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Thread: JTL The Straw That Broke the Guilds Back
Ranxacka wrote:
Next thing you know the ship is flying right into a crapload of Tier 4 X-Wings plus the fighters that are scrambled to intercept us. Needless to say we get owned, frustrated and a big fat mission failure for our troubles. My guildmate and I realise that this sucks.about 1.5 hours of work down the drain. Tonight we both decide to quit for good and will be moving to WoW on Tuesday with the rest of our previous guild. So our new guild of 21 members will be disbanded because we are the guild leaders. That's twice a guild has been disbanded in this game due to game mechanics...............
player2005 wrote:
.... The difference is many people don't like the idea, this is what I said. ......
Ranxacka,
I'm sorry that I'm fortunate to be in a great guild, with helpfull people who are my friends that I've made in the game. I'm sorry that because of that fact, we all help each otherEVEN if there isn't anything in it in the end other that the satifaction that you helped a friend.
One of the problems it seem (since you said this is the second guild that's failed you) is that you either: 1) Have poor taste in what guilds you join 2) Poor judgement in the people you accept into your guild if you are the leader of one3) You just have a poor server community or 4) A good mix of 1, 2, and 3.
/sigh
Ranxacka,
I'm sorry that I'm fortunate to be in a great guild, with helpfull people who are my friends that I've made in the game. I'm sorry that because of that fact, we all help each otherEVEN if there isn't anything in it in the end other that the satifaction that you helped a friend.
One of the problems it seem (since you said this is the second guild that's failed you) is that you either: 1) Have poor taste in what guilds you join 2) Poor judgement in the people you accept into your guild if you are the leader of one3) You just have a poor server community or 4) A good mix of 1, 2, and 3.
I never said my guild failed me, you're making assumptions. I said that in my first guild everyone quit because there was nothing to do after you maxed out. This was 6 months after launch. To me, SOE failed the vast majority of players and my guild in the first year of the game. SOE thought that the hype of "Star Wars" would beenough for the gamingcommunity and they weresadly mistaken. And to clarify the issue with my current guild 3 of us are from the US, the other 18 are from Europe. They didn't even get JTL in stores until November 12th. The problem is unless you are in a power guild with lots of players you are basically banging your head ona brick wall trying to finish the missions in JTL.
Ranxacka wrote:
/sigh
Ranxacka,
I'm sorry that I'm fortunate to be in a great guild, with helpfull people who are my friends that I've made in the game. I'm sorry that because of that fact, we all help each otherEVEN if there isn't anything in it in the end other that the satifaction that you helped a friend.
One of the problems it seem (since you said this is the second guild that's failed you) is that you either: 1) Have poor taste in what guilds you join 2) Poor judgement in the people you accept into your guild if you are the leader of one3) You just have a poor server community or 4) A good mix of 1, 2, and 3.
I never said my guild failed me, you're making assumptions. I said that in my first guild everyone quit because there was nothing to do after you maxed out. This was 6 months after launch. To me, SOE failed the vast majority of players and my guild in the first year of the game. SOE thought that the hype of "Star Wars" would beenough for the gamingcommunity and they weresadly mistaken. And to clarify the issue with my current guild 3 of us are from the US, the other 18 are from Europe. They didn't even get JTL in stores until November 12th. The problem is unless you are in a power guild with lots of players you are basically banging your head ona brick wall trying to finish the missions in JTL.
not really. i soloed my missions with the exception of the corvette (which took 3 of us) and died only once during a mission. Everyone else in my guild that has finished with pilot has done so with 1 or 2 people. i know a lot of servers have master pilots that have found that it is boring at master and will take people through their missions, ahazi has about 5 master pilots of each profession that the only thing they do is help people level.
make a friend. i'm sure even an antisocial player like yourself could find someone to hold your hand through the missions.
Cuality wrote:
not really. i soloed my missions with the exception of the corvette (which took 3 of us) and died only once during a mission. Everyone else in my guild that has finished with pilot has done so with 1 or 2 people. i know a lot of servers have master pilots that have found that it is boring at master and will take people through their missions, ahazi has about 5 master pilots of each profession that the only thing they do is help people level.
make a friend. i'm sure even an antisocial player like yourself could find someone to hold your hand through the missions.
