Medic Archive

Thread: My newest beef----------Dam Ninja Healers

IGotStarbuns
Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:10 am
#27

I have reached a point when I see the same medics in the med center around the same time I play - several of them are on my friend list and we all help each other out. Trading inorganics, organics - one day I gave a new stuggling newbie some stim packs....it's a nice relationship. People come in and there are on average 3 or 4 of us in there healing....we each start off one on one - then when we finish with ours we send a /tell to the others to see if they want help - usually they say come on over.....sometimes they say I'm almost done - i've never been told no I want the XP. I agree that they should of stopped - but have you spent any quality time in a medcenter? It's wild at times - 10 people with half black bars and 7 medics/docs trying to heal - if they were sent a /tell that asked them to stop, then they were wrong - undoubtly. But make sure they see your request. Private hospital or camp is a great idea - I go for camp myself when I'm out doing missions



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AlbinoWookiee
Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:24 am
#28


ROFLMAO!


Trying to "camp" people that need healing?


ROFLMAO!!!


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York
Tue Jul 15, 2003 2:39 pm
#29

This type of mentality really bites. I agree with everyone who posted saying that Med Centers R public, etc. What I don't understand is why this type of problem even exists including the stories about XP-fights in Med Centers. What's with this? When I started playing the game, I set my mind to "nice-mode" I promised myself not to get mad over a game. So far so good, no fights, no stress, no hassles. I'd been following this game for a LONG time and I was very touched by the "One-Big-Happy-Family" description of the SWG Community and so I tried to follow this. I've been insulted, made fun of, etc. but in my mind it was all in the idea of either Role-Playing or another possible reason that didn't lead to my getting angry. So far I've enjoyed my time in SWG, the only thing that does get to me every now and then is excessive lag in cities during raids, etc.

So my point is, am I the only one who got this "Big-Happy-Family-Community" impression? Or is everyone just talking about their bad experiences which are surely inevitable.

Anyways, if I am the only who got this impression, maybe the others should take into consideration what I've said.

Anyways, good luck all.
wynlyndd
Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:02 pm
#30

After seeing this thread, I decided to start asking whenever it looks like a particular medic is helping out someone. Not often but I did a few times. I was surprised that I did indeed get a few "No thank yous". Now I had never been asked before not to heal someone but I do understand the relationship that people have in wanting to get certain friends who are medics higher along. I heal for my friends in the same way.



So in short, sorry if I have ever "ninja healed" on any of you. "No" does mean "No".


But if you don't say "no", don't gripe about medics in a public place - a place designated for them to "do their thing" - healing everything in sight. It's our job....it's what we do.




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Nesilvia
Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:36 am
#31

Just my thoughts on this, as I haven't run into this particular scenario yet....


I think that the situation is both right and wrong for several reasons. I think it's wonderful Goohe has been a good doctor to gain the reputation he has. Patients that wait and ask for him by name is the greatest recognition we in the medical profession can get.


That being said, I think that Goohe has made his point well. I don't object to people healing others without asking. If they walk into a medical facility injured, then it's usually safe to assume they want to be healed (since we don't have to worry about healing tell-tale scars). However, if a patient requests a certain doctor's care, then I think it was rude of those to continue treating him. I know it is our medical oath to care for our patients, but it is also our job not to heal should the patient request that as well.


However, I don't think this problem will be solved if you stay in the med center, Goohe. Since the med center is the place for doctors to congregate, you can't always count on everyone to respect you and your patient's wishes. I would suggest either finding a quiet corner of the med center to do your healing (I've always managed to find one) or like others have suggested, set up your own shop or get a medical droid.


Either way, remember not to get mad and keep upbeat.




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Rabidx
Wed Jul 16, 2003 10:56 am
#32

This kinda bothers me too. I'm working hard on moving my guy up and when i'm 200 xp from my next box i get my charge healed by someone who is a master doctor already. Its really not fair to me who needs the xp more then him etc.

