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Insidius wrote:
But they...DID...add new ships...

*confused*


Oh, I get it. You'll complain no matter what they do.

Actually, I'm surprised you're still playing this game at this point.

Message Edited by Insidius on 03-25-2005 11:18 AM

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I feel us guys who actually went out and bought JTL got cheated. This new upgrade is including JTL (hopefully it gets ALOT more people in space), but I feel instead of creating a planet nobody gives a rats ass about they could have greatly expanded the already existing ground/space game. Space itsself has sooo much potential to be it's own game it's unreal - yet they 'cop out' and add fins and a recolor to our existing ships?? Whatever happened to releasing cannon ships anyway? There's a whole mess of things that take place in this time and they feel the need to add ancient starfighters to the game?

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Warmaker01 wrote:
The E-Wing wasn't introduced until well into the New Republic, so it's too far into the future.

I can understand if the devs don't put in the TIE Defender. That thing kicked ALOT of ***. It is the very definition of the ultra rare superfighter from the X-Wing series of games. I fear that if T/D's are put in, they will be Nerfed three times as hard as the AT-ST. Then there's that flying arsenal called the Missile Boat! WOOOSSHH!

The X-Wing series had tons of starfighters available without including superfighters like the TIE Defender. The Imperial Gunboat, Cloakshape, Skipray Blastboat, Planetary Fighter, Patrol Craft, Scout Ship, *cough* Lambda Shuttles, Imperial Landing Craft, etc. I really could go on.

As for the modified fighters... fins, eh? /sarcasm I'm holding my breath.

More Prequel stuff, eh?

I foresee seeing more Jedi Starfighters and ARC-170 starfighters flying around than stuff like X-Wings and A-Wings. Another slap to the face of Lady Continuity.

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DonkeyChips wrote:

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sosusred wrote:

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DonkeyChips wrote:
I feel us guys who actually went out and bought JTL got cheated. This new upgrade is including JTL (hopefully it gets ALOT more people in space), but I feel instead of creating a planet nobody gives a rats ass about they could have greatly expanded the already existing ground/space game. Space itsself has sooo much potential to be it's own game it's unreal - yet they 'cop out' and add fins and a recolor to our existing ships?? Whatever happened to releasing cannon ships anyway? There's a whole mess of things that take place in this time and they feel the need to add ancient starfighters to the game?

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I give a "rats ass" about it and will have fun playing on it.

Ive been playing alot longer than you. WHy should you feel cheated and me not feel cheated? WHy are you so up in arms about a game? SO you have to pay 25 dollars for MORE content. SO what? If you dont want to pay, then dont buy it. SInce you dont care about the new planet, you should feel no need to buy it, so why complain.

Message Edited by sosusred on 03-27-2005 12:25 AM

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*cough*
Excuse me.I still payed my money for my copies and I pay my 15 a month per account just like you do. I paid for an expansion in which I will obviously have to pay for another to keep up with space. They are releasing new ships which will surely outperform the current ones, and if I wish to remain competitive, I'm left without a choice. If the XP were not mandatory for me, I wouldn't get it. I'm still amazed as to how theyre going to have such a heavily vegetated planet like Kashyyk when they can barely get everything in Endor spawning 10 feet in front of you. I can care less about how long you've been playing SWG, I am entitled to my own opinion as you are entitled to yours. I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that I was 'up in arms' about anything. Adding a planet, ugly robot arms, some rehashed ships, and new weapons isn't much for an expansion. JTL was enormous in what it added, yet they choose to barely show it any attention with this new release. There are so many other things devs could have improved and touched upon and you know it. Don't treat me like a newb, buddy, I've been playing MMO's since they first came around. (UO Dread Days anyone?)

And to further touch on the new planet: When was the Wookie planet even mentioned in the OT? Never? What planets are we missing that were in the OT?

Hoth (perma-battlefield maybe?)
Bespin (instanced atmospheric space for ships with different sky textures and some floating buildings, and maybe a space station to walk in?)

These were key planets that were fought over at this time in the OT. Kashyyk had absolutely nothing pivotal going on at this time in the GCW.

But hell, lets just continue to throw continuity out the window. Just because you played longer than me.

Never did I say you shouldn't feel cheated. This is a discussion about JTL, not your own agenda. I came here to discuss JTL , not whether every single person in game is happy or not. I have my right to feel as I choose to feel as do you. You sir, can have a nice hot cup of STF U.

Message Edited by DonkeyChips on 03-27-2005 01:00 AM

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One of the most beloved characters from the Original Trilogy was from Kashyyyk. ANd this is obviously a promotional tool to try and get more people to play SWG. Kashyyyk is a prominent planet in the new movie. If they put an older planet in, why would people who may not know much about star wars, except for the fact they saw EP3, want to try the game.

SOE: "Come play our game, we just added Hoth"

Potential customer: "Hoth, whats that? Never heard of it. THat wasnt in the movie".