Message Edited by Ranxacka on 11-21-2004 10:02 PM
Ranxacka wrote:
Cuality wrote:
not really. i soloed my missions with the exception of the corvette (which took 3 of us) and died only once during a mission. Everyone else in my guild that has finished with pilot has done so with 1 or 2 people. i know a lot of servers have master pilots that have found that it is boring at master and will take people through their missions, ahazi has about 5 master pilots of each profession that the only thing they do is help people level.
make a friend. i'm sure even an antisocial player like yourself could find someone to hold your hand through the missions.
My original intention was to reply to that but then that would almost constitute arguing on the internet. I'll just sum it up by saying, you're acting like a bi0tch. Good thing is I'll be moving on to a game with a new bunch of asses because the asses here suck.
Message Edited by Ranxacka on 11-21-2004 10:02 PM
so by not replying... you are replying about not replying? i didn't even flame you and you backed out with a backhand insult that isn't even worth typing... much as you did with this game, be presented with a challenge and you back out, stating you can find an easier challenge elsewhere. well, cya, bye, i'm sure no one here will miss you, since you obviously couldn't make any friends that care.
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Ranxacka wrote:
Cuality wrote:
not really. i soloed my missions with the exception of the corvette (which took 3 of us) and died only once during a mission. Everyone else in my guild that has finished with pilot has done so with 1 or 2 people. i know a lot of servers have master pilots that have found that it is boring at master and will take people through their missions, ahazi has about 5 master pilots of each profession that the only thing they do is help people level.
make a friend. i'm sure even an antisocial player like yourself could find someone to hold your hand through the missions.
My original intention was to reply to that but then that would almost constitute arguing on the internet. I'll just sum it up by saying, you're acting like a bi0tch. Good thing is I'll be moving on to a game with a new bunch of asses because the asses here suck.
Message Edited by Ranxacka on 11-21-2004 10:02 PM
Well, good luck with ....um...playing with the other asses?
See, that's why those missions should not require grouping. Because it's your personalmission which you need to do it to advance. Right now, you group with people because some of the missions are too difficult to solo, do you really group becausedoing so ismore fun and rewarding? I don't think so. And when I say reward, I mean if we all take the same mission, that is if we're at the same level and following the same pilot profession path, then we only need to take it once and everyone in the group should get a mission sucess. Right now, it doesn't work. If we all take the same mission, say 5 people, then we'll end up with 5 gunboats to kill at the waypoint. So we have to do the same stupid mission5 times to get it over with. XP as rewards? Give me a break, sometiems you don't get any becuase you're capped. Loot? Only the person that did most damage get the loot. And tell me, why should I help you for your personal mission? What's the piont? MMO game does not suggest you must play with others at all times.Thisis not a team or co-opgame for crying out loud. And there're people playing at odd hours when the server is very empty, so where the hell are they supposed to find friends to group with? Not everyone lives inNorth Americaor Europe.
Feyd-Rautha_Harkonnen wrote:
Of course the mission should fail if the person who took it died. You are the one given the task by the NPC not you're team mates. Its a personal mission given to YOU. No group reward? lol. Well I think the fact that countless ships are spawning on other peoples mission and I need like 8million xp is reward enough. You get credits and loot for kills. What more do you want? Buffs and free ID session?
I really think people are missing the point. For month people moaned about how they had nothing to do and that the economy was run by the rich for the rich and in many cases the game was played as a solo experiance. Well along comes JTL and guess what?! you get a chance to play with others, make new friends and expand you're skills by playing with others. And the end result has been a bunch of dull people making really dull and childish comments about not being able to solo. If you want to solo something go play another game. Massive Multiplayer games to me suggests that you play with others and work on things together. I mean if you cant stand the fact that you have to actually group then really you may as well quit JTL altogether because there is no way in hell you can get by otherwise.
Message Edited by Amuro0079 on 11-22-2004 01:06 PM
Ranxacka wrote:
My original intention was to reply to that but then that would almost constitute arguing on the internet. I'll just sum it up by saying, you're acting like a bi0tch. Good thing is I'll be moving on to a game with a new bunch of asses because the asses here suck.
Message Edited by Ranxacka on 11-21-2004 10:02 PM