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Thread: An Apology

Aenaey
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:18 am
#53

1. Do you think Jedi should be like every other profession in terms of numbers?


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Not even close. Jedi should be capped at 1 to 2% of the total population. At that time Jedi should be unlockable. The active Jedi should be monitored at after inactivity oftwo weekstheir count should be removed from the server and more should be accepted in. If server population rises and fluxes, so should the Jedi count.


2. Do you think jedi should suffer no penalties upon death like every other profession?


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I like the current system. Skill loss at certain levels of death is a very good middle ground to both permadeath and no penalty. HOWEVER, if a player is willing to hunt a Jedi, knowing they are making them lose skills, the hunting player should also be slated with a risk that is = to the reward.


3. Do you think jedi deserve something special because of the "grind" they had to go through to get there?


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Jedi deserver something special because THEY ARE JEDI. Lets not get the base facts confused here. This is STAR WARS. Thats right... based on a movie. In the movie the main focus... in fact the only thing that seperated it from every other Space Sci-Fi was the Jedi. It is the calling card of Star Wars and its unique identifier. Yet the players want to ignore that fact, and instead have a complete balance of every profession. It isnt supposed to be that way. If you want that play a game that isnt Star Wars and a game that doesnt ahve a pre-defined class that is better than the rest. Jedi where better than the rest of the population in the galaxy.


The problem is that the Bounty Hunters have taken it upon themselves to be the self-proclaimed "cleaners of the game". The devs screwed up and have used the BH like the puppets they are to do nothing more than grief the hell outa Jedi until they reach the point of frustration and quit... now ask yourself, what kind of person requires ruining someone elses play and fun in order to enjoy themselves?


A player bounty is fine. There is no problem with that. I have always been for player bounties, not just Jedi but all players. The problem isnt the player bounties. The problem is the fact that the Bounty Hunters are intentionally out there trying to make players lose litterally months of play time... it is vile, it is evil and it is griefing. There needs to be a system in place to control the Jedi, but this certainly isnt the right one.


For you to come and blame the Jedi for playing the game he pays for... or the fact that he did unlock, is in excusable. There is no justification for griefing someone. A jedi being hard doesnt mean they should be griefed and shouldnt be able to play the game because of a piss poor designed system... and your statement was like telling a woman who just got her ass kicked by her husband that she deserved it for not having dinner made when he got home... The maturity level of the community was tested in the past 48 hours and it failed... it failed miserably.




Ae - Tarq
Jedi

The Bounty Hunter Agenda - To tattle on every Jedi for everything they do, exploit or not, in hopes to feel better about their failed lives. (Dont need a website for it)

*The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it.*
Fetei
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:21 am
#54






Ridyc wrote:

I suppose afk rooftop macroing is fair and honorable too? Man, I wish I could afk my way through investigation4.








do you have any idea how long it would take to macro to jedi master ?

you regen 1 forcepoint per second...so if you heal action each minute..you get 3600 exp per hour...WOW!

seriously that isn't even worth the power to keep your pc turned on

32.000.000/3600=8888,888 hours

wow i can be a jedi master before the 22th century!!!!


o and by the way..you guys got 3 weapontrees you can MACRO...



Dark Jedi Guardian 4444@ chimaera
Ridyc
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:26 am
#55

For you to come and blame the Jedi for playing the game he pays for... or the fact that he did unlock, is in excusable. There is no justification for griefing someone. A jedi being hard doesnt mean they should be griefed and shouldnt be able to play the game because of a piss poor designed system... and your statement was like telling a woman who just got her ass kicked by her husband that she deserved it for not having dinner made when he got home... The maturity level of the community was tested in the past 48 hours and it failed... it failed miserably.


Ok, this is getting a little out of hand for me. You guys are a little too aggressive for me here. It is just a game after all. I agree with a lot of what you said Aenaey, but I will say that Jedi already have abilities and strengths above and beyond what other professions do. A higher generation sabre has to be one of the best weapons in the game.