To combat this what i do actually is if ppl ask me specifically to heal them i'll tell them to go up to the second or third floors of the hospital. Usually i get a "thats an elevator? wow..didn't know that" then i get the xp that i was looking for.

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Acheron
Wed Jul 16, 2003 11:36 am
#33






Nesilvia wrote:

That being said, I think that Goohe has made his point well. I don't object to people healing others without asking.





I think the only issue here was that they did not stop healing when requested...and if that's the case, go spend 800 credits on a mouse droid with a medical module 1, and heal them wherever they want to be healed. Or leave the hospital for a few minutes, in case they're macro'd and AFK. I personally "ninja heal" walking around by the bazaar. I've found about 5 people this week who didn't know that they could get their wounds healed by medics in the hospital -- they thought they just sat in the hospital, and didn't want to waste their time doing it. They had to learn sometime, right?


What I don't understand is why everyone got mad about the others pitching in. If you're not in it for the XP and your patients don't want to tip anyone but you, then they can still tip you.


I do regular stints in Mos Entha Medical, and there's usually a trade-off or a queue happening. Wounded patients come in, and we either greet them and say we'll be with them shortly, or we ask one of the other medics on-duty to start on that patient. When people ask for training, the higher-up medics usually find out who needs the apprentice points, and dole out the training from there. If someone walks in and refuses service because they're waiting for that special medic, then they're about to never get healed again without directly (and politely) asking one of us for our help.



Qikstart
Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:23 am
#34

I agree with a lot of the opinions here, particularly: 1) the med center is public so you shouldn't expect to be a sole healer for a patient, 2) if a patient asks you to not heal them, you should honor their wishes.


Now that most of the servers have been up for a while and there are master professionals about, I think the original situation can be easily avoided by staying out of the med center and simply using your med droid to heal friends at home.


-Qik

AsanoChow
Fri Jul 18, 2003 2:28 am
#35

Dumbest


Thread


Ever




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FishWan
Fri Jul 18, 2003 12:24 pm
#36

Of course no means no. And yes, XP is hard to come by at the beginning, and I sometimes watch my XP bars when I'm close to reaaching a new skill. Right now I usually go into med centers when I have some onesy-twosey health packs left and I need to free up some inventory space. (Why can't the game realize that one's only got a single charge left and use that?)


Honestly, though, it's not hard to walk into a medical center and stand for 20 seconds to see who's healing whom. Even if it's a bunch of newbie medics, and scouts, and entertainers in gossamer white ("they have a basic medical training"), you can see who's being treated. You can spend this 20 seconds saying, "Dr. So And So, who's next in line?" You can click on the HAM bars of suspected medics to see if someone might be out of stim packs and are using /tendwound. You can assess the situation.


More than simply healing someone, collecting a tip and/or XP, and getting the patient back on his feet, it's only fair to make sure the first go first. If you think it's frustrating having "your" XP taken by another doc, imagine the Wookiee brawler who gets ignored because he's only got a couple of scrapes, and every doc leeches onto the guy with the all-black HAMs.


Take a second and see what's what. That's what I do.


FISH




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Flynn_Nomad
Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:31 pm
#37

Master Scout here browsing your boards. Just started a new medic character and need to learn...


I would LOVE for a medic or doctor to come OUT of the hospital on big hunts and help us out.


Thoughts?


Also did you know that a Ranger (fancy scout) can make a base camp with a medical crafting station in it? Cool huh? How does he fit it all in his pack?


Get out of the medical centers...we will protect you, lol




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Sharpshooterlongfellow
Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:05 pm
#38

LOL flynn I am always in the field healing ppl and killing ppl too . If u want ill exp with u.. ut waitr u a rebel.. if so sorry i can not.

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Mapl3
Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:25 am
#39

LOL This thread is still around



My god guys i cant believe it. I havent stepped in a med center in over 2 weeks and this is still going on. I guess i'm not missing anyting running my Med supplies shop out of enott's village.



I sell meds now,,no more sittin in a med center for hours barely being appreciated. If anyone wants me to heal them or train them and give me a /tell..






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