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Thread: An Equitable Alternative to TIE Fighters with Hyperdrives

blaisedinsd
Wed May 19, 2004 3:37 pm
#79

No proof for my argument,? technically you supportmy argument. A TIE fighter can be modified, just because it does not usually have a hyperdrive does not mean it can not have a hyperdrive. You agree.


We only differ on that a player having a TIE fighter with a HD in JTLS, I say it does not break continuity.


And who the heck made you an Expert? Why am I not an Expert, I am undefeated at Starwars Trivial pursuit dangit!!!!!


I want to have several TIE fighters and they all will have Hyperdrives and crying about continuity is not going to change that because the devs have more common sense then the irrational continuity crowd.
OHMSS225
Wed May 19, 2004 3:41 pm
#80






blaisedinsd wrote:

No proof for my argument,? technically you supportmy argument. A TIE fighter can be modified, just because it does not usually have a hyperdrive does not mean it can not have a hyperdrive. You agree.


We only differ on that a player having a TIE fighter with a HD in JTLS, I say it does not break continuity.


And who the heck made you an Expert? Why am I not an Expert, I am undefeated at Starwars Trivial pursuit dangit!!!!!


I want to have several TIE fighters and they all will have Hyperdrives and crying about continuity is not going to change that because the devs have more common sense then the irrational continuity crowd.






I never said players couldn't have TIEs with HD's. But when you modify a TIE with shields and hyperdrive, you have to add to the hull, add power cells, and change the wings to collect more energy. After you've done all this, it's a TIE Advanced. So why not just buy a stock TIE Advanced and get the upgraded weapons and hull along with it?



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JanGaarni
Wed May 19, 2004 3:44 pm
#81






blaisedinsd wrote:

No proof for my argument,? technically you supportmy argument. A TIE fighter can be modified, just because it does not usually have a hyperdrive does not mean it can not have a hyperdrive. You agree.






But you fail to see in what way we agree, appearantly.


You seem to just see the words, "it can of course have hyperdrive" then completelly disregard the rest.

Technically yes, we are agreeing, but practiacally it is no longer a TIE Fighter, it's a TIE somethingelse.



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blaisedinsd
Wed May 19, 2004 3:58 pm
#82

How can you say that if you add a Hyperdrive to standard TIE Fighter your going to end with a TIE advance??? A TIE advance is a different design with a different purpose, a TIE defender was specifically designed to combat the X-wing. There is more than one way to do anything, redesgning a TIE will yield a completely different result than simple adding a Hyperdrive to a standard TIE fighter. All ships should be able to travel to planets in JTLS expansion, it is a relatively minor bending of continuity and even that is subjective. The Devs agree and it is the best decision, I am just trying to make you all feel better about it. Continuity itself is a subjective thing that is changed all the time anyway, I dont understand all this whining about it.
blaisedinsd
Wed May 19, 2004 4:04 pm
#83

And in reality the only reason there are so many different models of TIE's is so they can have more toys and make more money.......... That is part of the brilliance of Lucas.

Message Edited by blaisedinsd on 05-19-2004 04:04 PM

JanGaarni
Wed May 19, 2004 4:55 pm
#84






blaisedinsd wrote:

And in reality the only reason there are so many different models of TIE's is so they can have more toys and make more money.......... That is part of the brilliance of Lucas.

Message Edited by blaisedinsd on 05-19-2004 04:04 PM





lol, can't argue with that.



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blaisedinsd
Wed May 19, 2004 5:34 pm
#85

I was just reading that the Original movies are being tweaked again, the DVD release is not going to be the exact Special Edition release but will be "the incarnations of the films "as George Lucas sees them today." "


The major Change rumored is putting Hayden as the Jedi spirt Luke sees in ROTJ, along with several other changes.


So really an individual TIE fighterhaving the ability to bemodified to have a hyperdrive is not a big change when people can't even decide if Boba Fett died in the Sarlaac or even his origin, who shot first Han or Greedo, or why sometimes Sebulba vanishes from his Pod in TPM.

Egeis
Wed May 19, 2004 7:08 pm
#86


How about keep the Hyperdrive engine and add a message box.







Message from Cmdr. Thunderheartat Imperial Hyperspace Travel Request Office


Hyperspace Jump request has been recieved and approved. Activation signal is being transmited, please standby...







Make activating the Tie's hyperdrive "story" like. You have to request the activation code to use the drive. The message could enter the screen as a system message.


If certian systems in the future are "locked down" the message could read:








Message from Cmdr. Thunderheartat Imperial Hyperspace Travel Request Office


Hyperspace Jump request has been recieved andDenied.Activation Signal will not be sent, please return to combat.







Just my two cents...
OHMSS225
Wed May 19, 2004 10:21 pm
#87






blaisedinsd wrote:

How can you say that if you add a Hyperdrive to standard TIE Fighter your going to end with a TIE advance??? A TIE advance is a different design with a different purpose, a TIE defender was specifically designed to combat the X-wing. There is more than one way to do anything, redesgning a TIE will yield a completely different result than simple adding a Hyperdrive to a standard TIE fighter. All ships should be able to travel to planets in JTLS expansion, it is a relatively minor bending of continuity and even that is subjective. The Devs agree and it is the best decision, I am just trying to make you all feel better about it. Continuity itself is a subjective thing that is changed all the time anyway, I dont understand all this whining about it.







How is continuity, something based on precedented facts, subjective? Are you familiar with the definitition?



Oh, and Fett didn't die in Sarlaac. Duh.




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OHMSS225
Wed May 19, 2004 10:22 pm
#88






blaisedinsd wrote:

I was just reading that the Original movies are being tweaked again, the DVD release is not going to be the exact Special Edition release but will be "the incarnations of the films "as George Lucas sees them today." "


The major Change rumored is putting Hayden as the Jedi spirt Luke sees in ROTJ, along with several other changes.


So really an individual TIE fighterhaving the ability to bemodified to have a hyperdrive is not a big change when people can't even decide if Boba Fett died in the Sarlaac or even his origin, who shot first Han or Greedo, or why sometimes Sebulba vanishes from his Pod in TPM.







This is a rumor based on doctored stills.



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DaraShaku
Wed May 19, 2004 11:19 pm
#89

Oh, my poor, helpless thread -ye never even knew what hit ye...
JanGaarni
Thu May 20, 2004 2:40 am
#90






DaraShaku wrote:
Oh, my poor, helpless thread -ye never even knew what hit ye...







Hehehe, ok ok I'll stop, DaraShaku.


I think your solution is brilliant.




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DaraShaku
Thu May 20, 2004 9:20 am
#91

No big deal, Jan!


It's just that when the Han/Greedo debate comes into play, that's a pretty clear sign we've strayed waaaay off topic!


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