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Thread: A-Wings... kinda suck.

Wili
Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:32 pm
#27

isn't the tie advanced even smaller than an a-wing?





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ROBO1964
Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:57 pm
#28

The A wing is best for PvP because its fast and tight turns so hard to hit and sotinyits hard to even see till too late.


So the A-wing may not be the best option for Tier 4 PvE. Surprisingly the best ship for Tier 4+ PvE is the Y-wing Longprobe. You can pack it with lvl 8 stuff and kickbutt and be hard to hurt with lvl 8 shields and heavy armor. Its your Tank. The X-wing is in between. Faster and more agile than Longprobe but not as fast and agile as A-wing with not as muich fire power as longprobe but higher than A-wing. The X-wing might also be good for PvP due to power of weapons over A-wing.


As a side note either by bug or more likley design. Since last patch the 92.2 engine is no long available.
ochad
Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:36 am
#29

The "speed" isn't what makes the A-Wing a viable option. It is the speed you can turn at. Sure my A-wing only goes about 50 faster than the X, but my ideal turn rate is 750 compared to about 400 in the X.


You can hang with enemies and evade them much easier. Once you take into the affect of the A-Wings small target it really starts to shine.



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Flynn_Nomad
Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:43 am
#30

Also, the A-Wing provides less of a surface to impact, supposedly.

How precise is the laser bolt-chassis collision system?

I mean is it possible to miss a ship by "inches"?

Or does the game draw a general rectangle or somthing around the ship's graphic and if you hit within it, it registers as a hit?



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truewildman
Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:49 am
#31






Flynn_Nomad wrote:
Also, the A-Wing provides less of a surface to impact, supposedly.

How precise is the laser bolt-chassis collision system?

I mean is it possible to miss a ship by "inches"?

Or does the game draw a general rectangle or somthing around the ship's graphic and if you hit within it, it registers as a hit?





Yes, it is. In my own experience, you have to be much more accurate to hit that sucker.





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Flynn_Nomad
Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:56 am
#32





How precise is the laser bolt-chassis collision system?

I mean is it possible to miss a ship by "inches"?

Or does the game draw a general rectangle or somthing around the ship's graphic and if you hit within it, it registers as a hit?


So, is technically harder to hit an A Wing?


I always wonder about the collision system cause it doesnt look like my shots are travelling between the wings and above the pod of a tie fighter.


It looks to me like "close counts"




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Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've
seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me
believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's
no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.
Azino
Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:12 am
#33

I have to agree with you. I've spent a lot of time in my A-Wing and X-Wing (I've mastered) and the X-Wing is far superioer. The A-Wing is only marginally faster but does turn much better, however the low mass means that the A-Wing can't carry a decent weapon to punch with and so it takes ages to solo a tier 5. I'mconsidering removing it's armour and other non-essentials to see if I can get a decent gun on it. I was surprised to find that the A-Wing is one of the slowest ships out there when compared to NPCs like droids and imperials, despite my 92+ engine.




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St1lgar
Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:04 am
#34






Azino wrote:

I have to agree with you. I've spent a lot of time in my A-Wing and X-Wing (I've mastered) and the X-Wing is far superioer. The A-Wing is only marginally faster but does turn much better, however the low mass means that the A-Wing can't carry a decent weapon to punch with and so it takes ages to solo a tier 5. I'mconsidering removing it's armour and other non-essentials to see if I can get a decent gun on it. I was surprised to find that the A-Wing is one of the slowest ships out there when compared to NPCs like droids and imperials, despite my 92+ engine.






This is my A-Wing and i am pretty sure its not the best one... still worked on this one over a week now (and the setup is still not done)


Reactor: 2k Mass 13,5k Energy (RE'ed)


Engine:9.6k Mass 96 top speed (RE'ed)


Shield: 16k Mass 1600 front /rear 11.21 Recharge


Front Armor: Mark 3 Durasteel4,8k Mass


Rear Armor: Mark 2 Duarasteel 2k Mass


Capacitor: 1.6k Mass 860 Energy 38.7 Recharge (RE'ed)


Booster: 3k Mass, 2k Booster Energy, 51 recharge and topspeed 26 (RE'ed)


Droid Interface: 500 mass, 14 droid command speed (not RE'ed becaue ...)


Weapon: 16k Mass, 2.6k Damage, 0.6 piericing to both , refire rate 340, 27.1 Energy/Shot ( not RE'ed yet)


Ordenance : Mark III Concussion Launcher with 5.5k Mass


Countermeasure : Mark I Chaff Launcher with 1.1k Mass


Additional Droid Commands installed from other factions are: Engine Overlaod 3, Weapon Overload 3 and Reactor Overload 1 (cause that was already enough to make my ship fully operational... the reactor overload 1 i mean hehe)


And after putting so much work in this thing (and still not finshed) i started loving my A-Wing haha And trust me when i see Tier 5 spawns in Kessel or Deep Space i just fly in and rip one after the other without getting a scratch...

