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cloudwalker1
Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:43 pm
#27






Thunderheart wrote:





Anthemion wrote:




Blimigerite wrote:

So we just need to find a way to send information faster then the speed of light! Sounds simple enough






Yup, very easy. Quantum entanglement.

Now how do you incorporate that into a device....



With a quantum infuser!






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TheLateAnakinSolo
Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:13 pm
#28






Thunderheart wrote:





Anthemion wrote:




Blimigerite wrote:

So we just need to find a way to send information faster then the speed of light! Sounds simple enough






Yup, very easy. Quantum entanglement.

Now how do you incorporate that into a device....



With a quantum infuser!








TH, HOW DARE YOU!!!... Star Wars dev and everything...




You simply send someone into hyperspace with all your packets!


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Waren_Xim
Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:41 pm
#29

You could try two modems, some ISPs will allow you to connect your computer useing two modems, in the same computer, at the same time. I did it a few times playing SWG and it did help.


You will need a second phone line for the second modem.


davelope
Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:12 pm
#30

fyi: SOE doesn't/shouldn't need to tell anyone SWG (or any onlinegame)doesn't run well/at all on satelite.


It's a well known fact satelite service is not acceptable for playing games online besides maybe poker...


When I looked into getting it myself more than 7 years ago, ISDN was/is a better choice for real time gaming. I think my friend who did get it complained, saying that the technology itself does not work for gaming because under the most ideal situations (like having a perfectlycloud freeatmosphere all the way up to the satelite), there's about a 1/3 second delay to and 1/3 second back for every bit ofdata you need from the server. So with swg running at 30fps max i believe you'd belooking at abeautiful 3 fps on a dish.


although itll probably run you $80-100 a month,there's ghetto isdn



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Wholfe
Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:34 pm
#31






Thunderheart wrote:





Anthemion wrote:




Blimigerite wrote:

So we just need to find a way to send information faster then the speed of light! Sounds simple enough






Yup, very easy. Quantum entanglement.

Now how do you incorporate that into a device....



With a quantum infuser!







Nope, get hamsters on steroids on the wheels that operate, then feed them pop rocks. The sugar rush accompanied by the explosiveness of the candy should theoretically super charge their legs to move faster than the speed of light.....




Or make them blow up.





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LuxDiazepam
Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:44 pm
#32






Waren_Xim wrote:

You could try two modems, some ISPs will allow you to connect your computer useing two modems, in the same computer, at the same time. I did it a few times playing SWG and it did help.


You will need a second phone line for the second modem.








Well, as much as i'd like to say that i'd do any thing to be able to get the full content of this game.....


The cost of running multiple PCs on dial up, plus keeping the sat for the normal use (e-mail, surfing, etc) OR adding multiple phone lines, plus dial up for each one..... it begins to become unrealistic. Keep in mind this is comming from some one that bought a desk top to be able to play.


From my experience with dial up, the game is playable on it.


And for those of you who have suggested ther things..... thatnks, I do apreciate the ideas!!! I really do. But i'm honestly not kidding, nor exagerating when I say that my options are dial up or satelite. My neighbors are cows, for some reason they don't have a great demand for a quality ISP =).


Ah the good life in the country.... peace, quiet.... fresh air...... and no quality ISP. =)




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Waren_Xim
Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:13 pm
#33



Well then you have the following options:




Live with your current setup and hope for DSL, Cable, or Wireless some time in the future.




Use the sat for every thing but gaming and use a duel modem\line setup through a free or very low cost ISP.

(One computer with two modems\lines running at the same time)



Dropyou current setup and only use a ISDN connection, if available.




Drop your current setup and only use a duel modem connection.
Machoeuphonium
Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:03 am
#34

speaking of ping, what does it do? I have fiber optics so i should have a good connection.
Anthemion
Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:03 am
#35


Blimigerite wrote:

So we just need to find a way to send information faster then the speed of light! Sounds simple enough



Yup, very easy. Quantum entanglement.

Now how do you incorporate that into a device....




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Warryyr
Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:08 am
#36






Blimigerite wrote:

So we just need to find a way to send information faster then the speed of light! Sounds simple enough






If I can just perfect my wormhole generator, we can send a request packetfor information to the satellite, request it, and send it back again...at nearly the exact instant the packet was requested.


It's just a matter of either working with or ruling out exotic matter, of course in an arbitrarily small amount, to keep the throat of the wormhole open just enough to pass photons through -in a stable and predictable route.


I'll get right on it.


omadnay
Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:19 am
#37



Warryyr wrote:


Blimigerite wrote:

So we just need to find a way to send information faster then the speed of light! Sounds simple enough


If I can just perfect my wormhole generator, we can send a request packet for information to the satellite, request it, and send it back again...at nearly the exact instant the packet was requested.

It's just a matter of either working with or ruling out exotic matter, of course in an arbitrarily small amount, to keep the throat of the wormhole open just enough to pass photons through - in a stable and predictable route.

I'll get right on it.






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Ninyania
Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:31 am
#38






omadnay wrote:





Warryyr wrote:





Blimigerite wrote:

So we just need to find a way to send information faster then the speed of light! Sounds simple enough






If I can just perfect my wormhole generator, we can send a request packet for information to the satellite, request it, and send it back again...at nearly the exact instant the packet was requested.


It's just a matter of either working with or ruling out exotic matter, of course in an arbitrarily small amount, to keep the throat of the wormhole open just enough to pass photons through - in a stable and predictable route.


I'll get right on it.








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Don't forget the "tachyon pulse".... gots tah have a tachyon pulse in there somewhere. It's right here in the tech manual.



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ArdenStarmariner
Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:42 am
#39



Thunderheart wrote:


ArdenStarmariner wrote:


Thunderheart wrote:


JareedSteele wrote:
Just to add my 2 cents, I can confirm this.
I just recently changed from a satellite company to a cable company and my game got much better.
I had the same problems mentioned above (disconecting, not registering direct hits in space, etc.) and since I changed all is OK and a lot faster.
Hope this helps our fellow gamers.


Yeah, satellite technology is very cool, but it just isn't fast enough to support MMO gaming.



It can't be fixed either. The problem is the takes about 0.34 seconds for a packet to go up to the satelite back back down again. Another 0.34 seconds for a response packet to come back. That's the speed of light to and from a satellite in geosyncronous orbit. Nothing technically can be done about it. It's also the reason why Modulo 128 flow control was added to the X.25 communication protocol way back when.

That is some great technical info. Is it a hobby of yours?







Nah. I use to work for AT&T Tridom as a DEV support X.25 data communications over satellite. I constantly had to explain to customers why their throughput sucked because they were trying to push data through the pipe while it was set to Modulo 8 with a credit window of something like 4. Considering that the packet with the acknowledgement was coming back after 0.67 seconds, the flow control was keeping the throttle closed off. Kinda works like a governor on an old steam engine. Once they set the modulo to 128 and opened the credit window to 127, the data came blasting through.

No matter how you slice it, interactive data communications over satellite is gonna suck. Better only figure on using it for more of the batch type of transfers.




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