But, when you start talking like that above of, I have to draw the line. I think you should examine the last sentence of that statement for yourself. Goodbye.
Ridyc
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:27 am
#56


For you to come and blame the Jedi for playing the game he pays for... or the fact that he did unlock, is in excusable. There is no justification for griefing someone. A jedi being hard doesnt mean they should be griefed and shouldnt be able to play the game because of a piss poor designed system... and your statement was like telling a woman who just got her ass kicked by her husband that she deserved it for not having dinner made when he got home... The maturity level of the community was tested in the past 48 hours and it failed... it failed miserably.


Ok, this is getting a little out of hand for me. You guys are a little too aggressive for me here. It is just a game after all. I agree with a lot of what you said Aenaey, but I will say that Jedi already have abilities and strengths above and beyond what other professions do. A higher generation sabre has to be one of the best weapons in the game.


But, when you start talking like that above , I have to draw the line. I think you should examine the last sentence of that statement for yourself. Goodbye.
Netninjax
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:32 am
#57

i salute the original poster, im not going to read all the replies, but im ending my subscription if i cannot play my jedi and have to deal with this crap



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Aenaey
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:34 am
#58

I will say that Jedi already have abilities and strengths above and beyond what other professions do. A higher generation sabre has to be one of the best weapons in the game.
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Lets not even mention, no defenses at all... lets go with:


Sabers are ONLY kinetic damage. There is NO other class in the game with only 1 type of weapon attack. As such even a 1100 - 1800 saber is only really a 110 - 180 weapon vs kinetic armor (which everyone who hunts a Jedi has). That isnt one of the best weapons.


Sabers should be, hands down, the best weapon in the game. I revert back to my "This is Star Wars" argument for that.


Jedi have no ability to heal themselves without force power... and even then its not like you start with that... you need to get 1.4 million combat xp to get all the ham heals... and then you wont have the force power to use them anyway... so you need another 1.4 million to get enough force power... but then regen is broken so it doesnt work anyway... plus the heals are for about 1/4 of what a good stim-b does.


Jedi cant group with the visibility and TEF system. So its 4 on 1 or 5 on 1 or 20 on 1...


and I could go on and on and on...


I can wrap it up in:


Ignorance is bliss. You have no clue what its like to be a Jedi or what powers we have... or dont have... and what we are lacking.


Instead you spout off your little bit of garbage about how the Jedi deserved it...and how "Jedi are supposed to be hard" like every other lemming. Then when you see that you are wrong and being an ass you decide to run away, tail between the legs, shouting "i know you are but what am I" as you go...


Begone with you...






Ae - Tarq
Jedi

The Bounty Hunter Agenda - To tattle on every Jedi for everything they do, exploit or not, in hopes to feel better about their failed lives. (Dont need a website for it)

*The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it.*
RedDragon133
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:46 am
#59

@Imrahil:



/salute


ODBAltos
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:51 am
#60






Imrahil56 wrote:

I'm hoping that our BH correspondent writes an official apology on behalf of ALL BH's, but until that occurs, I'd like to apologize for wearing the same prifession tag as these A$$hole greifers that are ruining the Jedi mark system. Hopefully, anyone who partakes in clone camping and other forms of taking advantage of the bugged system will get banned, but until then, I'm officially not going to take and Jedi missions and in protest, I'm removing my profession tag until all of this sh|t stops. I know that what I'm doing means jack sh|t in practical terms, but I wanted you guys to know that there are only a relatively small number of BH's who are being the idiots. Most of us are not jerks, just like most Jedi are not jerks.


I took my 1st BH missions last night and it was a blast. I wont name names, but I killed my mark (who was a low level Jedi I think) and we had a nice chat afterwards, talking about our strategy and gear. He congratulated me and I had a great feeling about the system. This morning, I got on the boards and read about all the greifing going on and I'm disgusted.


So until the system gets fixed, /salute to all of the cool BH's and Jedi for not being a$$es. I'll see you in a few weeks when we can do this right.







100% behind you on this one mate. I posted the same yesterday, and hope the SOE can fix this, and we can have the real BH vs. Jedi as it should be. I personally will punch in a CSR ticket for everytime I see the griefing, and hope it does lead to some repurcussions. Same w/ rooftop grinding. This should be played fairly, and I hope it will be soon. I will still hunt Jedi, but I will not be grouped - BHs can be pals - but I work alone when going after a mark.





(- A L T O S -)
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Silus
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:53 am
#61






Ridyc wrote:

away our new missions because it would appear they favor jedi? I don't know. Clone camping has been around since the days of UO, its been in SWG since day one. What makes jedi so special that they should not be a part of it? The whole TEF issue?



