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Thread: FIRE SPRAY : Devs your ruining continuty (again).. Proof the Firespray is rare and extinct..

DDoubleD
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:05 pm
#40

lol i just saw it floating around me (me not knowing what it was)thought it was a neutral ship and i stated fireing at it then i relized i cant HIT THE DAMM THING then i find out now just what the thing was lol



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DarthMinos
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:11 pm
#41

Well, I haven't even seen screen shots of any Mandalorian armor that made it competitive with the best composite, so I don't think it'll be that common.


Didn't they just make the Firespray a Neutral only ship? If that is the case, that will also limit its use.


Personally, I don't see this as a problem. The Devs found a good way to bring the ship back into the game without making it too common. If we are going to be slaves to continuity in JTL, then we need to pare down the ship list to about five available ships for players. I don't think anyone wants that. If you are going to insist that the Firespray be removed as a player ship for continuity sake, then you have to remove the A-Wing, B-Wing, TIE Interceptor, TIE Advanced, TIE Opressor, TIE Agressor, and all the Hutt craft because they did not exist in this time period. You can't disallow one thing for continuity sake, and then allow all the others. I want to see those other ships in the game, andI have no problem with the Firespray.


I'm about as big a Star Wars fan as it comes, and I don't have a problem with this.



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Cuality
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 pm
#42






shakaan wrote:

im for restricting the yt to smugglers...even at master box. i like to see different styles and not everyone with any proffession or pilot trees using the same ships.


The Yt-1300 is a freighter... used by honest merchants everywhere.


and the firspray was the only and last ship in the movies ...same the jetpacks and mano armor.


honestly did not get this sentence. Are you referring to the last ship seen in the movies that wasn't seen before? or were you referring to the fact that the slave 1 is the last of its kind? They have already went ahead and wrote in a decent backstory for it... KSE (the people who built and designed the ship) decided to rework it and re-tool it. Nothing continuity breaking there... in fact it makes sense... sellling a ship that a glalaxy-wide known bounty hunter flies would definitely boost sales. The jetpack was not the last one... ever... it's a jetpack... do you think they stopped making them because only fett had one? they have hyperspace craft... why would they not have more jetpacks. Mando armor... yes, you have a point on that one, and the death watch story is pretty thin. But there are other suits out their, jodo kast is one, admiral thrawn has another set. they are rare but collectors can still get the peices of the various suits... and it is still rare enough in game to support this.


its stupid to say the lightsaber is a jedi weapon. everyone could use it in fact same with jetpacks and manda armor but in the movies only the last jedis used it and same with firespray / mando armor / jetpack and the fetts. its a unique thing what is even worse than a simple lightsaber which were more often to see as fetts equipment.


The fetts did not own the right to mando armor, nor jetpacks, nor the Firespray. There are other suits out there and the fact that it is hell to get basically backs it up. There is still not a full suit on any server, the closest anyone has come is 2 peices. The jetpack was used by other people in the EU (not the movies... but i only saw one DL-44... guess that's a master smuggler weapon too)The Firespray was owned and built by KSE... whos to say they didn't start making more? Heck, the devs wrote it in their description.


but im sure you got the point and are just afraid that im right and you are wrong.

dont worry its not important for SOE whois wrong or right... its just the money and it helps to collect more money when everyone can become the unique and most iconic stuff like jedis and fetts gear. thats sad but true.


yes... you are right... /rollseyes... what is with BHs all being elitists? They think that they are all special and they all deserve things that no other class deserves. I don't hear any other class except for BH complain about people taking their stuff... either because they deserve it more or because "the fetts did it"


greets shakan


im tired of all the lies and arguementsof people who are no real star wars fans but do like they are. why you people dont go to EQ there is nothing you can destroy by your demands because the history is not already written... its a game you can customize as much as you want without destroying something like the saga of star wars.


/hi. welcome to a game.a game about a make believe galaxy. with make believe characters and make believe ships. I am a star wars fan as well, i own every single FICTION peice written, i own comics, books, the essential guides and such, i have posters, a few figurines and own every Star Wars game ever made, but i guess that doesn't make me a fan such as yourself, elitism at its best, you are better than everyone else because you are a "more" hardcore fan than anyone else... but i am able to look beyond the petty things and am able to focus on having fun ingame...