Message Edited by sosusred on 03-27-2005 01:26 AM

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sosusred wrote:01:00 AM

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One of the most beloved characters from the Original Trilogy was from Kashyyyk. ANd this is obviously a promotional tool to try and get more people to play SWG. Kashyyyk is a prominent planet in the new movie. If they put an older planet in, why would people who may not know much about star wars, except for the fact they saw EP3, want to try the game.

SOE: "Come play our game, we just added Hoth"

Potential customer: "Hoth, whats that? Never heard of it. THat wasnt in the movie".

Message Edited by sosusred on 03-27-2005 01:26 AM

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You just said it yourself..... Kashyyk is in EP3, not IV - VI. You don't think youre going to see advertisments left and right for Rage of the Wookies when the movie is released anyway?? Hell, space could possibly attract more people not typically drawn to MMORPG's if it was given enough love. I got a friend of mine subscribed just because of what he saw in JTL. Now he's discovering the ground game too. Shame on you for failing to see the marketing potential in the legendary status that is STAR WARS, not forrest wars.

You were already rewarded for playing/paying longer than me anyway: Vet Rewards.

And my comment on JTL being FREE with ROTW was a pro not an attack against the new, free players - I stated it would bring MORE people in space hopefully. Go get your eyes checked, or learn to discern connotation, noob.

Heres the post to stop all other posts that whined and complained. I hear all these ppl say Well i went out and paid the $29 for the JTl expansion and i still pay my $15 a month to play this game, and you feel cheated that you have to pay $25 for JTl and the new Expansion.

Heres how i see it. You made a CHOICE. When the expansion came out you made a CHOICE to go out and pull the money outta your lint infested pocket and give it to the clerk so you can have JTL. You could of made the CHOICE not to get it. Could of just stayed with the ground game and did what you always did before it came out. Now you have another CHOICE to get it and pay the $25 to have it. Or you have the CHOICE not to get it and stick with what you have. You also have the CHOICE to stop it all together and leave the game. No one is forcing to you play this game or pay the fees that it requires to keep going. You and You alone make the CHOICE to keep paying these "over priced/Cheesy" expansions as some of you ppl put it. If you make a CHOICE to stick with this game,its your own damn fault that you are unhappy. Its not SOE or DEVs, its yours. You can make yourself happy. No one has to spoon feed you entertainment. You have a brain, make a CHOICE and stick with it. Dont make a CHOICE and then blame it on SOE or the DEVs who are just doing their jobs the best they can. Thats why things go wrong all the time in the game and the real world. No one can live up to their own CHOICES and mistakes that they make. They like to point their finger at someone else cause they cant be human enough to make CHOICES on their own.


If anyone can argue against this then you are sick and twisted humans that dont understand the term "Free Will"

Message Edited by nawchir on 03-27-2005 01:51 AM

I'm still quite happy to with of RotW as "Ripoff of the Week"
Of course, if they add something that I like, I will buy it, but as it is, $25 for some new ships (and a planet whcih will proably be uninhabitable), I am not going to bother.

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nawchir wrote:
Heres the post to stop all other posts that whined and complained. I hear all these ppl say Well i went out and paid the $29 for the JTl expansion and i still pay my $15 a month to play this game, and you feel cheated that you have to pay $25 for JTl and the new Expansion.

Heres how i see it. You made a CHOICE. When the expansion came out you made a CHOICE to go out and pull the money outta your lint infested pocket and give it to the clerk so you can have JTL. You could of made the CHOICE not to get it. Could of just stayed with the ground game and did what you always did before it came out. Now you have another CHOICE to get it and pay the $25 to have it. Or you have the CHOICE not to get it and stick with what you have. You also have the CHOICE to stop it all together and leave the game. No one is forcing to you play this game or pay the fees that it requires to keep going. You and You alone make the CHOICE to keep paying these "over priced/Cheesy" expansions as some of you ppl put it. If you make a CHOICE to stick with this game,its your own damn fault that you are unhappy. Its not SOE or DEVs, its yours. You can make yourself happy. No one has to spoon feed you entertainment. You have a brain, make a CHOICE and stick with it. Dont make a CHOICE and then blame it on SOE or the DEVs who are just doing their jobs the best they can. Thats why things go wrong all the time in the game and the real world. No one can live up to their own CHOICES and mistakes that they make. They like to point their finger at someone else cause they cant be human enough to make CHOICES on their own.


If anyone can argue against this then you are sick and twisted humans that dont understand the term "Free Will"

Message Edited by nawchir on 03-27-2005 01:51 AM

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Now... you can either take the blue pill or the red pill... =D

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DonkeyChips wrote:
I feel us guys who actually went out and bought JTL got cheated. This new upgrade is including JTL (hopefully it gets ALOT more people in space), but I feel instead of creating a planet nobody gives a rats ass about they could have greatly expanded the already existing ground/space game. Space itsself has sooo much potential to be it's own game it's unreal - yet they 'cop out' and add fins and a recolor to our existing ships?? Whatever happened to releasing cannon ships anyway? There's a whole mess of things that take place in this time and they feel the need to add ancient starfighters to the game?

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Message Edited by sosusred on 03-27-2005 12:25 AM