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Thread: An Apology

Dethcon
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:42 am
#40

Honeslty no apology is needed. As stated above it was greivers not BH who are camping the clone center. Maybe I have just played in harsher MMOs and am a little desesitized(sp) to this whole thing anyways. If anyone out there has played Ashersons call on the Darktide server you would know what I am talking about. That was probably one of thee cruelest servers I have ever seen. Not only did you lose EXP when you got PKed but you lost items as well starting at with the most expensive and working there way down. There was no insurance either to guarantee you didn't lose you best gear either. It could be so brutal that there was a warning page that popped up every time you logged into the server telling you that it was a harshworld.



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Ridyc
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:46 am
#41

First off, let me say I do not condone the clone camping. But, as a BH, do not apologize on my behalf. Did any BH'ers read this article??? Quite frankly, the jedi got what he deserved. "Gee, I think I'll put myself on the BH missions terminals on day 1 of the new patch and see what happens." WHAT DID U THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!! Personally, I think the jedi this happened to really did not think things through. He said it was fault for the 2 deaths and I agree with him. Dev's have stated time and time again that playing as a jedi is meant to be hard. However, it would seem that every jedi out there must have skipped over those quotes a long time ago. And now BH's are sympathizing with them? Wow, this must be the beginning of the end.


Well, maybe the BH's are sympathizing with them because theyre so damn scared of the Dev team taking away our new missions because it would appear they favor jedi? I don't know. Clone camping has been around since the days of UO, its been in SWG since day one. What makes jedi so special that they should not be a part of it? The whole TEF issue? I fail to see how that's a BH's problem. There are some BH's that choose to take advantage of the situation, that's all. There are plenty of jedi that choose to take advantage of the situation too. Case in point, the jedi in that post. Heading to water so he's not attackable is taking advantage of the situation. AFK rooftop macroing, taking advantage of the situation. Where's the apology from the jedi for that? The so called "griefers" that took advantage of this situation have absolutely nothing to apologize for!!!! The system was in place for them to do what they did. I


Aenaey
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:56 am
#42


First off, let me say I do not condone the clone camping. But, as a BH, do not apologize on my behalf. Did any BH'ers read this article??? Quite frankly, the jedi got what he deserved. "Gee, I think I'll put myself on the BH missions terminals on day 1 of the new patch and see what happens." WHAT DID U THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!! Personally, I think the jedi this happened to really did not think things through. He said it was fault for the 2 deaths and I agree with him. Dev's have stated time and time again that playing as a jedi is meant to be hard. However, it would seem that every jedi out there must have skipped over those quotes a long time ago. And now BH's are sympathizing with them? Wow, this must be the beginning of the end.


The so called "griefers" that took advantage of this situation have absolutely nothing to apologize for!!!! The system was in place for them to do what they did. I


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This is one of the jackass Bounty Hunters I talked about in my last few posts... he in fact said "Jedi are meant to be hard" just like I said he would.


Here is my exact quote.. see he just couldnt resist himself. His infantile little brain just cant get beyond his self-justifiying bs:


Also I would like a self BH group beating of the jackasses that come here to our boards and thrash our Jedi. They post in the griefing threads telling Jedi to stop whining and every time try to justify themselves with "Jedi are supposed to be hard" or "We are supposed to keep the Jedi population down" or something along those lines.


There is a group of maturity inept Bounty Hunters out there that are causing the problem. Its not the corresponandts fault. I blame their upbrining. They have no concept of the real world or how things work. They have nothing more enjoyable than to ruin someone elses time and fun. They are pathetic little lemmings who leech off the bottom rung because they cannot survive on their own.


These are the people who need to be apologizing. Not the Bounty Hunters that have backbone and character.


Message Edited by Aenaey on 03-18-2004 08:57 AM



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Arthemis972
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:57 am
#43



Imrahil56 wrote:
I'm hoping that our BH correspondent writes an official apology on behalf of ALL BH's, but until that occurs, I'd like to apologize for wearing the same prifession tag as these A$$hole greifers that are ruining the Jedi mark system. Hopefully, anyone who partakes in clone camping and other forms of taking advantage of the bugged system will get banned, but until then, I'm officially not going to take and Jedi missions and in protest, I'm removing my profession tag until all of this sh|t stops. I know that what I'm doing means jack sh|t in practical terms, but I wanted you guys to know that there are only a relatively small number of BH's who are being the idiots. Most of us are not jerks, just like most Jedi are not jerks.
I took my 1st BH missions last night and it was a blast. I wont name names, but I killed my mark (who was a low level Jedi I think) and we had a nice chat afterwards, talking about our strategy and gear. He congratulated me and I had a great feeling about the system. This morning, I got on the boards and read about all the greifing going on and I'm disgusted.
So until the system gets fixed, /salute to all of the cool BH's and Jedi for not being a$$es. I'll see you in a few weeks when we can do this right.