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shakaan
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:31 pm
#43


no just the helmet...but its harder to get itthan to level till knight these days cause of the target not online exploit. and yes we bounty hunters and specially master bounty hunters who have the hardest job ingame and do something good for the game AND continuity deserve different equipment and stuff to compete against the most fixed and supported prof.


its a very uneven fight you know most nerfed prof(BH)...well ok after CH against most enhanced prof(Jedi) ...its also the only prof who can use exploits or cheats without getting banned which speaks for itself.


if you think we are not something special then try to master bh get the mando helmet and jetpack and kill and griefe as many jedi (also knights) as i did for such a low reward and all the ganking.


think before youspeak fool... and i would have no problem if mando and jetpack would get completly deleted from game when there also would be no player jedi...but since there are masses of them and only a few people with that mando gear i think its more a joke isnt it?




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Jedi Kill Count : 19 kills / 15 griefes


***may the exploit be with you jedi ... not always***

Message Edited by shakaan on 10-23-2004 11:41 PM

Cuality
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:54 pm
#44






shakaan wrote:


no just the helmet...but its harder to get itthan to level till knight these days cause of the target not online exploit. and yes we bounty hunters and specially master bounty hunters who have the hardest job ingame and do something good for the game AND continuity deserve different equipment and stuff to compete against the most fixed and supported prof.


Not really. All you need is a solid group of about 15 or so and you can roll through it easily enough. I would know, my guild did this. Again with the elitism though... almost bordering on kluxxer strength here. I was a master BH... i dropped it to go back to my favorite profession... commando. I am now a dabbler in BH (3-0-4-0) and you no doubt feel like i am sullying your profession. Your job is NOT the hardest in game... leveling jedi is by far harder than a BH of any strength. You are not guardians against continuity, the devs are.


its a very uneven fight you know most nerfed prof(BH)...well ok after CH against most enhanced prof(Jedi) ...its also the only prof who can use exploits or cheats without getting banned which speaks for itself.


Nah... BH was actually fixed with the skill reduction. Now you can augment your skills. In fact... the only nerfs you have had were... KD nerfs (which affected pistol and carbine). In fact... commando, pistoleer, smuggler, CH, carbineer are far more nerfed than your profession ever was.


if you think we are not something special then try to master bh get the mando helmet and jetpack and kill and griefe as many jedi (also knights) as i did for such a low reward and all the ganking.


i have mastered BH... i have a mando helmet (my guilds) and i have a jetpack... i have killed a total of 46 jedi... 16 on my own 30 with other people. 35 of those kills were all done for the 15k reward.


think before youspeak fool... and i would have no problem if mando and jetpack would get completly deleted from game when there also would be no player jedi...but since there are masses of them and only a few people with that mando gear i think its more a joke isnt it?


so your arguement for the break of continuity is that since the jedi are breaking continuity... its ok to do it yourself?




shakan

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Jedi Kill Count : 19 kills / 15 griefes


***may the exploit be with you jedi ... not always***

Message Edited by shakaan on 10-23-2004 11:41 PM









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Puck_Starfire
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:57 pm
#45

And crap like this is why I quit BH. /sigh

Firespray - IS NOT a BH ship. In fact, the ONLY BH to have one were the Fett's, and only because they STOLE it. Saying the Firespray is a BH ship is like saying the X-Wing is a Jedi ship.

Lightsabers - took many years of practice to become proficient in. On top of this, there were 7 forms of lightsaber combat I believe. (ie. Obi-Wan was a Form 1 Lightsaber Combatant, Mace was a Form 6) Further, double-bladed lightsabers were ONLY used by the Sith. So not everyone can just pick one up and go to town with one.

Mando Armor - as was stated before, this was the armor of the Mandalorians, who were warriors and hunters, not Bounty Hunters. To say this is a BH armor only is ridiculous.

Jet Packs - if only BH's use them, then why do Dark Troopers use them? How about Zero-Troopers?

