Medic Archive
Thread: Medics need to do their job
Dritz, what server are you on? If you're on Starsider:
1. Look me up. my name's Halden Melari. I love to hunt. 
2. I work for free. I enjoy just helping people and my pay is Exp.
3. I don't usually accept tips unless i'm too busy to bother sending the money back to people.
So no, not everybody is bent on just making money. Although i have seen such people. I saw a wookie once, stimpack chemist, just sit there as people poured into the med center, all heavily wounded. I asked said wookie to help, he said "no, my residence here is up, i only work for pay now"
Good luck trying to get somebody to pay you. can't wait till i pass him in XP.
So yeah, see you all on the front line! Hooah.
Halden Melari
lt cawthore
how do you make money? refuse tips? make fun of doctors that work hard and charge?
do i want to make money and horde in it and bathe in it? No, i want enough money to train. buy and maintain some food. maintain harvestors so i can make medical supplies and just survive. as a doctor it is very hard to do that unless i want to be a mail main. so many fighter types have tens of thousands of credits and still tip 50 credits to nothing when getting healed.
that is what hurts
I am going to skirt the basic issue, cause most of it has been covered here, except to say, its not about experience, we all get that for what we do. Its about credits. Medics pay out constantly to do what they do. In general, The "fighters" are either breaking even, or making some credits. I agree it might be a design flaw, but there is really no need forpeople not to be decent, realize our expenses, and tip now and then.
Now, I saw a few comments about "I cant heal in the field". This is untrue, even as a base medic. Also, it is untrue that you cannot fight while healing. I do both of these all of the time. What you cannot do, is heal while using special combat moves, but you can still blast away with no specials. When your group enters combat, target and attack the creature as normal.Dont cue up any special attacks though, or go prone (kneel is fine).
Whe you see who in your group is getting aggro,target them (IALT out of target mode intomouse mode). You can target the plawers HAM bars with you mouse of hotkeys. Hit your follow key. You will run to them and follow themeven if they are kiting.Spam your heal button. Keep an eye on the othersHAMs. If they start to drop, target that new player, hitfollow macro, and heal. This entire time, you will still be firing at your original target.
Its easy to do this, unless that party is REALLY spread out.Now, I plan on master Doctor, so i will never have ranged heals. But I do plan on being in the field, and being useful. Can you say REVIVE? I knew that you could...
God...just shut the hell up already.
I agree with what most thathas been posted here. Although, I really disagree with the idea of /tips. Medics/Docs have hurt themselves by askingdemanding tips. The whole philosphy of tips is that someone has gone beyond the norm so you tip them a gratuity.
If medics/docs in hospitalsneed money to obtain resources in order to heal you(which I believe they do), then they should charge for there services. Charge by the stimpack used, whatever. Tell someone up front how much it costs per stimpack and count how many is used.
As for groups, I also think it's rude to expect money. But you should make sure that split is turned on for loot. And that everyone gets a fair share of hides/bone/meat, etc.. As a CH, I pay for my pets from a BE, I pay for stims I heal my pets with.. I would never have the gaul to ask for money to cover my expenses. Grouping is a cooperative function where everyone contributes and everyone should gain. However sitting in a medical center healing wounds is a service, and should be paid for just like any other(Droid Engineer, Armor Crafter, etc..)
If you want to donate your services, by all means, then do so. But build respect and value for your services by charging in the medical center. And don't ask for tips.
I personally feel for medics/docs. I think the class is fairly broken and I appreciate you guys are struggling through it.
Nakgiracool you are a fool and an idiot...and a TROLL.
Medics do NOT exist to come out in groups with you and heal your sorry arse when you don't know how to handle yourself in a fight! Medics exist to DO WHATEVER THEY WANT! JUST LIKE YOU!
Combat medics exist to help on battle fields...not all medics want to be combat medics! Can you get THAT through your thick skull, little boy?
Damnit I am so tired of listening to whiney arse idiots who want to tell everyone else how to play their characters!! It is your attitude that makes people not want to group with you! How would you react if I came into the cantina as an artisan or medic and yelled at all the combat classes saying: "Damnit all you lazy arse idiots! Not a one of you will get off your butts and go with me and harvest hides and bone for me! Get up and do your JOB! You exist to farm supplies for ME!"
