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FalinMor
Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:56 am
#105






Almightyrastus wrote:

I am in no way against PvP or think that is has no valid point in this game. It is just not for me, I have never liked it.


I have engaged in PvP inanother game I was partaking in the beta testing ona couple of times when we were asked to test that part out and it did nothing for me at all. If people like yourself want to look down on me because I didn't gain my master status 'by working as hard as you did' then fine, do that if you want, just leave me alone to play the game how I want to play it and don't force me into participating in something I just don't like.





To all the people in this thread who want to force PvP:


This is the majority. Most players feel this way. Why do you think you're better than they are and want to force your playstyle on them? I don't see them doing the same to you.


Falin

LowbaTherf
Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:56 am
#106






Fluxxen wrote:


  1. I dont like PvP, not in a game this big where I cant choose my enemies.

  2. I dont enjoy being "pwned" or "pwning" people, it gives me no pleasure.

  3. I do however enjoy a challange beyond my normal playfield, soI actually enjoy the challange to become a master. If I manage it, then I will have accomplished something beyond my normal scope of play and will have truly done something diffrent.







/bow


This is a true gamer. Mysunguard is off to you.





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BrotherDavius
Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:58 am
#107

Falinmor let me ask you this to get in to deep space (a pvp zone) you have to be a master pilot, why are you not complaining about this? Why should i have to master pilot just to fly into deep space?


The way you are saying is that everyone should be able to do what ever they want and not have to do stuff they don't want to, that is what you are saying this is why most stuff on the ground can be done on you own and that is wrong.


Also on the pvp vs pve you do know there was a poll done on these borads a few months ago, the results where most people don't like pvp on the ground but could not wait to pvp in space as greifing will not be much of a problem.


About the gvw yes it should be mainly about pvp and not pve.


Let me ask you allwhich sectorwould you like the master mission moved to?


Droidmaker666
Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:23 am
#108

Ever play UO it use to have forced pvp till the those 12 year old kids started killing off entire towns using expoits causing the entire server grief then they had to change it because people were quitting right left and center.

They would just stand outside of town and kill every nubie they saw over and over again gaining nothing other than griefing players, seems to be enough for them its fun, to someone that started the game its not fun at ALL!.

Having a top level player beating on nubies is whats going to happen imagine pvp changed in eq where lvl 70's could attack any lvl.

I have also played linage 2 let me tell you alot of kids have come up to me and started swearing/insulting me just to get me to attack, ever see what happens to someone that goes red LOL no matter what lvl you are you get hunted down by 50 people at once.

There were also red players that would kill afk vendors just for fun in L2 where is the sport in that?.

Forced pvp is just a bad idea, any game that forces grouping is also a bad idea i like the right to choose where and when it happens.
Massadonious
Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:24 am
#109

ATTN EVERYONE!


I have a solution to this problem! No more arguing is needed!


Move Master level missions out of the PvPzone and into a PvE one. Here is what you look forward to having to destroy!



  • 60-70 Tier 4 ships to make up for the lack of player AI.

  • 2 Corvettes with high shield regen rates.

There we go, problem solved!!


....


Wait, are you telling me that's too hard?


Well, it is moved out ofthe PvP zone, so what's the big deal?









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BrotherDavius
Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:29 am
#110






Droidmaker666 wrote:
Ever play UO it use to have forced pvp till the those 12 year old kids started killing off entire towns using expoits causing the entire server grief then they had to change it because people were quitting right left and center.

They would just stand outside of town and kill every nubie they saw over and over again gaining nothing other than griefing players, seems to be enough for them its fun, to someone that started the game its not fun at ALL!.

Having a top level player beating on nubies is whats going to happen imagine pvp changed in eq where lvl 70's could attack any lvl.

I have also played linage 2 let me tell you alot of kids have come up to me and started swearing/insulting me just to get me to attack, ever see what happens to someone that goes red LOL no matter what lvl you are you get hunted down by 50 people at once.

There were also red players that would kill afk vendors just for fun in L2 where is the sport in that?.

Forced pvp is just a bad idea, any game that forces grouping is also a bad idea i like the right to choose where and when it happens.






So you want stuff in this game to be soloable??? and it is not like master pilots will be shooting nebie pilots, it will be more along the lines of masters shooting 4.4.4.4. level pilots. The mission dose not need you to kill players it just requres that you complte it i a pvp zone.


