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Thread: Removing full, maintenance paid abandoned vendors has to end!

Elyssa
Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:29 pm
#118

Maybe a dingo ate your vendor.



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DocSavag
Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:29 pm
#119



Elyssa wrote:
Maybe a dingo ate your vendor.





You guys are in a silly mood tonight



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LadyGrey
Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:41 pm
#120

Uh, hey, guys?!?! Could someone throw me a rope? I just fell into this hole that was under my blanket!!!


** still holding sharp sword, just in case **




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LadyGrey

Don't let the negative AFKophobes get you down. Play the game however you want.

Is the beta testing almost over for this game?
BaronRonin
Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:25 pm
#121

>>Everyone griping about losing storage vendors, you all need to shut up....<<

>>>that is just rude and unnecessary. losing vendors is a bad problem, and people need to speak up, not shut up, you troll.<<<


If you actually read my post, it doesnt say losing vendors....it said losing STORAGE vendors...the ones that caused the remaking of merchant in the first place..people using vendors as storage after dropping the skills....having 20 full backpacks for 99999999 in a vendor is a workaround, not a viable skill use....

Read before responding
DingoBoi
Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:53 pm
#122






DocSavag wrote:





Elyssa wrote:

Maybe a dingo ate your vendor.







You guys are in a silly mood tonight





I have a sense of humor. Granted it may be warped and misunderstood at times..


/keeps digging a tunnel towards the lake in hopes of making a bidet for the lady!



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LadyGrey
Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:05 am
#123






DingoBoi wrote:


/keeps digging a tunnel towards the lake in hopes of making a bidet for the lady!






/taps Dingo on shoulder;


**huh? what? I'm busy digging**


**Dingo, I'm a surveyor. There could be a problem**


**don't bother me, I'm busy digging. Can't you see that????**


**Dingo, you dug too deep. You aren't going towards the lake. You are UNDER the lake**


/Deep silence, except for sound of water dripping. Slight creaking noises;



AND NOW, FOR THE LATE-BREAKING NEWS TONIGHT. IT SEEMS THAT ONE OF THE LAKES ON NABOO, NEAR KEREN, HAS SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED!!THE EMPIRE IS BLAMING THE REBELS FOR AN ACT OFSABOTAGE, AND THE REBELS ARE BLAMING THE EMPIRE FOR AN ATTACK UPON NABOO'S DELICATE ENVIRONMENT. AND HERE IS OUR REPORTER FROM THE SCENE, ON LIVE CAMERA.


We are interviewing one of the local property holders for his eye-witness account of this tragedy.


"We thought we could hear some sort of a loud digging noise, out towards the center of the lake. It suddenly stopped, and seconds later, the entire lake just went away, as if sucked out through some subterranean hole. I thought I could hear a woman's voice, screaming "Dingo, you idiot." And then the darndest thing happened. A whole big swarm of prospectors came up, and started putting harvesters all over where the lake had been. Said they had always found the highest percentages of whatever theywere looking for, right in the middle of the lake. There must be hundreds of various types out there, mineral and chemical and gas and such."


And there you have it. Back to you at the station.


Message Edited by LadyGrey on 09-29-2004 05:10 AM



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LadyGrey

Don't let the negative AFKophobes get you down. Play the game however you want.

Is the beta testing almost over for this game?
DingoBoi
Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:21 am
#124

OMGWTFLOL.. THAT WAS GOOD!



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cinnamon_tsunami
Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:16 am
#125






lisasdarren wrote:





cinnamon_tsunami wrote:


did all that. even called phone support, and tried the tech support board. still got snide responses, "we will not correct that", and tickets closed so i could not even have a dialogue.


Let me guess, after they told you they couldn't do that you kept insisting on sending in more tickets with the same info?


No, actually I tried to include additional information that I hoped would help them provide me with assistance. I submitted a total of three in game tickets spaced over several days, and tried to include more info in hopes that it might lead the csr to understand the problem correctly. I did not receive any response that indicated that they ever even fully read the tickets.