Wouldn't care much for that would you? Then stop trolling and trying to tell everyone else how to play! Geezus!!!!
> Do all medics care about is money?
Yes and no. I don't personallyonly care about money, however like all professions, it takes money to advance, so its kind of a nice thing to have.
Also, it seems like kind of a selfish reason to have a medic along if you're not going to help them out. They're helping you gain, why not help them gain by offering resources, or other compensation while they're out there.
Medics cannot always get as many XP in the same time period they can sitting in the Cantina or the Medical Center healing people.Also, you should try finding a COMBAT medic, or someone aspiring to be one (like myself). There are some that will go hunting, there are some that will not. There are some people who have an agenda, and they don't want to stray from it.
What server do you play on? I'm on Corellia, Ahazi. Catch me online if you want me to go hunting with you sometime. Grab ascout, setup a camp. It would be fun.
-Taiv Aarzak, Corellia, Ahazi
Ok.... I am a medic on Ahazi. Name is Blood'drive. Look me up because I LOVE going on exp groups and destroy missions. I have built up my combat skills enough so that I don't really care about money. I make enough to fund stimpack and armor upgrades.
Other medics... you really are needed in the battlefield. It's true that you need to get out of the hospital and get some real experience under your belt. It lets you become ALOT more self sufficient. Depending upon tips sucks. I could earn 6000cr in the time it would take me to accrue 500cr in tips.
Do your jobs! Heal the brawlers and marksmen!!!
-BD
If all the medics/doctors/combat medics etc are out hunting in groups,
what happens to the people who come to the med centres to heal wounds....?
They get stuck waiting for ages to heal themselves.
It's the same when medics are out gathering resources, or running missions to gain credits to buy resources or operate harvesters, or even out at the crafting station to make experimented meds
Personally I do both, med centre and grouping, both are good for the RPing which is what I am here for in the first place.
Also, as far as doing my job goes, I want to be a doctor.
The fieldwork is generally, though not exclusively, the purview of the Combat Medic instead.
Alarain Sherril
Tyrena, Corellia - Eclipse
Vapid,
You're missing the point of the medic career path. There are 3 branches. Combat Medic, Doctor, and Bio-engineer. Why on earth would an aspiring Doctor want on the combat field? Why would a Bio-engineer? If you want to do combat, go for it, but it is NOT where ALL medics should be.
-Dan Joseph
When I was first starting out, I did alot of healing work in the medical center. I got alot of my starting experience here and I got to talk to some of the medics who had been at it longer than me. Well, now when I go to the hospital I'm seeing newbie medics or people trying to learn some healing to give their own character a boost getting shut out of healing jobs by Novice Doctors... most of whom as for a tip after they /healwound for 80 points.
I say leave room for the newbie medics and new people who want to train themselves in FA1 in the hospitals. I do probably 80% of my wound healing in camps, 10% in player houses, and 10% in the hospital.
-BD
Vapid,
Not a bad thought. What would doctors do though? Not debating, just curious of your thoughts for them at that point. I'm going to start looking for more combat missions to go along with. I've also considered basic scout skills to place a camp for parties that don't have someone already. That's my ambition.
Also, those that are a little leary of combat so soon, check the edge of town. I've healed many people there, and gained quite a bit of XP.
-Dan Joseph
Taiv, you're right about the 3 types of career paths. When this person posted, I think he meant combat medics or those on their way to being a combat medic. (Marksman hehe).
Regardless though... we are going to need medics to go out with the fighters. As people progress and the hunting parties become more and more difficult, medics will be required for healing during fights, and doctors will be needed to cure wounds when camps are set up.
If someone is going down an artisan path... it is safe to assume that they will not be needed in battle. The things that they are needed for happen BEFORE anyone ever goes out.
Now... lets say that most medics choose to go the doctor route, and therefore do not leave cities very often on hunting parties. This means that the class balancing is going to be skewed and there will be very few medics actually going out helping these folks out.
I'm seeing more and more marksman start training in novice medic skills, mostly because they can't ever find anyone to heal them.
-BD