I will ask this again if they moved the master mission out of the pvp sector which one would you like them to put it in?

Massadonious
Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:37 am
#111






Droidmaker666 wrote:

Forced pvp is just a bad idea, any game that forces grouping is also a bad idea i like the right to choose where and when it happens.




Go try the master level pilot missions solo. Let me know what happens.


With or without PC's in there, you will get OWNED.









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BrotherDavius
Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:45 am
#112






Massadonious wrote:





Droidmaker666 wrote:

Forced pvp is just a bad idea, any game that forces grouping is also a bad idea i like the right to choose where and when it happens.




Go try the master level pilot missions solo. Let me know what happens.


With or without PC's in there, you will get OWNED.










I think droid was just talking out of his ***.

Vicotnik
Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:16 pm
#113






Massadonious wrote:

ATTN EVERYONE!


I have a solution to this problem! No more arguing is needed!


Move Master level missions out of the PvPzone and into a PvE one. Here is what you look forward to having to destroy!



  • 60-70 Tier 4 ships to make up for the lack of player AI.

  • 2 Corvettes with high shield regen rates.

There we go, problem solved!!


....


Wait, are you telling me that's too hard?


Well, it is moved out ofthe PvP zone, so what's the big deal?



Heh, that's pretty much what we asked for during beta. We suggested that they should move the missions out of Kessel into another sector, but make them a bit harder. They didn't listen though, that is why the arguing continues.




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BrotherDavius
Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:10 am
#114






Vicotnik wrote:





Massadonious wrote:

ATTN EVERYONE!


I have a solution to this problem! No more arguing is needed!


Move Master level missions out of the PvPzone and into a PvE one. Here is what you look forward to having to destroy!



  • 60-70 Tier 4 ships to make up for the lack of player AI.

  • 2 Corvettes with high shield regen rates.

There we go, problem solved!!


....


Wait, are you telling me that's too hard?


Well, it is moved out ofthe PvP zone, so what's the big deal?




Heh, that's pretty much what we asked for during beta. We suggested that they should move the missions out of Kessel into another sector, but make them a bit harder. They didn't listen though, that is why the arguing continues.







So which sector do you think they should put the master mission in then?
Vicotnik
Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:40 am
#115






BrotherDavius wrote:





Vicotnik wrote:





Massadonious wrote:

ATTN EVERYONE!


I have a solution to this problem! No more arguing is needed!


Move Master level missions out of the PvPzone and into a PvE one. Here is what you look forward to having to destroy!



  • 60-70 Tier 4 ships to make up for the lack of player AI.

  • 2 Corvettes with high shield regen rates.

There we go, problem solved!!


....


Wait, are you telling me that's too hard?


Well, it is moved out ofthe PvP zone, so what's the big deal?




Heh, that's pretty much what we asked for during beta. We suggested that they should move the missions out of Kessel into another sector, but make them a bit harder. They didn't listen though, that is why the arguing continues.







So which sector do you think they should put the master mission in then?





Any would work. Why does that matter?



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BrotherDavius
Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:43 am
#116






Vicotnik wrote:





BrotherDavius wrote:





Vicotnik wrote:





Massadonious wrote:

ATTN EVERYONE!


I have a solution to this problem! No more arguing is needed!


Move Master level missions out of the PvPzone and into a PvE one. Here is what you look forward to having to destroy!



  • 60-70 Tier 4 ships to make up for the lack of player AI.

  • 2 Corvettes with high shield regen rates.

There we go, problem solved!!


....


Wait, are you telling me that's too hard?


Well, it is moved out ofthe PvP zone, so what's the big deal?




Heh, that's pretty much what we asked for during beta. We suggested that they should move the missions out of Kessel into another sector, but make them a bit harder. They didn't listen though, that is why the arguing continues.







So which sector do you think they should put the master mission in then?





Any would work. Why does that matter?





Well don't some sectors have factions in them, there must be a few that would just have mainly rebels or imps or pirates in them?
Vicotnik
Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:22 am
#117






BrotherDavius wrote:





Vicotnik wrote:


Any would work. Why does that matter?





Well don't some sectors have factions in them, there must be a few that would just have mainly rebels or imps or pirates in them?



Actually, most sectors contain all "three" factions. There seems to be rebels, imperials and a few different "neutral" factions in each sector. But that wouldn't be an issue, since these sectors would have to get Tier 5 spawns for rebels and imps. Dathomir would probably work best.




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