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shadowlith
Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:40 am
#53

Vs KD you just gotta hope it doesn't stick. If all else fails, make a macro that has /stand and /InsertbestshotHere. You can still get shots off even though you keep getting dizzied and fall down. Oooh this is post 100. *prays for an edit button*




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mackpreacher
Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:09 am
#54

What about flushing1 (dizzyshot...) and then suppression fire 1... dizzy + posture down= to the ground...
it workd for me the other day... well i am not a master and my opponent wasnt either, but seemed quite easy... he was a fencer or a swordman, i cant remember, the fact is that he became dizzy, i fired suppression,hefeltand then three HS and incap... he couldnt even heal other bars cos he was on the ground!!


this does not work generally or i was very lucky?




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DarthTomm
Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:48 am
#55






mackpreacher wrote:
What about flushing1 (dizzyshot...) and then suppression fire 1... dizzy + posture down= to the ground...
it workd for me the other day... well i am not a master and my opponent wasnt either, but seemed quite easy... he was a fencer or a swordman, i cant remember, the fact is that he became dizzy, i fired suppression,hefeltand then three HS and incap... he couldnt even heal other bars cos he was on the ground!!


this does not work generally or i was very lucky?






I have this macro, /flurryshot2(dizzy); /suppresionfire1;/startleshot2; and it works vs pve and sometimes in pvp.. but here is the the problem. I have to shoot 3 times and hit on each one and have a success on each one for this combo to work. What generally happens, even at master, is that one or two are unsuccessful, even though I do hit and do damage. I will miss suppression fire and not posture down or I will miss dizzy.


But a BH has only to use 1 shot to do all of these things.. then spam his kd shot. And then I am screwed, because I am taking double damage for bein on my back. It only takes 1 or 2 shots after I go down and I spawning in the cloning center.


I will try making the stand and shoot macro. I have noticed that happens to me when I kd in pve with my tka. I will start using my jawa as well. I forget about the stun dmg and go for the high dmg output.. but i forget most of it is being absorbed by the armor.





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OneHung
Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:03 am
#56






DarthTomm wrote:




Ok great I am hearing alot of good info here, but I have to update. Thesecond fight I was talking about, was a different fight, and Iwas master with mitigation 3.. and got friggin owned. Now I am not pissed I got owned, because A) I R NEWB and B) It's just gonna happen sometimes no matter how goodI get.




But, I am wearing armor in combat, I have a composite helmet and chestplate with 70% protection. I down muon, fishak and I have TKA 2111. I migrated most of my stats to Mind so when I do powerboost, which I have to do religiously, my stats are 1050 health 1050 action 1650 mind. Add muon and fishak and its 2650, though I rarely do this. I generally use fishak during muon downers.




Iwasn't buffed at the time, and he was, but I was headshotting him to no effect. Ok, I realise now, that I should have switched to my jawa ion. I totally brain farted and tried to use my t21 cause I was feeling pretty buff at the time. Mowin down troopers like weeds in kadaara. The guy was in full composite and I will have to start paying attention to that stuff.


But what can I do about the KD? Because that is what has killed me twice vs BHs. Someone said food? What food is this? I have TKA now but I am stuck holochefing it for a few days, so I can't go any higher without recinding later.




Here are stats before PB, muon and fishak.

500

500

400

500

500

400

1100

1000

500




Thanks guys!




Just getting TKA won't help you in KD, you'll need to get skills in either fencer/pistoleer to almost never get hit with dizzy or KD.




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Schiller
Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:11 am
#57

Well since i am master brawler and teras kasi aswell i have some dizzy and kd defense. And the first thing i do agains ranged is delay them with warcry 2 for 20 seconds at full range. Then i do whatever i like best. Run to them and kill in melee with tk, or spam hs3 with jawa if they are buffed and wear composite. there are many things you can do within those 20 seconds



Spider-Jerusalem
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:41 am
#58

I am a Master Gunfighter with Dirty Fighting 3 (almost 4) and have just started to do PvP. Does any one have any advice as to what specials are best for PvP so I can stop getting my head handed to me? Thanks.
DigiDante
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:45 am
#59

Fanshot
Last Ditch
Low Blow
Panicshot
PistolMelee

not in that order of course, but i never use anything besides those.



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Kenth
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:55 am
#60

I usually panic shot till I get em delayed, then last ditch till I get em stunned, then lowblow the person so I can catch up to them...then I switch to TKA cause pistols just dont dish out enough damage to someone wearing armor.


If you are in a multi person battle, you would probably be best off using fanshot with a Genosian Pistol orone of the Republic Blasters(for the AR1)with the bleed on it.



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KnightHawk420
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:15 pm
#61






Kenth wrote:

I usually panic shot till I get em delayed, then last ditch till I get em stunned, then lowblow the person so I can catch up to them...then I switch to TKA cause pistols just dont dish out enough damage to someone wearing armor.


If you are in a multi person battle, you would probably be best off using fanshot with a Genosian Pistol orone of the Republic Blasters(for the AR1)with the bleed on it.





I don't always go TKA on my opponent. 80% kinetic armor as a TKA your not going to hurt them much like that either. Esepcially if it's another TKA... then your doing next to nill.



I like hover to whip out the kd/dizzy routine on someone then just last ditch them with a tangle pistol at point blank. That'll put a dent in damn near anyone.





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Marsupial-DREAD-
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:17 pm
#62

fanshot, last ditch, panic shot, lowblow, melee defense 1, bodyshot3 and bleeds are only specials on my bar.
Higginsis
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:20 pm
#63

I never use the bleeds anymore, its just not worth it.

I usually start with a panic shot, then low blow, if they don't go down try again if they're still standing i leave it and go to last ditch.

If its a tkm and i let them in ranged i always try PMD1 just see if i get lucky. Of coused when i only had pistols i never let them get in range .



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ImpDude
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:31 pm
#64

Huh...pistoleer ???? pvp ??? Wow i didnt think it was possible /endsarcasim...I have to rely on buffs (yes full buffs mind, action and health attributes too) and food stacking. Aircake with 17% dodge, synthsteak, and crispic. also use 200+ vasarian brandy with 49 filling. When in a jam (depending on which pool they are zapping you on) use neutron pixie (health and action spice) or muon gold (mind and mind attributes spice)...For specials (im near master pisoleer about 2 more days 4/0/4/3) i mostlyusestopping shot. When the odds v.s me are about 3 to 1 i use fanshot which i near about 300 dam each shot with stopping and fanshot. On the ocasional person that runs and doesnt deal out huge dam i use supression fire and walk up and pistol melee 1 then sit there and spam weak attacks such as body shot 2 and 3 which i use only when the person is non medic or not worthy of fighting. I use a technique on some people, you give them a healthshot 2 and let them heal it... then you start jumping his health with bodyshot 2...if he or she is a medic they will heal themselves totally wasting mind (sometimes they take muon) but after the mind goes down to about the 100-200's start spamming last ditch or stopping shot. If you get lucky you hit their mind and it is over with that person.



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dArt77
Mon May 10, 2004 2:59 pm
#65

I have been getting into alot of PvP lately, and have found that fencer, being how it is can take out most every profession with the right secondary profession, or by itself even. I am currently a Master Doctor& Master Fencer, and when fighting the template Master Pistoleer & BH Pistols 4 (which has become a very popular template on my server; Valcyn) even with a 42% stun helmet, when "He" (Oppenent with the above template) attempts to burst run, and kite me, with the eye shot, plain and simple I still get owned.

Any opinions on how to fight that, being that I don't have master bralwer that I do have to use Dizzy, then lunge instead of lunge to and Kding quicker......?

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