And in almost every instance of clone camping it has been fixed or become bannable. You ask what makes jedi so special they should not be part of clone camping? Try losing all their skills along with months of progress. Losing them legitimately is one thing, losing them to griefers clone camping is another.




S'imr-le - Master Grinder
Ex-Master Smuggler, Ex-Master Marksman, Ex-Master Creature Handler, Ex-Master Commando, Ex-Master Fencer (1st Holo), Ex-Master Bio-Engineer (2nd Holo), Ex-Master Scout (3rd Holo),...lots more profs mastered, Ex-Master BH, Ex-Master Weaponsmith, Ex-Master Rifleman, Master Chef Professions Completed: 31 Remaining: 1 .... the grind is over as of 3/9/04! I finally unlocked!
lowarzek
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:57 am
#62

I think the apology would need to come from the DEV that knew about this and still went ahead with the publish. Very simple...sad but true.
enkidu2132
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:10 am
#63






Kelton_Shiv wrote:


Yeah, I'll join the BH hat in hand brigade and offer an apology on behalf of my profession.




That's great...


Hey, yesterday in Theed this MBH was spamming his wares every 15 seconds. When I logged in my screen was filled with this spam and it caused my video card to lock up. Can I get an official apology from you for that please?


Oh, and a few months ago I was griefed by this BH... he was only a novice BH but he griefed me. Can I get an apology from you on behalf of all BH's for that as well?


kthnx!


Silus
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:27 am
#64






enkidu2132 wrote:


Hey, yesterday in Theed this MBH was spamming his wares every 15 seconds. When I logged in my screen was filled with this spam and it caused my video card to lock up. Can I get an official apology from you for that please?


There's this awesome command in the game called /addignore. As for locking your video card, doubt chat spam itself did that. Maybe try upgrading.


Oh, and a few months ago I was griefed by this BH... he was only a novice BH but he griefed me. Can I get an apology from you on behalf of all BH's for that as well?


Griefed how? Report him. Do you do anything on these forums besides troll? I'm sure the griefing you think you had from a novice BH is nothing compared to that faced by those who get clone camped.









S'imr-le - Master Grinder
Ex-Master Smuggler, Ex-Master Marksman, Ex-Master Creature Handler, Ex-Master Commando, Ex-Master Fencer (1st Holo), Ex-Master Bio-Engineer (2nd Holo), Ex-Master Scout (3rd Holo),...lots more profs mastered, Ex-Master BH, Ex-Master Weaponsmith, Ex-Master Rifleman, Master Chef Professions Completed: 31 Remaining: 1 .... the grind is over as of 3/9/04! I finally unlocked!
Ridyc
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:36 am
#65

Instead you spout off your little bit of garbage about how the Jedi deserved it...and how "Jedi are supposed to be hard" like every other lemming. Then when you see that you are wrong and being an ass you decide to run away, tail between the legs, shouting "i know you are but what am I" as you go...


Begone with you...


Aenaey,


You suckered me back man, damn you're good. I decided to "run away" because of your last statement about beating women. But what erks me the most is how you talk about the maturity level of the community. I personally feel you are a great example of the maturity level of the community. I came on this board to express my opinion of a certain post, and that's all it is, my opinion. But, what's the first thing you do? Start with the name calling and bringing into question my upbringing. Did I once direct any neagtive name or phrase towards you? No, I simply expressed my opinion. You, on the other hand, resort to all sorts of negativity towards me with out knowing anything at all about me. That, to me, shows your true level of maturity. Even when I said I was through with this post you continue to call me names. Does it bother me? Hell yeah it does. You know why? Because you come off as all high and mighty spouting about this and that and how the maturity level of the community of this game has failed. You, my friend, are part of that reason. I would love to continue the discusssion of the "griefing" post with you, however, I am concerned that your only retort will be name calling and cheap propaganda to get all other jedi on your side. My post was made based on my opinion, soley. It is a shame that I cannot, in your eyes, come on this board and post my opinion without resorting to name calling and references to woman beating. So, if you are capable of continuing and intelligent conversation, please let me know and we can carrying on about all things jedi and BH.
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