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Thread: Please do not make the Jedi Starfighter 2 only for Jedi
JeebusCrisp
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:29 am
#27
hawkes37 wrote:Just want to point out that at no point anywhere have I ever seen Jedi asking for this. None what so ever. We have no idea where the Dev's came up with the idea for a Jedi starfighter but it most certainly was not us as a community. The others, well you got us there, but wholeheartedly not us that asked for a Jedi starfighter.
nother special perk that completely throws the system up to this point out the door is not going to go over well.
Haven't perused the Jedi boards have you?
Neogame
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:50 am
#28
Hay, i would love it if they make it the same class as Yacht and Firespary so i can fly something other than a TIE, but if its jedi only i can live with that too. and to all of you how only read up to the bit about the JEDI starfighter, there is also going to be a Mining and Party ship. either way i'm going to LOVE this expansion as i'm a Wookiee and a shipwright YAY!!!!
GrupertRHD
Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:07 am
#29
I say let the Jedi have that ship, but while in it, they are open to attack by all..... 
psikobunny
Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:15 am
#30
I do not mind space and ground integration, as long as it is improved functions/missionslayered ontoyour ground profession (space mining for artisans, secret cargo compartments for smugglers, lots of other ideas). I would mind a LOT that, as a pilot, I couldnt ever have access to this ship without a major change to my ground character. I can easily choose to change to one of the 8 other pilot squads if I want a change of ships or missions. If I have to drop everything on the ground and devote my life to being a jedi to get this ship that's part of the space game... no no a thousand times, no.
Coran_Sienar
Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:13 pm
#31
I wouldn't worry about it. As another poster in the Pilot forums mentioned, look at the Firespray. It doesn't require a MBH, does it?
JediGohan
Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:29 pm
#32
Coran_Sienar wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it. As another poster in the Pilot forums mentioned, look at the Firespray. It doesn't require a MBH, does it?
which is what i'm trying to stress
i'd actually rather have the ARC fighter though
TheDarkmoons
Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:45 pm
#33
OK, so Jedi get a Jedi Starfighter because... they're Jedi...
So should only Bounty Hunters have the Firespray - because Boba/Jango used one?
Should only Smugglers have the YT-1300 - because Han used one?
NO!
The great thing about JTL is, everyone is on equal footing regardless of ground profession. The great thing about ships is, there is no 'I win' button - each ship has its pro's and con's. You have the super-fast and manuverable A-wings, TIE Advanceds, etc, and the slow but packs-a-punch Y-wings and TIE Bombers. You're not given a one-size-fits-all-ship clone (think composite) - it's to do with your personal preferences.
So Jedi shouldn't get a ship that negates this wonderous thing. And besides, its years out of date. Moreso than the Z95! So it will have to be worse, eh?
So should only Bounty Hunters have the Firespray - because Boba/Jango used one?
Should only Smugglers have the YT-1300 - because Han used one?
NO!
The great thing about JTL is, everyone is on equal footing regardless of ground profession. The great thing about ships is, there is no 'I win' button - each ship has its pro's and con's. You have the super-fast and manuverable A-wings, TIE Advanceds, etc, and the slow but packs-a-punch Y-wings and TIE Bombers. You're not given a one-size-fits-all-ship clone (think composite) - it's to do with your personal preferences.
So Jedi shouldn't get a ship that negates this wonderous thing. And besides, its years out of date. Moreso than the Z95! So it will have to be worse, eh?
VanBoaru
Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:11 pm
#34
JediGohan wrote:
Suba wrote:
I mean theres tons of ships if your a specific faction you cant get why does it matter if you cant get the jedi fighter? why arent you whining you cant fly the others?I'm not whining. Believe me I want the other ships.But since the artwork is already done there's no other alternative than to just accept that they're adding it.But I dont want Jedi to have special privileges in space otherwise that's the death of the game right there.They can have the ground. Me and many others consider space to be the Jedi free server of the game.