All I got was what I discribed. Nothin'. I spoke with phone support, used live chat, tried the tech support board, out of game email, and tried very civil, very detailed appeals in game via the holo/ticket system. I feel that I gave it a legitimate, articulate, non-abusive attempt. And my tickets were still closed without the option for discussion, my emails received form letter replies, and no one would ever even admit the system made the error.


Of course, you can only either take my word for it, or chose to disbelieve me. But either way, the facts remain.



the customer service for this game, in my personal experience, is horrific.


any decision not to replace/reimburse for system deletion errors is purely arbitrary on the part of the games administration. clearly, they can replace the vendor, the manitenance, and the items if they choose to do so. or they could choose to simply reimburse for the value of items theydelete inappropriately. they choose not to do so, which seems patently wrong. customer service isa term that describes what they should providing. they have in no way served me, the customer.


Corporate decisions are not bad customer service


Rather severe abstraction. Corporate descions may not technically BE customer service, but they certainly have a profound effect on customer service. In most cases (if not all), they are the basis on which customer service operates. If soe decides not to correct ingame problems that occur, that option for possible customer service is gone. So customer service is decided at that point by corporate policy.


And further, if corporate policy leads to a failure in training or quality of the csr's, then corporate policy determines customer service.


In fact, only in the rare instance is customer service independant of corporate policy. I can't really think of a good example of customer service not being fully based in corporate policy, but I guess it could happen.


, you not getting your own way is not bad customer service,


Not getting any assistance is bad customer service, no matter how you slice it. "The customer is always right" is an old adage that is widely used in business, and for a reason. There would be no harm to anyone is soe corrected my problem. They know that I did not cheat/hack/exploit/poach. They should give the customer the benefit of the doubt in such situations.


I realize that they cannot always do what I wish they would do. Server rollbacks, for instance, have occurred in the past in such a way that I lost credits or items. I was told, politely, the situation, and that they could not fix it. And I played on. However, that is not the case here. No reasonable approach is evident, and I have received rude, snide, and form-letter responses that simply do not pass muster as "customer service".


someone telling you "we will not correct that~" isnot bad customer service


Actually, if they screwed up, and they will not correct it, that is bad customer service. At least where I shop and work it is. And there is not an option to actually speak with a living human being regarding in game issues. That is generally seen as a bad thing in todays customer service environment. Usually, that is a result of outsourcing to areas where American English is not spoken. But I am not sure if that is part of the problem here.


, they are merely telling you the facts


No, they are reciting arbitrary corporate policies. They actually have the facts wrong. And apparently, I am not the only one who has had this particular problem.


, if you dont like the facts then that is unfortunate, but just because you don't like what you are told is the case doesn't make the people telling you that information bad or wrong.


I did not say they are bad people. They are wrong concerning the facts.


When they are rude in providing me with their version of soe corporate policy, when they can offer no options that might mitigate their error, when there is no obvious and easy to follow set of steps to obtain assistance, and when rather than allowing civil dialogue they close each ticket after simply saying "we will not assist you", that is horrific customer service. None of my real customers would ever come back if I simply treated them as I have been treated.


Of course, you were not there, so you only have your personal experience and your presuppositions as to the "facts" on which to base your comments, which is a pretty big impediment to discourse between us. So I am not trying to be hard on you. But I doubt that you would return to Wal-Mart, for example, if you got home and found the package you paid for was empty, and they would do nothing to remedy the situation. Even if it was due to a corporate decision.


And I certainly hope most people would hold a subscription game service to a reasonable standard of curtesy and effectiveness in remedying their clients problems. I have recieved neither civil nor effective intervention in my problem. In fact, the rude replies (or worse, no reply at all to out of game emails -- only 2 out of four attempts to get answers even received a reply)I have recieved have done more to cause me to cancell my account than the fact of their system error.













