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Thread: So this is what we all waited for?

Nacoa
Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:58 am
#27



Broog wrote:I hear a lot of people running something called "duty" missions. Is that the same deal as these pilot trainer missions where I have to be on the ground to get the mission, load into space, fly around aimlessly, fight for like 2 minutes, then go back home?

Since no one answered this:
You get a duty mission from your NPC trainer. You will get to chose between several types of missions, depending on your trainer. Once into space, you do wave after wave after wave until you decide to quit, or you've done a hell of a lot of missions.

For example, if you chose an "escort" duty, you'll be escorting ship after ship. If you chose a "destroy" duty, the game will be spawning wave after wave attacking you.

Duty missions are an excellent way to get xp, and a goood way to get money in JTL because you are paid after every wave, and the pay goes up over time.

You end a duty mission using your datapad, or by leaving the sector. You can't fail a duty mission. You only need to go back to the ground to reload, to train once you have enough XP, or if you stay in space long enough to get to the end of the mission (which takes quite a while).





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TorveStardust
Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:03 am
#28

omg,can't you people just be happy ONCE with the new stuff. If you don't like JtL,noone is forcing you to play it, I don't mind it's a "little" laggy when you got a slower computer,the devs did a good job. (preparing to get flamed)
Taram_Polluck
Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:44 am
#29



RozhlokLightningskull wrote:
About your rig:
You don't need a state of the art system like the guy above has to run SWG at a good clip. My machine at home is good (not top of the line, anymore). But, for the most part my computer here at work is crap. Athlon 800, GeForce4 MX-440 /w 64MB of RAM, but, the game is more than playable since I upgraded from 512MB to 768MB of RAM. That extra 256MB made a huge difference on my machine here at work. Memory is pretty cheap looking into upgrading to 1 GB of RAM and you should be going a lot smoother. That's the most bang for you buck, IMO, for SWG.





I wish I COULD upgrade my PC's ram but, unfortunately, the PC is about 4 years old (P4 1.8ghz DELL) and only supports 512mb of RAM

I shall just have to wait until mah tax return at which time I shall be building my new PC



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Broog
Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:46 am
#30






BigRay wrote:





Broog wrote:


BigRay: People like you really need to go away. This forum is for JTL discussion, which is exactly what I was doing with my post. I am not trying to tell people not to buy the game but I am discussing my experience and frustrations with it. In part I am hoping maybe to get some advice to make the game more enjoyable (maybe there is some way to get missions without docking that I dont know, for example), and in part I was critiquing the expansion. Your comments of "no one is holding you here" is foolish and serves no purpose. As I had already stated I am paid through January 2005. If my subscription ended in 2 weeks then yes I would cancel.





No


What needs to go away is people that whine because the game doesn't play the way they want it to play. Got a problem with your sound? That's a valid complaint. Don't like the design decisions in the game? That's your problem and as I clearly mentioned earlier, if you don't like it nobody's begging you to stay.







Wow you sure are a clown aren't you?


Many of the people who have replied explained how much different things can get later on in the game, and a few people explained the duty missions and how they worked. So where I pointed out the game seemed slow and I hated going to ground all the time and I was upset with the expansion, some other people with constructive posts showed me what I would have to do to enjoy JTL, like the missions where you don't go to ground and that it gets much faster paced down the road.


In fact,the reason I had posted initially was not merely to vent about the expansion but to explain my point of view about it and to see what other people thought about it. Whereas I was expecting a lot of posters to say "yea I ground missions for hours and I am not getting anywhere and its not getting any better", in which case I would not have wasted my time doing that, I got numerous responses indicating its worth the early grind to hang in there, and so I will.


You have to go away because you, like many people on these boards, think the answer to anyone with a negative post is "don't let the door smack your a$$ on the way out" and I guess you allow yourself a chuckle and a pat on the backfor your witty remarks. Instead you waste everyone's time who has to spend the 5 seconds reading your drivel, which is 5 seconds of our lives we will never get back.


