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Not to mention, you open up starship xp to conversion, and the "I'll just grind master in less than an hour" shipwrights will come forward wanting the same ratio as any other crafter.

People just don't seem to view this as a multi-tiered issue that will just get progressively worse if implemented:

1. You start off by making starship xp convertible.

2. Shipwrights complain, so conversion ratios are added for them as well in a hotfix.

3. Seeing the attitude of appeasement, the "JEDI SHOULD GET SPACE SKILLS" advocates start opening their beaks, waiting for their allotment of regurgitated content from the Devs.

4. While the Devs shake the #3s off their legs for the next few months following their concessions, everyone and their cousin's uncle become Jedi or fully-force sensitive.

#4 might be inevitable as more and more people start questioning "what the hell is there left to do in this game," but as it is now the "critical mass" point in this game is about six months off. Implementing starship-to-FS xp conversion would light the fire NOW.

Message Edited by Mafuw on 11-29-2004 09:39 AM

Of course, I'm sure there's a perfect explanation that you and "Eme" type the exact same way in the exact same syntax.

Either way, both of you need a visit from the Paragraph and Punctuation Fairies. I let grammar slide now in the interest of English not being some people's first language, but nothing excuses bad grammar, no matter what the language or dialect.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 11-29-2004 12:45 PM

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TotalJerk wrote:

I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to use space exp as force exp. Jedi's used their skills to pilot their ships, fly pod racers, blow up deathstars, etc. However it is a good point since pilot costs no skill points, you shouldn't be able to benefit from space exp conversion.

I think a good compromise is a high conversion ratio. 100-1, 200-1 might work.

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If they were to add conversion in at a 1000:1 ratio, I guarantee you people would complain. I can foresee the comments now: "WOW, THANKS FOR NOTHING, DEVS" "OMG what the hell is this 500/1000:1 stuff!?!?!"

Loose translation - "We wanted it at 30:1 because we want to master an entire FS tree in a day."

This isn't a logical argument - at the root of this people just want to whiz around and make Jedi with little to no effort. Note no one's commented on my 1000:1 ratio - the only one I've been hearing from the proponents is 30:1 granted for weapons xp (and a few crackpots have even been tossing out the 3:1 combat xp ratio), and that's unacceptable with how phenomenally and insultingly easy it is to get starship combat xp.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 11-29-2004 04:46 PM

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nicmo wrote:

This is the real reason why you can't trade pilot exp for force exp....

I gained one million pilot exp in an hour doing tier 4 duty missions..... one million in an hour. Did you hear me right?

ONE MILLION IN AN HOUR!!!!!!!!!!

That's why. NO other profession can you get that much exp. Touch pilot exp for force exp, and you just killed the whole reason why there's a village in the first place.

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Ahh Ehmmm .

I gain 900k unarmed and 900k one handed xp (1.8 million total) PLUS180K Combatxp (traded at 3:1) in 2 hours. In case you can't do the math, that's 120k Force xp and the1 million Pilot xp converted at the same rate is 33k force xp.

So Ground xp is faster,the big differenceI find is Space xp a lot more fun to get then ground xp, but then; WHY SHOULD GAMES BE FUN?<----------- Insert sarcasim here

Message Edited by Maxila on 11-29-2004 05:11 PM