Flynn_Nomad
Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:25 am
#35






St1lgar wrote:





Azino wrote:

I have to agree with you. I've spent a lot of time in my A-Wing and X-Wing (I've mastered) and the X-Wing is far superioer. The A-Wing is only marginally faster but does turn much better, however the low mass means that the A-Wing can't carry a decent weapon to punch with and so it takes ages to solo a tier 5. I'mconsidering removing it's armour and other non-essentials to see if I can get a decent gun on it. I was surprised to find that the A-Wing is one of the slowest ships out there when compared to NPCs like droids and imperials, despite my 92+ engine.






This is my A-Wing and i am pretty sure its not the best one... still worked on this one over a week now (and the setup is still not done)


Reactor: 2k Mass 13,5k Energy (RE'ed)


Engine:9.6k Mass 96 top speed (RE'ed)


Shield: 16k Mass 1600 front /rear 11.21 Recharge


(you dont need a sheild that good if you're real fast! I use a 7k mass, 8 recharge with like 1300 front rear)


Front Armor: Mark 3 Durasteel4,8k Mass


Rear Armor: Mark 2 Duarasteel 2k Mass


Capacitor: 1.6k Mass 860 Energy 38.7 Recharge (RE'ed)


Booster: 3k Mass, 2k Booster Energy, 51 recharge and topspeed 26 (RE'ed)


Droid Interface: 500 mass, 14 droid command speed (not RE'ed becaue ...)


Weapon: 16k Mass, 2.6k Damage, 0.6 piericing to both , refire rate 340, 27.1 Energy/Shot ( not RE'ed yet)


Ordenance : Mark III Concussion Launcher with 5.5k Mass


Countermeasure : Mark I Chaff Launcher with 1.1k Mass


Additional Droid Commands installed from other factions are: Engine Overlaod 3, Weapon Overload 3 and Reactor Overload 1 (cause that was already enough to make my ship fully operational... the reactor overload 1 i mean hehe)


And after putting so much work in this thing (and still not finshed) i started loving my A-Wing haha And trust me when i see Tier 5 spawns in Kessel or Deep Space i just fly in and rip one after the other without getting a scratch...






Sounds sweet!



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Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've
seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me
believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's
no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.
aBloodyBody
Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:29 am
#36




Faster than a speeding bullet ... more powerful than a locomotive ... able to leap tall buildings in a single bound... yes, these are some of Chuck Norris's warm-up exercises.
Selenim
Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:16 am
#37






truewildman wrote:

RE, RE, RE!! That will save you a bunch of mass!! If you RE'd your parts and didn't get what you wanted, RE some more! I have a friend that has all hard points loaded, a 97 speed engine, and an imperial chip in his droid. His cruise speed is 1200, 1500 with boost, and optimum turning speed is 1002.


He's untouchable! The Awing can be pretty awesome if you do it right.







Exactly, once you gotsome nice REed equipment, the A-wing can become a monster!


Really, i prefer 10 times my A-wingto my X-wing, even in firepower i don't find it lacking...i use the incom tri-cannon reward weapon (2.3k-3.6k damage, 38k mass) and weapon overload 3, i can blow up a tier4 TIE fighter in about 3-4 shots...


But the most awesome thing about the A-wing is to havethe top maneuvrability speed at 80% of max speed compared to only 40% with the X-wing.







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ROBO1964
Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:01 am
#38



I wasn't too impressed by the reports of the A-wing.....that was until tonight so I decided to post here.


I had been trying to do the first Tier 4 Mission and being unable to do complete it and being lucky to get by the first part. Tonight a guild member who is an Ace agreed to help me. I show up in my X wing all decked out in mass weapons. He shows up in his little A-wing. I was kinda surprised and hoped he wouldn't die as there are around 10 ships attacking in the first part and the same in the second part. So he said lead me to them. So we get there and the battle starts. He blew past me like I was standing still and he was getting on the tails of 2 or 3 ships and blasting the hell outta them with 1 lvl 7 Blaster made by the same person who made my 3 on my X wing. I killed like 4 ships and he destroyed the other 16.

One time I started chasing 2 enemy ships and he blew past me caught up to them and blew them both up before they could circle around for another pass at me. I asked if he took any hits as hi shields seemed to be always full. He said "Oh I took 3 or 4 hits".


The highest gear he had was lvl 7 and his ship owned them. So the A-wing doesn't suck. It actually Rocks!

Message Edited by ROBO1964 on 11-24-2004 02:42 PM

S-1-l2-H-C
Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:07 am
#39

ive been using the same gear in my a since i hit 4333, and the same config plus some pverloads i got later are still all i use now. once i re some stuff ill also put one of my mk2 spacebomb launchers in it and i think that would let me solo the vette if i want to (right now that is the only thing i havent taken out myself, besides freedom station).

the a wing is a fighter pilot's ship. its not for the person with uber gear. allthough nice re'd gear helps, its not needed, and currently i havent had anything re'd (where do you guys go for loot? ive killed TONS of ships and im not getting enough of what i need. i got 5.5million prestige and 4million pilot xp, so ive killed a few ties )

if you want to rely on good gear, the longprobe is great and can joust with the best of them. but if you prefer to use skill to tail and hit your opponent, and enjoy pvp, then the awing is your ship.



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