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cdude93
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:45 am
#79

Having been there last night, I'd probably chalk this one up to either a bad template or operator error. You ambushed her when she had two giant kraytes on her. Nothing wrong with that at all, but I'd expect a good BH to seal the deal in that situation. Or try going into cover earlier and moving into position without showing up on the radar. And when you pretend to leave go farther out before getting off your speeder and cloaking to come back. It's kinda pointless if they can still see you on the radar circling back. I know it would take longer, and be sorta like, I dunno, hunting or something.


I'd recommend getting pistols 0003 so you at least have a root. I'm all for BHs and think they're great, but also when you call someone a coward for running into a safehouse then drop your house and run inside when they come out to fight you, you look kinda silly.





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Durzel
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:20 am
#80

For what it's worth, I pretty much cloak ALL the time, because I'm just not into solo PvP (if I was I would be FOTM MLS/MDef, instead of MPowers, etc). I never smack talk after cloaking, it's used purely as a means of escape. I even apologise to the MBH afterwards, wish him/her well and hope that they didn't have to travel too far to find me.

Is that wrong?

I've had one MBH come for me who told me - in so many words - that "PvP is part of Jedi, accept it". Well, it's not for me, at least - not when I don't want it to be.

If I considered myself to be better at it and/or I had a sabre that was stronger than a red ice lolly then maybe I'd feel different.



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WoLpAcK
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:50 am
#81

you are all aware that at the moment with thyroid rupture and post cu sabers many jedi cant actually outdamage a bh's heals and instead run them outta force...you are all aware of that..k just checking because for a minute there i thought you just wanted rid of cloak so you could feel better by beating a jedi that couldnt actually kill you to begin with ....



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HyprHypo
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:54 am
#82



WoLpAcK wrote:
you are all aware that at the moment with thyroid rupture and post cu sabers many jedi cant actually outdamage a bh's heals and instead run them outta force...you are all aware of that..k just checking because for a minute there i thought you just wanted rid of cloak so you could feel better by beating a jedi that couldnt actually kill you to begin with ....




I dont have 0004 CM and im sure most BHs dont so this doesnt really apply to me, does it?
nobody said cloak is the only thing wrong with this game, it's just that cloak is game breaking and we see it more than any other profession



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Camelz
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:07 am
#83






WoLpAcK wrote:
you are all aware that at the moment with thyroid rupture and post cu sabers many jedi cant actually outdamage a bh's heals and instead run them outta force...you are all aware of that..k just checking because for a minute there i thought you just wanted rid of cloak so you could feel better by beating a jedi that couldnt actually kill you to begin with ....






1) I dont have any CM in my template


2) I dont have any Doc in my template


3) I dont particularly want to get rid of cloak - but 95% of the gaming community including Powers users agree that cloak is overpowered in its current format


4) Any Jedi that blames their poor PVP ability on post-cu pearls is a n00b and their comments loose all credibilty in a forum frequented by players who regularly interact with Jedi that actually can play the game.


k just checking that you weren't saying that u sux cause of post cu pearls.





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WoLpAcK
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:17 am
#84

I know it makes you feel better when you beat an alpha class profession...you feel special and uber and you feellike your the best player there is ....its okay i understand that, your angry because you realise that at the moment you can get alot of easy kills till saber damage is fixed again and cloak is preventing you from doing that, all im saying is that at the moment alot of other people can do it to so theres nothing specialso how about you put up with it and then when they fix the bugsi.e. saber speedtapes then alot of jedi will be able to drop it and go back to being able to fightbh's without being handicapped..okay



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WoLpAcK
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:24 am
#85

bh's wont quit...theyll just grind jedi...how many bh's here are already going through the fs trees



if you cant beat em join em





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Camelz
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:27 am
#86






Daisame wrote:





-Torque- wrote:


Clouding my mind while talking trash "You can't kill me now, better luck next time I'm putting you in my pwn'd BH list because you had to give up.. " yeah that serves a purpouse.