If you don't agree with someone's post and have nothing constructive or informative to say, I do not understand why you do not simply go to another thread.




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KombatCamKombat
Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:58 am
#31

Buy a better machine!! LOL



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BigRay
Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:45 am
#32






Broog wrote:



Wow you sure are a clown aren't you?


Many of the people who have replied explained how much different things can get later on in the game, and a few people explained the duty missions and how they worked. So where I pointed out the game seemed slow and I hated going to ground all the time and I was upset with the expansion, some other people with constructive posts showed me what I would have to do to enjoy JTL, like the missions where you don't go to ground and that it gets much faster paced down the road.


In fact,the reason I had posted initially was not merely to vent about the expansion but to explain my point of view about it and to see what other people thought about it. Whereas I was expecting a lot of posters to say "yea I ground missions for hours and I am not getting anywhere and its not getting any better", in which case I would not have wasted my time doing that, I got numerous responses indicating its worth the early grind to hang in there, and so I will.


You have to go away because you, like many people on these boards, think the answer to anyone with a negative post is "don't let the door smack your a$$ on the way out" and I guess you allow yourself a chuckle and a pat on the backfor your witty remarks. Instead you waste everyone's time who has to spend the 5 seconds reading your drivel, which is 5 seconds of our lives we will never get back.


If you don't agree with someone's post and have nothing constructive or informative to say, I do not understand why you do not simply go to another thread.





I enjoy pointing out when people are acting like crybabies. Remember, you're the one that decided to start a whine thread.

truewildman
Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:48 am
#33

Damn. This is like a weekday afternoon soap-opera.





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BigRay
Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:04 pm
#34






EnZoFiRe wrote:

After reading the initial post here I can only make one comment. If you hate the game so much why not let your account expire. The old Tie fighter and X-Wing games are still available and have not changed. I have played this game since day 2, and I play now for the same reason I played then. I enjoy the game. With all due respects, Broog, you are tormenting yourself needlessly. Maybe you have just outgrown the game, or maybe you are not big enough for the game, which ever it is, you should quit.







Great post!
HeyHolo
Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:44 pm
#35






BigRay wrote:





EnZoFiRe wrote:

After reading the initial post here I can only make one comment. If you hate the game so much why not let your account expire. The old Tie fighter and X-Wing games are still available and have not changed. I have played this game since day 2, and I play now for the same reason I played then. I enjoy the game. With all due respects, Broog, you are tormenting yourself needlessly. Maybe you have just outgrown the game, or maybe you are not big enough for the game, which ever it is, you should quit.







Great post!






People say that like it's actually true, first off, people tend to overstate or over-emphasize things when they're not happy with something. On top of that, most of us have been here for a long time and have put in a large investment in SWG, both time wise and monetarily. People tend to get attached to these MMOG's so it's not just a matter of quiting just like that b/c you do actually hope things will get better.


But by the devs own admissions the game isn't as good as it could/should be and they know it, that's why they're always offering incentives to stay, or to come back. If agame was fun, you'd need to offer incentives to leave, that's how it should be. I just wish I could get the enjoyment out of SWG that I get out of games like SW: BF where it's exciting and I actually have fun playing. I mean the combat and GCW are just a joke, and I know they say they're working on it but to me I still don't feel they'll do it right just from what I've seen thus far. One of the main reasons I say that is b/c vehicles were a major major part of all SW battles, in SWG we are not even equipped to have a real SW battle. There are no hover tanks to ride in, no AT-AT's, no AT-ST's, no skiffs, no gunships but on top of that there's nothing to fight for, since the war can't end, as this is an MMOG, there at least needs to be some tentative points to control or some reason to fight other than just to do it. Sadly I don't think we'll ever see vehicles as an effective means to combat, as we should.I mean it goes unsaid a lot but this is a MAJOR thing, look at the battle in episode one, thousands of soldiers mixed with hundreds of various vehicles. Battle at Hoth, At-At's and At-St's, snow speeders, soldiers everwhere, etc. Point is in SWG I don't think we can ever have that feeling b/c the mechanics just aren't there. We can't ride in vehicles, we can't have them as pets b/c everyone complains about balance, devs are too lazy to implement them as regular parts of the game as NPC's , so what we're left with is a watered down version of something that resembles Star Wars.


