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Ackew
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:12 pm
#92
hey crapetgunk i see you still have reply to my post about what your going to price things at when you have to start BUYING your own resources. casue you sure as hell are not going to be able to keep up with demand.
Binstubbs
Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:02 pm
#93
DingoBoi wrote:
What I don't respect is his attempt to call his prices reasonable as if it should be the norm and that anyone charging more who actually does value their time and resources is somehow 'bad'.
He purports to call his pricing 'reasonable' when it is anything but reasonable. It's downright irrational.
Oh no, is someone threatening to dash your dreams of selling ships for millions upon millions of creditsfor something that costs a Mokk mission reward to make?
Heaven forbid
Yes I remember the hate and petty bitterness I received when mounts first were implemented and my kaadus never rose above their original prices of 7500 credits. I was such a bad guy, ruining the game for everyone else, blah blah blah, wah wah waaaaaaahh.
Get a life, if you tried to extort people like that in real life they'd probably just kick your ass and take your crap from you and laugh in your face. So I guess it's doubly important to get that little ego boost ingame, enjoy.
If this guy's ships are crap, his business will reflect it, shouldnt matter to you or anyone else. However if he makes good ships, then it is not he who should be giving the customers an explanation of his pricing, its the gougers.
You're a clown dingboi, go sell some adhesives for a bazillion credits or, even better, cancel your account so people dont have to deal with dirtbags like you.
I commend the ad placed here it looks promising, hopefully he can in fact meet his demand and keep his prices reasonable without sacrificing quality, we wont know til next week will we??
So stop your petty whining. Your incessant flaming and high number of posts here does little more than convince everyone that you are a detriment to your server and likely a waste of skin.
Message Edited by Binstubbs on 10-23-2004 08:12 PM
Ackew
Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:20 pm
#94
Binstubbs wrote:
DingoBoi wrote:
What I don't respect is his attempt to call his prices reasonable as if it should be the norm and that anyone charging more who actually does value their time and resources is somehow 'bad'.
He purports to call his pricing 'reasonable' when it is anything but reasonable. It's downright irrational.
Oh no, is someone threatening to dash your dreams of selling ships for millions upon millions of creditsfor something that costs a Mokk mission reward to make?
Heaven forbid
Yes I remember the hate and petty bitterness I received when mounts first were implemented and my kaadus never rose above their original prices of 7500 credits. I was such a bad guy, ruining the game for everyone else, blah blah blah, wah wah waaaaaaahh.
Get a life, if you tried to extort people like that in real life they'd probably just kick your ass and take your crap from you and laugh in your face. So I guess it's doubly important to get that little ego boost ingame, enjoy.
If this guy's ships are crap, his business will reflect it, shouldnt matter to you or anyone else. However if he makes good ships, then it is not he who should be giving the customers an explanation of his pricing, its the gougers.
Actually no he is saying that crapetgunk is selling this low ON PURPOSE to try and ruin the market for rest of us who want to charge a price that includes something for the time and effort we have put in to gathering the many millions of resources needed to master and build good ships. If he want to sell crap ships made with crap reourcesat 1cpu thats fine please go right ahead. The problem is he wants to sell ships made with resources that virtually anyone else would sell just the resources for 5+ cpu thats with out the time and effort required to make then into ships. You really think someone like say FORD sells thier cars at say $1per kg ofeach resource used in thier makeing. Of course not. Now i know thats a REAL world example. But this relevant to the game. Ford has been going for a long time WHY cause it makes a PROFIT. How else are you going to continue to make ships if you not makeing money with which to power and maintain all the stuff you need to make the product in the 1st place. Unless of course you like haveing to go do mission everday so you can pay for your harvs and houses. I know i don't
DingoBoi
Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:30 pm
#95
you know, I don't plan on price gouging. I never did it in power and never intend to do it in ships or their components.
Again for the dolt who won't understand, If i was greedy and money-hungry, I would have been in minerals all along instead of power. I intend to sell at a markup yes, but not an outrageous one. I have carefully factored in my time and effort collecting this as well as fair market value for the resources themselves. It makes no sense to sell below resource value. Again, for you jergo, that's like having a gold brick worth 100K credits and making 10 necklaces out of them and selling them for 1k each... That's a 90k credit loss.