Message Edited by cinnamon_tsunami on 09-29-2004 09:43 AM



the dog ate my sig


DingoBoi
Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:37 am
#126






cinnamon_tsunami wrote:




Not getting any assistance is bad customer service, no matter how you slice it. "The customer is always right" is an old adage that is widely used in business, and for a reason. There would be no harm to anyone is soe corrected my problem. They know that I did not cheat/hack/exploit. They should give the customer the benefit of the doubt in such situations.






"The customer is always right" Now that is really, really funny. I fell off my chair.... or maybe it was the wine.... That phrase really is so... so... precious. /cackle










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Wendi
Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:26 pm
#127

It's ok Cinnamon_tsunami, these are the same guys who would walk in to Best Buy, etc. Purchase a sealed 80GB Maxtor hard drive. Go home and open it up to find its a 4.6 GB Hitachi, then just sit there while they realize according to corporate policy they were supposed to open the box before leaving the store to verify its contents. Therefore they accept their 100 dollar loss and move on. WRONG! Like hell if they wouldn't be up in the store and explaining the situation about how they were ripped off. But under their own pretences they just better hope that store doesn't run their operation how they say they expect it to be run in SWG. Some people are just ignorant to the situation until it happens to them and that's just a shame they cannot have foresight like that.



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DocSavag
Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:10 pm
#128



Wendi wrote:
It's ok Cinnamon_tsunami, these are the same guys who would walk in to Best Buy, etc. Purchase a sealed 80GB Maxtor hard drive. Go home and open it up to find its a 4.6 GB Hitachi, then just sit there while they realize according to corporate policy they were supposed to open the box before leaving the store to verify its contents. Therefore they accept their 100 dollar loss and move on. WRONG! Like hell if they wouldn't be up in the store and explaining the situation about how they were ripped off. But under their own pretences they just better hope that store doesn't run their operation how they say they expect it to be run in SWG. Some people are just ignorant to the situation until it happens to them and that's just a shame they cannot have foresight like that.




I tell you what..go to Best Buy and buy a copy of SWG. Open it. Then take it back and try to get a refund. Explain that you are the customer and are always right. Good luck.



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DingoBoi
Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:22 pm
#129

*snap*





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cinnamon_tsunami
Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:42 pm
#130






DocSavag wrote:





Wendi wrote:
It's ok Cinnamon_tsunami, these are the same guys who would walk in to Best Buy, etc. Purchase a sealed 80GB Maxtor hard drive. Go home and open it up to find its a 4.6 GB Hitachi, then just sit there while they realize according to corporate policy they were supposed to open the box before leaving the store to verify its contents. Therefore they accept their 100 dollar loss and move on. WRONG! Like hell if they wouldn't be up in the store and explaining the situation about how they were ripped off. But under their own pretences they just better hope that store doesn't run their operation how they say they expect it to be run in SWG. Some people are just ignorant to the situation until it happens to them and that's just a shame they cannot have foresight like that.






I tell you what..go to Best Buy and buy a copy of SWG. Open it. Then take it back and try to get a refund. Explain that you are the customer and are always right. Good luck.





real life example. so glad you brought it up...


when i bought my copy of swg, there was no cd key printed on the cd case. the sticker was there, but no key. it was not best buy, butbabbage's, our local computer game store,promptly exchanged it, apologized for the inconvenience, and gave me a discount coupon for my next purchase. i did not have to call long distance, use online chat, send emails, or even be insulted. they wanted my business, and they quickly remedied my problem. a real person actually listened to me, and helped me.


so what, you ask? big deal? ok, here is the kicker:


they never looked in the package to see if i was lying! they just took the package, and gave me another! they wanted me to be happy with my purchase there! and yes, i buy my games there, not best buy or wal-mart. it costs a couple of bucks more, but they proved they wanted my business.


ok, so i would be satisfied if soe even looked in the "package", checked out what i told them, i.e., the email saying the system deleted my vendor, and corrected the error. but they do not get it.



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