But how about this then MBH Mask. a MBH can mask himself from his marks while walking (like Mask Scent) no Jedi can see him until he makes the first move, but then of course you jedi will complain about BH's having too much content.






Anyone doing that is a jerk. There are plenty of jerks to go around. Jedi and BH do not have a monopoly on that. The big difference between a Jedi Cloak and a BH being able to effectively do the same thing... a Jedi is not using it to hunt other players and therefor gain a HUGE advantage in combat. And if you are a rifleman, you have cover and have some ability to do that anyway.





WRONG - that is EXACTLY the problem with /cloak IMHO. It doesn't bother me too much if a BH mark cloaks and runs - c'est la vie and my bad for letting them. What does bother me is that I cant play in the GCW because I cant declare anywhere without being ganked by cloakers. And before some smart a$$ replies "well dont declare in Coronet/Theed etc then" - I dont, but I still get ganked.



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HyprHypo
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:29 am
#87



Camelz wrote:


Daisame wrote:


-Torque- wrote:


Clouding my mind while talking trash "You can't kill me now, better luck next time I'm putting you in my pwn'd BH list because you had to give up.. " yeah that serves a purpouse.

But how about this then MBH Mask. a MBH can mask himself from his marks while walking (like Mask Scent) no Jedi can see him until he makes the first move, but then of course you jedi will complain about BH's having too much content.



Anyone doing that is a jerk. There are plenty of jerks to go around. Jedi and BH do not have a monopoly on that. The big difference between a Jedi Cloak and a BH being able to effectively do the same thing... a Jedi is not using it to hunt other players and therefor gain a HUGE advantage in combat. And if you are a rifleman, you have cover and have some ability to do that anyway.


WRONG - that is EXACTLY the problem with /cloak IMHO. It doesn't bother me too much if a BH mark cloaks and runs - c'est la vie and my bad for letting them. What does bother me is that I cant play in the GCW because I cant declare anywhere without being ganked by cloakers. And before some smart a$$ replies "well dont declare in Coronet/Theed etc then" - I dont, but I still get ganked.





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WoLpAcK
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:32 am
#88


as stated if you have cloak...your either lacking in offence..defense...healing...there are alot of melee professionseg the tkm master swordsman combo that can defeat a jedi 1 on 1 .


it is your fault for going overt in an area where cloaked pvpers may be but now you can count itas pvp experience and learn from it


You are aware also that even jedi die from being ganked by large groups of other jedi./..it isnt just non jedi





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WoLpAcK
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:34 am
#89

and isnt the bh's that also have the "first attack" advantage when hunting ...and now your complaining because some1 else has it....riiiiight.



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HyprHypo
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:13 pm
#90



WoLpAcK wrote:
and isnt the bh's that also have the "first attack" advantage when hunting ...and now your complaining because some1 else has it....riiiiight.




what, are you new? The first attack was suppose to even us up. Cloak gives an over powered profession even more of an advantage. Giving a Jedi first attack is like making them 2x better (or whatever, you do the math)



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Ialwysdie
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:43 pm
#91






-Torque- wrote:

This has been quite a problem lately for me, I get to my mark, they see me run and cloakthen they just follow me around for hrs. invisible. Heres my problem with it all, I'm Master Rifleman and I can cover, but when someone walks by me they uncover me, It's obvious that the jedi is right next to me and I want to shoot him. I can't target him, /tar doesen't work, you can't auto click him. this move is being exploited and it just is getting to rediculous, it needs to either break when someone gets nearby like cover or we should be able to target them. this ruins so many of my bountys. They can place houses while cloaked, drop them and walk inside.


Can this issue please be addressed Tanks?






Bombdroids should be able to break cloak. That would fix this situation perfectly.


As a Master Powers Jedi i feel this is viable.


Those who don't just want the skill nerfed.


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