And yes, this is a game, but it is an economic game for many, including myself. This is a virtual world where we can run businesses. Somebody bottoming out the market, as happened with architect is not good. And yes, jergo, you will run out of resources, and I wonder what you will do then.
You have also failed to answer the questions posed to you and instead merely resorted to shouting "I HARVEST MY OWN RESOURCES". Good for you, you can type in all capital letters. Your mother must be so proud.
Answer the questions posed to you jergo, or are you somehow scared to? It should be easy, shouldn't it? You seem to feel deeply about your beliefs at least, yet you consistantly fail to answer the questions.
Why?
Message Edited by DingoBoi on 10-24-2004 01:32 AM
NonCant
Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
#96
Bottom line: THIS PRICING IS GREAT. I totally stand by your prices and will gladly buy ships for your price. You don't have to be rich to pay for ships like these cmon ppl.
CarpetGunk
Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:26 pm
#97
Dingo... I offer this very respectful and non-flaming response to your last thread....
I have harvested my own resources since April, I will continue to do so. I am not in the resource market, I am in the ship market. I will decide what I want to charge for my ships.
Please... Can we seriously leave this be? Really.... Please?
If anything... the thread has seen merespectfully and kindly ask you to let this rest in a mature manner.
CarpetGunk
Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:28 pm
#98
Ackew... Do not speak of things which you do not know...
I've been playing since LAUNCH. Been harvesting since APRIL 2003. I will CONTINUE to harvest high-quality resources.
Go away. I am not driven by greed. I am driven by fun and helping others have fun.
Edit: /salute... I am done with this thread.
Message Edited by CarpetGunk on 10-23-2004 11:39 PM
XtremeOmega
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:02 pm
#99
If you were in my server (Radiant), I would buy from you carpetgunk.
SwyftHaE
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:50 pm
#100
well if they use 1cpu products then the buyer is getting what they pay for, for sure. An all natural POS. Yes there are different qualities and I don't recall if I even seen different shield platings, weapons, missles, etc in those quotes. So expect to spend 250k+ on any decent ship, unless you just want to fly around with no weapons and get shot up then you just use the gimp ship they give you.
Ackew
Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:15 am
#101
crapet gunk what you going to do when you run out of resources and have to BUY more to make the hundreds of ships people will order from you at 1cpu and then go sell them at 10 or moretimes the price to other people. You sure as hell can't mine enough to keep up with the demand you will create with 8 lots. Are you going to be useing the NEW resources that spawned on thursday. There is 8 of them on 8 different planets. So you can have 1 harv on each and thats it opps you can't mine theMILLIONS of units of metal and other resources you will need. You do know don't you that ALL ship andparts are made by HAND. Hope you enjoy doing nothing but crafting 24/7, cause with the demand you will have thats all you will be doing.
Before saying what IS and IS not a fair price please consider that it takes about 6.5 MILLION resources to get to master. Even if thier the worst kind and you only sell them for 1 cpu like gunk here thats still an investment of 6.5 MILLION credits. You canget about 14k of resources a day with a heavy harv.To get just the steel you needit will take you over 164 hours.Most people unlike gunk don't want to waste time and credits so they want a return on thier investment. If thier also useing reources that they could sell on the bazzar with no effort for 5 to 10 cpu. They sure as hell WILL NOT take the time and effort to make stuff with and then sell them for 10% to 20% of the price they could get on the bazzar. I fear a LOT of people will be VERY shocked by the prices of MOST ships when it goes live. ever after the "silly" period of the first few days.
Diorchas
Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:59 am
#102
So someone who posts an alternative standard of "fairness" here gets one-starred? That's mature. hehehe
BrotherDavius
Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:40 am
#103
Carpetgunk what server you on.
Also to the people who are bashing him about his prices, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, my god you lot are like 5 years old. So what if he wants to sell his stuff for that price. if he is not on thesame server then stop crying, if he is then you will make no cash and people will love him for not being greedy.
Willbaby
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:33 am
#104
well depending on how res quality effects the final build , theres no way on earth a1cpu price structure is going to be possible with quality res , some of the better res on my server sells for 20cpu+, so if im expected to use them the price of my final product will reflect that and also the time i put into it.