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gohan6420 wrote:
Ok anach don't come in here acting all godly and l33t like in this ok?
You come in here saying you didn't die and your a tier 4 wow. I didn't die till master so......
If you die in PVE thats your problem but this is about PVP or at least thats what I've been saying.
Lets see you try to hyperspace we your dueling in space? My YT-1300 can only take 3-5 hits to the same shields from a player before its to armor and thats the uberiest shields i could find. My armor is also the uberiest and what 3 hits and its gone? I'm glad I've got ep3 not that i use it to grief but its usefull in pvp and dueling sense you can blow em up real fast.
heh im not trying to act "godly" or "l33t" I didnt realise this is a PVP only discussion, i thought i was about chassis decay on MP ships. A lot of people dont PVP in their MP ships, but keep getting themselves and others killed anyway. Simply saying i know when to get out to save myself the hassle of chassis decay. I also didnt realise this was your thread... Oh its not. YOU may have been talking about PVP, thats not the original topic.
PVP from what i hear still needs a lot of tweaking.
The other thing, fair enough MP ships can store your stuff, but MP combat ships are meant for combat. If you want your stuff to be safe, you should use the luxury yacht if you have one, or stay in safe areas.It is a pain to keep having to transfer 75 items from you MP ship to another chassis, but expense of a chassisis no where near that which people spend on the ground game, for their weapons etc. Its just annoying to transfer everything.
Id be for an easier way to replace your chassis while keeping all your stuff in it. Like an option asking "would you like to replace your current chassis" when you go to use the deed.
Im also for the damage reduction in PVP.
NasherUK wrote:
Thats not going to help if you end up on the wrong side of a tier 5 gunship, even if you get away damaged your chassis still decays at the same rate when you repair. So death or escape doesnt really make much difference.
Yeah Ive been there. In those cases there isnt much of a getaway. Maybe i should of started a seperate thread 
Im frustrated about getting killed in an MP ship because someone went into an area and wasnt clever enough to avoid some tier 4 bwings.
All i can say about gunships is, thank the devs for bomber strike, which make great decoys.
Anach wrote:
gohan6420 wrote:
Ok anach don't come in here acting all godly and l33t like in this ok?
You come in here saying you didn't die and your a tier 4 wow. I didn't die till master so......
If you die in PVE thats your problem but this is about PVP or at least thats what I've been saying.
Lets see you try to hyperspace we your dueling in space? My YT-1300 can only take 3-5 hits to the same shields from a player before its to armor and thats the uberiest shields i could find. My armor is also the uberiest and what 3 hits and its gone? I'm glad I've got ep3 not that i use it to grief but its usefull in pvp and dueling sense you can blow em up real fast.
heh im not trying to act "godly" or "l33t" I didnt realise this is a PVP only discussion, i thought i was about chassis decay on MP ships. A lot of people dont PVP in their MP ships, but keep getting themselves and others killed anyway. Simply saying i know when to get out to save myself the hassle of chassis decay. I also didnt realise this was your thread... Oh its not. YOU may have been talking about PVP, thats not the original topic.
PVP from what i hear still needs a lot of tweaking.
The other thing, fair enough MP ships can store your stuff, but MP combat ships are meant for combat. If you want your stuff to be safe, you should use the luxury yacht if you have one, or stay in safe areas.It is a pain to keep having to transfer 75 items from you MP ship to another chassis, but expense of a chassisis no where near that which people spend on the ground game, for their weapons etc. Its just annoying to transfer everything.
Id be for an easier way to replace your chassis while keeping all your stuff in it. Like an option asking "would you like to replace your current chassis" when you go to use the deed.
Im also for the damage reduction in PVP.
Ummm didn't you know that after it gets to 10 condition it can't go down no more?
another thing i never said it was my post and i said I was talking about PVP so if other ppl talk about PVE I was addressing your post towards a PVP point of view.
And you know how much dmg 8 tier 5's and a gunboat can do to you? How do you know exactly when to leave? you go in and the ships start whacking you up too fast that even going in and activating hyperspace right away wont save you.
The point is that once your shields go down but you started hyperspacing around .5 of shields were left you could servive if you have full chassis but if your chassis decays every death then you wont have the chassis to protect you when your in trouble
Message Edited by gohan6420 on 11-28-2004 03:48 PM
gohan6420 wrote:
Anach wrote:
gohan6420 wrote:
Ok anach don't come in here acting all godly and l33t like in this ok?
You come in here saying you didn't die and your a tier 4 wow. I didn't die till master so......
If you die in PVE thats your problem but this is about PVP or at least thats what I've been saying.
Lets see you try to hyperspace we your dueling in space? My YT-1300 can only take 3-5 hits to the same shields from a player before its to armor and thats the uberiest shields i could find. My armor is also the uberiest and what 3 hits and its gone? I'm glad I've got ep3 not that i use it to grief but its usefull in pvp and dueling sense you can blow em up real fast.
heh im not trying to act "godly" or "l33t" I didnt realise this is a PVP only discussion, i thought i was about chassis decay on MP ships. A lot of people dont PVP in their MP ships, but keep getting themselves and others killed anyway. Simply saying i know when to get out to save myself the hassle of chassis decay. I also didnt realise this was your thread... Oh its not. YOU may have been talking about PVP, thats not the original topic.