I'm sorry, sir, but I have to say this: You are a weak minded fool. The Jedi have collectively "Mind Tricked" you into believing that BH are on a massive grief campaign to camp cloning centers. This is the bigggest fabrication I've seen in this game since Launch. The Jedi are polarizing isolated incidents to further their agenda: the removal of jedi missoins from the terminals. period.
KrisYonuel
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:00 am
#44



Ridyc wrote:

First off, let me say I do not condone the clone camping. But, as a BH, do not apologize on my behalf. Did any BH'ers read this article??? Quite frankly, the jedi got what he deserved. "Gee, I think I'll put myself on the BH missions terminals on day 1 of the new patch and see what happens." WHAT DID U THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!! Personally, I think the jedi this happened to really did not think things through. He said it was fault for the 2 deaths and I agree with him. Dev's have stated time and time again that playing as a jedi is meant to be hard. However, it would seem that every jedi out there must have skipped over those quotes a long time ago. And now BH's are sympathizing with them? Wow, this must be the beginning of the end.

Well, maybe the BH's are sympathizing with them because theyre so damn scared of the Dev team taking away our new missions because it would appear they favor jedi? I don't know. Clone camping has been around since the days of UO, its been in SWG since day one. What makes jedi so special that they should not be a part of it? The whole TEF issue? I fail to see how that's a BH's problem. There are some BH's that choose to take advantage of the situation, that's all. There are plenty of jedi that choose to take advantage of the situation too. Case in point, the jedi in that post. Heading to water so he's not attackable is taking advantage of the situation. AFK rooftop macroing, taking advantage of the situation. Where's the apology from the jedi for that? The so called "griefers" that took advantage of this situation have absolutely nothing to apologize for!!!! The system was in place for them to do what they did. I






jedi put itself on terminals? so far we dont know what we have to do to be on the terms.. so this is a dev, hey look one jedi log on, another dev "hey add him on the terms so a few bh can test this out, sure" we dont know how to be on the terms, even a few jedis who have never seen another player, another npc, are there too, do u know why we will never know how it is working, because that's plain simple as Holocrons, Garva said "its random" thats all in months of asking how did they work, a lot of players asking , well even un pub8, they wont say how it work, i can assure you they are doing it random, anyway you know what, i wish they will let this system the way it is, ill tell you, you will never hunt a jedi again, prophecy up by Apodo



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SimianHunter
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:01 am
#45



Arthemis972 wrote:


Imrahil56 wrote:
I'm hoping that our BH correspondent writes an official apology on behalf of ALL BH's, but until that occurs, I'd like to apologize for wearing the same prifession tag as these A$$hole greifers that are ruining the Jedi mark system. Hopefully, anyone who partakes in clone camping and other forms of taking advantage of the bugged system will get banned, but until then, I'm officially not going to take and Jedi missions and in protest, I'm removing my profession tag until all of this sh|t stops. I know that what I'm doing means jack sh|t in practical terms, but I wanted you guys to know that there are only a relatively small number of BH's who are being the idiots. Most of us are not jerks, just like most Jedi are not jerks.
I took my 1st BH missions last night and it was a blast. I wont name names, but I killed my mark (who was a low level Jedi I think) and we had a nice chat afterwards, talking about our strategy and gear. He congratulated me and I had a great feeling about the system. This morning, I got on the boards and read about all the greifing going on and I'm disgusted.
So until the system gets fixed, /salute to all of the cool BH's and Jedi for not being a$$es. I'll see you in a few weeks when we can do this right.





I'm sorry, sir, but I have to say this: You are a weak minded fool. The Jedi have collectively "Mind Tricked" you into believing that BH are on a massive grief campaign to camp cloning centers. This is the bigggest fabrication I've seen in this game since Launch. The Jedi are polarizing isolated incidents to further their agenda: the removal of jedi missoins from the terminals. period.




I saw no less than 40 BHs camping clone centers on Dantooine, Endor, and Dathomir last night. If someone doesn't believe it, all they have to do is go around to cloning centers and check for themselves.




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Arthemis972
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:02 am
#46



SimianHunter wrote:


Arthemis972 wrote:


Imrahil56 wrote:
I'm hoping that our BH correspondent writes an official apology on behalf of ALL BH's, but until that occurs, I'd like to apologize for wearing the same prifession tag as these A$$hole greifers that are ruining the Jedi mark system. Hopefully, anyone who partakes in clone camping and other forms of taking advantage of the bugged system will get banned, but until then, I'm officially not going to take and Jedi missions and in protest, I'm removing my profession tag until all of this sh|t stops. I know that what I'm doing means jack sh|t in practical terms, but I wanted you guys to know that there are only a relatively small number of BH's who are being the idiots. Most of us are not jerks, just like most Jedi are not jerks.
I took my 1st BH missions last night and it was a blast. I wont name names, but I killed my mark (who was a low level Jedi I think) and we had a nice chat afterwards, talking about our strategy and gear. He congratulated me and I had a great feeling about the system. This morning, I got on the boards and read about all the greifing going on and I'm disgusted.
So until the system gets fixed, /salute to all of the cool BH's and Jedi for not being a$$es. I'll see you in a few weeks when we can do this right.





