able to easily and quickly compare their prices and quality to those of their competitors. The ones who will be hurt the most are those that over-price their goods. Second, to purposefully try to make it more difficult for those who want to buy and sell goods globally sucks, especially for a correspondent. I have a pure crafter and a pure fighter, and I expect that both will greatly benefit with the new system.
Once all players get to try out the new system and make comments, we will, hopefully, see some tweaks to make the system better. Personnally I would prefer that a certain merchant skill level be required to list items globally, and I will probably have more suggestions once we start using the new system a bit.
In the mean time, I expect my crafter's sales to increase significantly, and I know it will be far easier for both my toons to find the items they want to buy.
I may have misunderstood what you and the Correspondent are suggesting. If so, my apologies. I would hate to see people intentionally trying to make things difficult for other players.
Phaelyn wrote:
Elioi wrote:
Let me get this straight...are you suggesting that we attempt to sabotage the system by clogging it with items (without the intent to seriously sell them)intentionaly?
Call me crazy but I'd like to see how this works on live without others intentionally sabotaging the effort. Especially if they are the correspondent for my profession.
Does this really call for taking everyone else's ball and going home?
Not at all. Our Correspondent is NOT suggesting that we try to dog the system on purpose - Rather, the suggestion is that we all USE the system as it was intended. Not only list one vendor with high prices, and leave the rest OFF the system with the good prices, which to me WOULD be trying to defeat the system.
A lot of us said that the system on a Live server would be cumbersome. We were told not to worry. So, let's add in ALL our vendors to the system, and let's see who was right.. That's the basic meaning.
Message Edited by Anarrion on 03-24-2005 10:43 AM
Message Edited by Akkori on 03-24-2005 12:45 PM