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Thread: JTL The Straw That Broke the Guilds Back

Amuro0079
Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:57 pm
#40







concreteman wrote:

I Do Not think it's right for the game to force you to group to get your lvls as pilot. But that is what this game is doing! As a shipwright I'm going thru each lvl on my own and think you should be able to as a pilot. I have gone thru 3 ship so far trying to complete a 3rd tier mission and have gained enough xp's for over 3 boxes of training. I can not get training till I complete the mission but I see that there is NO! way in doing that without grouping. Proggression lvls should be done solo and content should or could be group. As one said in a post his guild does all thier lvling together to me thats not doing the mission it's having someone else doing it for you. I'm sorry if I make someone mad but thats how I feel. And that is most likely why the mission are the way they are groups lvling each others. I too will be looking for another game that is Not made for groups because I have seen this happen in other games sart out great as in the ground game then fell apart as it's doing in jtls. The ground game is dying due to jtls and jtls will follow if the devs. does do something about solo lvling.




Exatly, right now it's having someone else to do your hard missions. In one of the Tier 4 mission,I had twofriends helping me and theyasked me not toattack the gunboat or it's escorts till they nailed at least 3 of the gunboat's 6 guns, cause if I died, the mission would fail. So I watched themdieandcome back anddie.

Message Edited by Amuro0079 on 11-22-2004 01:16 PM



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Polovnik
Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:17 pm
#41

lol www.pwned.nl lol so true.


I have not yet found this game to be boring and didn't find anything wrong even with the bugs that came my way. I just found ways around them and no Not using hacks just doing what i'm supposed to do by getting items for the quests/missions and /bug. O and for the solo people who just love crying and whinning (If at first you dont suceed try try again or group up with a friend). lol well leaving for another mmorg well thats your idea and just dont waste your money then cry that your broke on this forum lol Have fun and since I dont know you I wont miss you. And yes I know these forums have people that love to insult each other for the fun of it. I come here to see whats new and what people are thinking and ask for help (Which i sometimes get).



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Liamo
Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:11 am
#42






Massadonious wrote:






Liamo wrote:





Ranxacka wrote:

/checking in to see posts

Yep, just as I thought. Nerds that got beat up in high school and got their lunch money taken & Geeks that dressed up as Ben Kenobi when the Star Wars Trilogy got released on DVD and stood in line for 6 hours just to do a /first at Best Buy. Last person to post here gets my stuff.


Fruitcakes.






Of course, not to be confused with asses like you that dress up as their favorite sport here or Rap star and probably still play/or will play sports YEARS after being a washed up has-been.





Now I'm not agreeing with the orignal poster here, but I fail to see how this is an insult.


Sports > Star Wars....even though I am a geek. A geek that was the starting running back in HS.


BTW, even washed up has-been's usually make 500k-1mil a year playing professionally.


Edit: rofl...4 stars? Did your finger slip or something?

Message Edited by Massadonious on 11-21-2004 05:41 AM




I meant the 40ish guiys that NEVER played professionally, still trying to relive their glory days by acting like a super jock and running around wearing a football jersey or whatever to make them feel important.


I, personally, fell somewhere in between the geek and jock-played Soccer and Baseball-did ok but all the other jocks, turning their back on Star Wars, gave me all their colectables.


I feel it's the same thing-we're fanboys living in the past about different things. I don't think Star Wars is greater than sport or vice versa. Do to SWG-Faces and see how few dorks actually play this game and like Star Wars.


Either way, no difference in dressing up like a Jedi or a Sports Hero-chances are, you won't be either.





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DingoBoi
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:02 am
#43

One of your original points was that once you master, there is nothing to do, so most of your 'guild' quit.


Then you go on to say that because it's difficult and your can't rush easily to master, that you are quitting..


Which is it? Does anybody else see the irony?



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vampari
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:10 am
#44

Died many times but soloed all but master and 4444 of storm squadron.

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Notch13
Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:40 am
#45

Cool how long until you get bored of WoW and quit that for the new mmo of the month? The grass is always greener and all...
lisasdarren
Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:44 am
#46






DingoBoi wrote:

One of your original points was that once you master, there is nothing to do, so most of your 'guild' quit.


Then you go on to say that because it's difficult and your can't rush easily to master, that you are quitting..


Which is it? Does anybody else see the irony?





Oh yes...


Been trying to point this out to the "i want to rush to master crowd" and the "I mastered in 2 days and there is no content crowd", but they just don't listen


I'll try once more with a simple statement -


The process of reaching master is the game, once you have reached master the "organised" story finishes and you are on your own. There is little content for masters because once you hit master you should know the game well enough to make your own content.




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Aden_Nak
Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:48 am
#47



Yeevle wrote:
Will you quit WoW when you get owned in that as well?





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Yaras_Dar
Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:22 am
#48

In many ways, JTL has made my PA [i]stronger[/i] because we learned that we HAD to group in order to beat the higher tiered missions.

After several months of folks soloing in the hologrind, we are finally grouping again, working together as a team, and having fun together. Higher ranked Pilots are coming down to the lower tiered missions to help out squadies. We are becoming a mutually-supporting family again and I, for one, couldn't be happier about this.

This is what it means to be in a PA or guild.

Ranxacka, if you have a hard time understanding this, I can understand your frustration.



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MadLister
Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:46 am
#49

If at first you don't succeed - run away crying.


Seems to be the M.O. lately.


Let the chirren run away, and go get bored with their new toys in another month or so. We won't really miss them.


Just wish they'd stop posting about their own personal exodus, like we - the community at large - really care.







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TulasiKid
Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:00 am
#50

Somebody help me out here, but what is this preoccupation with WoW about? All I know from looking at the website and the box in the store is that it's another swords and sorcery MMO. I don't want to play that kind of game. I want to be in space. I want to play Star Wars, not Dorks & Dragons.


Because SWG is about Star Wars, they can't just make up everything out of whole cloth like you could with a game not based on an established canon. This means that stuff takes time to produce and might need several revisions to get right. People will complain if a-wings are too slow or tie interceptors are too fast. (Witness the whole ties-don't-have-hyperdrives-or-shields debate) In WoW, you can make a Level 20 Booger-slinging Siege Machine as powerful as you want because it's just new, made-up stuff.


I'm sticking with SWG. If you want to slay goblins and orcs, drink ale and cast spells from your magic unicorn, go get busy, brother.


Meanwhile, I'm gonna blow up some Imperial space stations.



Tulasi Kid
BeepBlop
Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:38 am
#51



MadLister wrote:
If at first you don't succeed - run away crying.
Seems to be the M.O. lately.
Let the chirren run away, and go get bored with their new toys in another month or so. We won't really miss them.
Just wish they'd stop posting about their own personal exodus, like we - the community at large - really care.





/agree



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MadLister
Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:12 am
#52

Right on!


Already been one-starred.


Must've touched a nerve.



Now if we could just get the "I want to solo everything in the game and be ubergodmode!" kiddies to take the AFK spammers along with them, this game would be just about right.



*braces for the inevitable shock of another life-shattering one-star rating!*










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