I'm sorry, sir, but I have to say this: You are a weak minded fool. The Jedi have collectively "Mind Tricked" you into believing that BH are on a massive grief campaign to camp cloning centers. This is the bigggest fabrication I've seen in this game since Launch. The Jedi are polarizing isolated incidents to further their agenda: the removal of jedi missoins from the terminals. period.




I saw no less than 40 BHs camping clone centers on Dantooine, Endor, and Dathomir last night. If someone doesn't believe it, all they have to do is go around to cloning centers and check for themselves.





Ok. Please post the screen shot you must've taken of this incident.
Ridyc
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:05 am
#47

Aenaey, please desribe for me what you think the life of a jedi should be like. If you can come up with a good answer I will apologize for everything I said in my post.


I would like to know from you:


1. Do you think Jedi should be like every other profession in terms of numbers?


2. Do you think jedi should suffer no penalties upon death like every other profession?


3. Do you think jedi deserve something special because of the "grind" they had to go through to get there?


I really think you should back up your words first before you start spweing off about peoples' upbringing. That was just down right rude man. I'm just repeating what has been stated over and over again by dev members since the game's inception. By not addressing that issue the whole game will lose out man. Servers will be flooded with jedi and this game will turn into another EQ.


Now because there are people like Aenaey on these boards, I'm forced to state for the record I am BH 3/4/3/2 and I have NEVER seen a Jedi bounty come up on the BH terminals.


Aenaey
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:06 am
#48

I'm sorry, sir, but I have to say this: You are a weak minded fool. The Jedi have collectively "Mind Tricked" you into believing that BH are on a massive grief campaign to camp cloning centers. This is the bigggest fabrication I've seen in this game since Launch. The Jedi are polarizing isolated incidents to further their agenda: the removal of jedi missoins from the terminals. period.


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You need to be mind tricked into not being such an ass. Even if it is "isolated incidents" explain to me how even 10 or 20 people deserve to lose litterally MONTHS of play hours just so that Bounty Hunters can have the abilities to hunt players...


I dont want Jedi missions removed. I like the idea of a Bounty Hunter coming to his death now and again, however, the system is piss poorly implemented and a percent of the BH population have shown their true colors in this matter and shown that the BH community, as a whole, cannot handle the responsibility of player played bounties with the current system, at this time.


It is REALLY easy to sit there and point fingers and make accusations when you are not the one out there losing anything... It take too much class and too much character to care about other players, not just yourself. You obviously severly lack both of those traits.





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Jedi

The Bounty Hunter Agenda - To tattle on every Jedi for everything they do, exploit or not, in hopes to feel better about their failed lives. (Dont need a website for it)

*The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it.*
enkidu2132
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:07 am
#49






SimianHunter wrote:


I saw no less than 40 BHs camping clone centers on Dantooine, Endor, and Dathomir last night. If someone doesn't believe it, all they have to do is go around to cloning centers and check for themselves.





You saw 40 eh? Put down the crack pipe. Exaggerating and making up stuff is not going to help your case.


As far as checking the clone centers on thehunting planets - that is the first thing I did when I started reading reports about BH clone camping. I didn't see any BH's in any clone facilities on any of those planets. Occasionally I ran across someone who had just cloned. No BH's standing around though.


ThereIS an issue andthe devs are fixing it. But exaggeration and outright lying is not helping the situation -it just makes you lose credibility.
Dethcon
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:12 am
#50

I have never seen clone camping on any of the cities I have been too. I travel to alot of the cities quite a bit while PvPing and have yet to see the camped by anyone. Hell it is usually a ghost town.



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Ridyc
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:13 am
#51

SimianHunter,


I don't want to start a big arguement with you here, man, but you just gave me my quote of the year. I said, "What did he think would happen?" You replied with, "He'd be hunted by honorable players who would actually fight fair and finish their mission correctly."


HAHAHAHAA, seriously man, is this the first mmorpg you've played? Do you participate in any PvP on SWG? Fair and honorable play in PvP is a total myth, it doesn't exsist. Do you know what usually happens to the guy that tries to PvP fair and honorably? Yeah, he dies.


I suppose afk rooftop macroing is fair and honorable too? Man, I wish I could afk my way through investigation4.



Imrahil56
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:13 am
#52







I'm sorry, sir, but I have to say this: You are a weak minded fool. The Jedi have collectively "Mind Tricked" you into believing that BH are on a massive grief campaign to camp cloning centers. This is the bigggest fabrication I've seen in this game since Launch. The Jedi are polarizing isolated incidents to further their agenda: the removal of jedi missoins from the terminals. period.






Idiot. I never said that BH are on a massive campaign to camp cloning centers. I specifically said that it was a relatively small amount of people....and SOME BH's are the cause of a lot of it. That doesn't change my utter distaste for ruining what should be a fun aspect of the game.


As a BH who does not get involved in the GCW, I was looking forward to Jedi bounties for the intense PvP action. If this keeps up, not only will we NEVER get player bounties (other than Jedi), we may not even be able to keep the Jedi bounties. :/



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