And how is a certain ship special privliges? Might as well make it so rebel pilots can fly imperial ships, after all, arent the rebel pilots getting a special privlege to fly rebel craft?
neinnunb
Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:30 pm
#35
My question is will the devs do it right (canon) and require you to attach to a booster drive to enter hyperspace? That would be cool.
Im on the fence if it should require a Jedi to fly one. But if Jedi get any special abilities with this craft I will be very adamant in my discontent.
Im on the fence if it should require a Jedi to fly one. But if Jedi get any special abilities with this craft I will be very adamant in my discontent.
hawkes37
Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:35 pm
#36
/agreed
Take Jedi anything out of Space and rename anything that remotely sounds Jedi like. We are hated enough.
Odajja
Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:16 pm
#37
Sifer2 wrote:
Im still wondering why people are making such a big deal about it. Even if it is a Force Sensitive cert I doubt its going to be super powerful. It will just be a normal ship most likely. What I dont understand is why people make such a large deal about it. I mean besides we are getting a 20 person ship that may very well be the small Capital Ship or Cargo Shipwe have been wanting an all people can do is moan about the Jedi Starfighter. I mean damn its not like the Jedi plan to take over space. They dont really gain anything up there. Making it a Jedi cert would at least keep it an uncommon sight since Jedi rarely fly.
And what Rock have you been living under??????
Odajja
Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:40 pm
#38
hawkes37 wrote:
Just want to point out that at no point anywhere have I ever seen Jedi asking for this. None what so ever. We have no idea where the Dev's came up with the idea for a Jedi starfighter but it most certainly was not us as a community. The others, wellyou got us there, but wholeheartedly not us that asked for a Jedi starfighter.
ValiantHalibut wrote:
People are annoyed because they feel (rightly, I think) that the ground game should not effect the space game. Do Master Pilots get Master Pilot Pistol certs that no one else gets? Nope. So why should Jedi - or, for that matter, any ground prof - get any space certs? Because they're "Jedi?" If that's all you can give as an argument then you've seriously got to reconsider your perspective on the game.
Some people have been saying things ilke "why aren't you annoyed that Rebels can't fly Imperial craft?" etc etc etc. That is, hands down, the stupidest argument you can give. It's like saying, "why aren't you complaining that riflemen can't use carbines?" Obviously a REBEL pilot is going to fly REBEL ships. However, why should a Jedi be the only one to use a ship, even if it is a Jedi ship? There is no Jedi Pilot class, so why should there be a Jedi pilot cert? Within the context of the system that has been in place since launch, a Jedi-only starfighter makes no sense and, more then anything else, is an example of SOE pandering to the Jedi population.
When you take players who have been here since launch and who never even considered becoming a Jedi merely because they didn't want to watch as Jedi grinders get perk after perk after perk, you need to understand that they're going to feel, justifiably, annoyed. Begging for another special perk that completely throws the system up to this point out the door is not going to go over well.
search the forums you will find them. They were asking for it In beta.
Sifer2
Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:16 pm
#39
Odajja wrote:
Sifer2 wrote:
Im still wondering why people are making such a big deal about it. Even if it is a Force Sensitive cert I doubt its going to be super powerful. It will just be a normal ship most likely. What I dont understand is why people make such a large deal about it. I mean besides we are getting a 20 person ship that may very well be the small Capital Ship or Cargo Shipwe have been wanting an all people can do is moan about the Jedi Starfighter. I mean damn its not like the Jedi plan to take over space. They dont really gain anything up there. Making it a Jedi cert would at least keep it an uncommon sight since Jedi rarely fly.
And what Rock have you been living under??????
Well every Jedi I know is either:
A. Grinding Jedi xp on the ground.
B. Doing PvP on the ground.
C. Destroying Bases on the ground.
D. Hunting for high level loot on the ground.
I dont know any Jedi that do much Space stuff. Those that do most likely only do it occasionally since most of the Jedi stuff is on the ground an is time consuming. Thinking that Jedi will take over Space just because they get a special ship design is silly. If the thing was overpowered then maybe but as I said I highly doubt it will be much different from the Firespray. It looks kind of like an Imperial fighter. In other words one weapon, low mass, an high speed an turning ability.