Knowing Star Wars is more than watching the movies. The movies only get into a very small slice of the Star Wars Universe.

Message Edited by Puck_Starfire on 10-24-2004 02:59 AM

Massadonious
Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:07 am
#46

I've said this on the BH boards (being a former BH myself) and I'll say it here.


The B-Wing wasent introduced until before ROTJ.


Rebels outnumber Imperials on most servers. Futhermore, the Empire was predjudice to nearly all species minus human.


Chewbacca is supposed to be tall and big. Han Solo is supposed to look like....well, Han Solo.


There arefreaking Jedieverywhere!!!


....


Continuinty means jack. Get over it people. There will never be a profession specific ship anyhow.



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mkummer
Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:17 am
#47

just stop talking about it we are not in StarWars universe anymore, it must be a StarTrek type parallel univesre. There are maybe just as much Firesprays as there are Jedis at this time, and we have 1000 of jedi now...





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LordReaver
Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:59 am
#48



Star Wars is NOT your dream, it is GL's dream, so stop trying to make it your dream. If GL passes it, thenit is it, and thats it! Secondly, this game was NOT designed for you hardcore gaming nerds that have never had a girlfriend and probably never will. It was designed for everybody. The game would be rated E for everybody if it wern't online. It is rated T for teen simply because they can't predict what people will say and do.


  • Jedi - Some people think that there should be no jedi and would rather not have any jedi in the game. What those people don't realize is that there are people just opposite that, that would like to be a jedi and not have to work their butts off just for a game.

  • Lightsabers - In order to craft a lightsaber you must have the force or something. People who arn't force sensitive can't craft them. Think of Jedi Academy when only your character was able to craft a lightsaber before they were trained in how to use the force.

  • Firespray - Some people think it should be rare, well aperantly these people didn't read what the Devs wrote on why its playable or they would know that THEY JUST MADE IT CONTINUITY YOU STUPID MOTHER *CENSOR*!!!

All I have to say is, "If you don't like the game, then leave. We don't want to hear your complaints about how you want the game to fit yourself and not everybody else, or at least I don't, because I at least have the decency to say that I do not speak for everybody!"

Message Edited by LordReaver on 10-24-2004 03:02 AM





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Jarkovi
Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:18 am
#49






LordReaver wrote:



Star Wars is NOT your dream, it is GL's dream, so stop trying to make it your dream. If GL passes it, thenit is it, and thats it! Secondly, this game was NOT designed for you hardcore gaming nerds that have never had a girlfriend and probably never will. It was designed for everybody. The game would be rated E for everybody if it wern't online. It is rated T for teen simply because they can't predict what people will say and do.


  • Jedi - Some people think that there should be no jedi and would rather not have any jedi in the game. What those people don't realize is that there are people just opposite that, that would like to be a jedi and not have to work their butts off just for a game.

  • Lightsabers - In order to craft a lightsaber you must have the force or something. People who arn't force sensitive can't craft them. Think of Jedi Academy when only your character was able to craft a lightsaber before they were trained in how to use the force.

  • Firespray - Some people think it should be rare, well aperantly these people didn't read what the Devs wrote on why its playable or they would know that THEY JUST MADE IT CONTINUITY YOU STUPID MOTHER *CENSOR*!!!

All I have to say is, "If you don't like the game, then leave. We don't want to hear your complaints about how you want the game to fit yourself and not everybody else, or at least I don't, because I at least have the decency to say that I do not speak for everybody!"


Message Edited by LordReaver on 10-24-2004 03:02 AM





I bet George Lucas doesn't even play this game! If we were to find out his opinion on SW and compair it to this game, well, what do you think he would say?

LordReaver
Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:27 am
#50

I bet he doesn't even care, because if he did, he wouldn't have sent Haden Blackman to do the SWG: JTL introduction thingy.





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Jarkovi
Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:32 am
#51

^^^


Yep...
shakaan
Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:49 am
#52

i read an article where lucasarts ...not GL was very unpleased with SOE of handling SWG. thats why they work with EA Games in Japan together.


i wish we could also choose to play the EA variante but the SOE variante whatever some people may say im sure it cant be worse.


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