Anyway, back to that statement, I think the reason people don't just simply quit is b/c they still have hope, which no one can blame them for, but at the same time that doesn't mean they ignore the glaring problems with the game. By your statement it is a bad thing to complain while in fact if no one complained nothing would ever get better.




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Taram_Polluck
Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:01 am
#36



truewildman wrote:
Damn. This is like a weekday afternoon soap-opera.





Yah It's been a slow day at work here I'm glad the boards have been active



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HeyHolo
Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:24 am
#37

I see a lot of people judging the original poster saying he's making a rash assessment after only playing a short time. While that is partially true, as a beta tester who has seen the high level stuff of the pilot profession, I can say he's not that far off base. Yeah your ship gets a bit faster at higher levels but still not fast as you expect, on top of that the combat is always slow b/c you can't fight at high speeds without major detriments; even in ships like the Awing that have good control at high speed you can't simply b/c the enemy ships are confined to a small area in which they spawn and if you fly at a higher speed you'll simply just keep flying past them, so essentially you'll end up doing "fly by" strikes which just takes longer, easier to just slow down and stay behind them, so combat is always going to be slow, the basic design of the system forces it. There are only a few missions where it is advantageous to go fast in combat, but even then it's just temporary to gain position, you still need to slow down once you circle your targets.


Then on top of that, they have all this rediculous mass stuff that really makes no sense. I mean think about it, these ships are produced, first of all they should come with stock equipment, but beyond that who produces a ship that can't hold the weapons that are built for it? If they had to have the mass things, it should only come into effect when you start equipping looted parts, then it's plausible that the mass isn't right since you're adapting technology not specifically designed for teh ship. But x-wings were produced by Incom, not only did it come with parts but it wouldn't come with parts that were too heavy or too power consuming to be used, that's just stupid. It's like buying a car with no engine, or saying hey, I need an engine for a Honda Accord, then the engine they build you is too heavy to run the car w/o removing something else, that's just stupid and makes no sense. If someone is building you something from scratch, they would obviously build it to specifically fit your ship, they don't just build some generic thing and say, "hey, hope that fits for ya." That's why I say their whole system is flawed on the base level. Same with the power consumption and all that, constructed parts should work b/c they'd be designed to do such, all that stuff where you have to pick and choose should only apply with looted stuff, at least then it'd make sense. This implementation they have is either b/c they're dumb or lazy, take your pick.


I could go on, but really there's no point as I don't plan on getting this expansion, I'll be cancelling my account at the end of my cycle and maybe I'll come back when they finish the GCW upgrade when they offer me the free 10 days I know they'll offer.



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FalinMor
Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:25 am
#38








BigRay wrote:


I enjoy pointing out when people are acting like crybabies. Remember, you're the one that decided to start a whine thread.




This thread is a great example of why constructive replies are cool and why non-constructive, brainless flames are bad.


The guy told everyone what his problems with the game was, a bunch of people gave him a lot more information and constructive feedback, and he doesn't feel as negative about JTL as he did before he made the post. And that's bad.... why? If there weren't so many trolls hanging around, maybe this would happen more often.


Falin


Nomorenerfs
Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:30 am
#39

Just don't be too disappointed when you get to Tier 3 and can no longer advance with a sizable group of flyers with you. Expect to die and die often. Skill has nothing to do with it at all. I was gated at 3-1 for 16 days before beta ended. Unavoidable neverending missile runs from the baddies, then turrets, then someone elses missions that you cannot attack but will certainly attack you.



SWG is a lot like the Nicotrol System.

With each patch, you're that much closer to quitting.
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