PVP from what i hear still needs a lot of tweaking.
The other thing, fair enough MP ships can store your stuff, but MP combat ships are meant for combat. If you want your stuff to be safe, you should use the luxury yacht if you have one, or stay in safe areas.It is a pain to keep having to transfer 75 items from you MP ship to another chassis, but expense of a chassisis no where near that which people spend on the ground game, for their weapons etc. Its just annoying to transfer everything.
Id be for an easier way to replace your chassis while keeping all your stuff in it. Like an option asking "would you like to replace your current chassis" when you go to use the deed.
Im also for the damage reduction in PVP.
Ummm didn't you know that after it gets to 10 condition it can't go down no more?
another thing i never said it was my post and i said I was talking about PVP so if other ppl talk about PVE I was addressing your post towards a PVP point of view.
And you know how much dmg 8 tier 5's and a gunboat can do to you? How do you know exactly when to leave? you go in and the ships start whacking you up too fast that even going in and activating hyperspace right away wont save you.
The point is that once your shields go down but you started hyperspacing around .5 of shields were left you could servive if you have full chassis but if your chassis decays every death then you wont have the chassis to protect you when your in trouble
Message Edited by gohan6420 on 11-28-2004 03:48 PM
I believe you are nitpicking and putting words in my mouth. I didnt say anything about 8 tier 5's and a gunboat. Im simply saying that many people dont know when to leave. Of course there will be times when its impossible, but a lot of time, you can and it will save your chassis and equipment.
Staying there until destuction is how i have seen most people fight in ths game, and it is most the time not necessary. unless in your scenario where there isnt much hope. i think id jump as soon as i saw them, knowing id not have much chance. Unless with a bunch of friends in other ships.
Im not about to go into detail about every possible scenario. Again, simply trying to say, You can run, you dont have to stay until you die.
From the sounds of it, you also know when to run, if you havent died right up to tier 4. So please disregard my post, as it doesnt seem to apply to you.
We are Hijacking the thread unnecessarily.
gohan6420 wrote:
My point chassis shouldn't decay to non-fixable back to original value cus it sucks like that.
Chassis's are your last line of defense before your screwed so with a weak last line you gotta get a new one to be able to live.
PVP would be more fun but i use expendable only stuff and a pre-patch dunelizard to save money. Chassis decay should not happen
because it is Killing pvp which is not a good thing. I would love to PVP with my YT but there are alot of problems as of the extreme lack of
defense on the YT having the save protection on it as any other ship but that wouldn't be the main factor. The main factor is that the decay
and if you PVP with one YT you gotta get another for PVE. And with PVE after dieing a while you gotta replace it so it is a big credit sink too
big for the econamy to handel unless your a couple hundred million credits rich or a shipwright yourself.
Anach wrote:
gohan6420 wrote:
My point chassis shouldn't decay to non-fixable back to original value cus it sucks like that.
Chassis's are your last line of defense before your screwed so with a weak last line you gotta get a new one to be able to live.
PVP would be more fun but i use expendable only stuff and a pre-patch dunelizard to save money. Chassis decay should not happen
because it is Killing pvp which is not a good thing. I would love to PVP with my YT but there are alot of problems as of the extreme lack of
defense on the YT having the save protection on it as any other ship but that wouldn't be the main factor. The main factor is that the decay
and if you PVP with one YT you gotta get another for PVE. And with PVE after dieing a while you gotta replace it so it is a big credit sink too
big for the econamy to handel unless your a couple hundred million credits rich or a shipwright yourself.
Having a chassis repairable by a shipwright as an alternative is a good idea.
You repaired by a SW with no decay?
No, you get the same decay as repairs done at space stations. It would be nice if SW can make vitality packs that can be used to restore shipchassis back totheir original state.
gohan6420 wrote:
Anach wrote:
gohan6420 wrote:
My point chassis shouldn't decay to non-fixable back to original value cus it sucks like that.
Chassis's are your last line of defense before your screwed so with a weak last line you gotta get a new one to be able to live.
PVP would be more fun but i use expendable only stuff and a pre-patch dunelizard to save money. Chassis decay should not happen
because it is Killing pvp which is not a good thing. I would love to PVP with my YT but there are alot of problems as of the extreme lack of
defense on the YT having the save protection on it as any other ship but that wouldn't be the main factor. The main factor is that the decay
and if you PVP with one YT you gotta get another for PVE. And with PVE after dieing a while you gotta replace it so it is a big credit sink too
big for the econamy to handel unless your a couple hundred million credits rich or a shipwright yourself.
Having a chassis repairable by a shipwright as an alternative is a good idea.
You repaired by a SW with no decay?
Amuro0079 wrote:
There's one problem though. I don't think currently there's anyway to keep track of a ship's original hitpoint, so if andwhen the devs decide to include vitality packs for ship chassis,they will probably not work on ships that we currently own.
why does that make me feel JTL should have been in beta longer?