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This thread is still going? Sheesh. I thought what I wrote below was pretty plain and simple. But, here it is again, for those that might of skipped it.

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Massadonious wrote:

I understand the argument from both sides, I really do. The need for continuity, and the need for balance. Both sides have made their points perfectly clear (besides the obvious flaming, of course)

But, the one thing we all need to remember...

The Dev's are giving the player character the ability to add on a hyperdrive and sheild gen to their craft.

Plain and simple. Like it, or loathe it, it's going to be in the game.

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NeoDaywalker wrote:

I really couldn't read all of this so sorry if this has been said.

I originally didn't like the idea of TIEs having hyperdrives either but think of it this way:

You won't be buying your ships from the Empire, but most likely from a shipwright, so its a custom version that includes a hyperdrive.

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Even Star Wars movies dont like NGE....

Yoda: Twisted by the Dark Side, young SWG has become. The game we played, gone it is... Consumed by the NGE.
Mace Windu(us): The customers will decide SWG's fate.
Supreme Chancellor(Devs): I *am* the customers!
Tiggs wrote: NGE is here to stay.
C-3PO: [walking away] I feel so helpless.
"And so it is" said Bail Organa as he left.
So this is how liberty is crushed...... by the sound of Tiggs Paws.
"NGE your breaking my heart!" Cries Amidala







I'll miss being a TK

I oppose the NGE and support Holocron Shug and Q-3p0's dream of the way SWG should be!


"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres

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Spank-A-Thon wrote:

I have a couple of points.

If TIE Fighters (that's bog-standard TIE's, not Advanced or any other model) are bought from Imperial Suppliers then as stock they will have no shields and no hyperdrive - but that's not the same as can't.

I can't remember which series of books (maybe the Corellia trilogy), butthere were ships known as 'Uglies' and these were heavily bastardised versions of known fighters. For example there was an X-Wing's body with TIE wings attatched to it. Therefore it's fairly safe to assume that TIE's could be butchered in such as fashion that shields and hyperdrives could be added - after all, there nothing to stop you sticking a NOS kit into any car.

Personally, I would go for a more advanced model of TIE which does have shields and hyperdrive but I can't see why non-Factional TIE's couldn't be heavily customised.

If everyone doesn't want to see classic TIE Fighters being flown by players then keep insisting that they cannot have hyperdrive or shields - cos let's face it, why would anyone want to fly an easy target? If you want JTL to be nothing more than X-Wings vs TIE Advanced then keep up with the comments. Hell, why do you think everyone wears composite armour?

There are no viable PvP armours than composite - do you want there to be no viable PvP space fighters other than X-Wings and TIE Advanced as well?

- Ymo

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Even Star Wars movies dont like NGE....

Yoda: Twisted by the Dark Side, young SWG has become. The game we played, gone it is... Consumed by the NGE.
Mace Windu(us): The customers will decide SWG's fate.
Supreme Chancellor(Devs): I *am* the customers!
Tiggs wrote: NGE is here to stay.
C-3PO: [walking away] I feel so helpless.
"And so it is" said Bail Organa as he left.
So this is how liberty is crushed...... by the sound of Tiggs Paws.
"NGE your breaking my heart!" Cries Amidala







I'll miss being a TK

I oppose the NGE and support Holocron Shug and Q-3p0's dream of the way SWG should be!


"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres

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Dash_Vandor wrote:

Well of course TIE have no lightspeed. If your were a TRUE nerd you would know that the imperials wouldnt want them trying to take off. It also explains why they have no life support and the funny suits they wear.

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actualy it has nothingto do with that....TIE had no hyperdrives because the TIE was made to be very very cheap to build so the empire could have 3 TIE's or more for every X-wing in any battle....

It was all about cost and quantity...not running away.

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jedi730 wrote:

And everyone must also be forgeting that this is the layout of the TIE:

80%space for Cannon Fodder...i mean pilot

5% guns

15% Twin Ion Engine

where is the Hyperdrive going to fit in?

why dont you take out the guns and find out.

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Different parts can physically alter the craft. In this case, the comic book reference to hyperdrive-equiped TIEs had them with a boxy protrusion attached aft of the cockpit.

You are entirely correct... a TIE has very little interior room. It's all in how you accessorise

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! AND U GUYS ARE SOLDIERS OF THE EMPIRE!!! THATS WHY UR ALWAYS OVERT IN SPACE!!!!!!!!!! U CHOSE TO BE IMPERIAL NOW FACE THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!!

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Even Star Wars movies dont like NGE....

Yoda: Twisted by the Dark Side, young SWG has become. The game we played, gone it is... Consumed by the NGE.
Mace Windu(us): The customers will decide SWG's fate.
Supreme Chancellor(Devs): I *am* the customers!
Tiggs wrote: NGE is here to stay.
C-3PO: [walking away] I feel so helpless.
"And so it is" said Bail Organa as he left.
So this is how liberty is crushed...... by the sound of Tiggs Paws.
"NGE your breaking my heart!" Cries Amidala







I'll miss being a TK

I oppose the NGE and support Holocron Shug and Q-3p0's dream of the way SWG should be!


"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres

.......... AND the many many advantages!!!!

Even Star Wars movies dont like NGE....

Yoda: Twisted by the Dark Side, young SWG has become. The game we played, gone it is... Consumed by the NGE.
Mace Windu(us): The customers will decide SWG's fate.
Supreme Chancellor(Devs): I *am* the customers!
Tiggs wrote: NGE is here to stay.
C-3PO: [walking away] I feel so helpless.
"And so it is" said Bail Organa as he left.
So this is how liberty is crushed...... by the sound of Tiggs Paws.
"NGE your breaking my heart!" Cries Amidala







I'll miss being a TK

I oppose the NGE and support Holocron Shug and Q-3p0's dream of the way SWG should be!


"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, ?How can we do this and not make another EQ?? We didn?t want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we?ve created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres

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Obi-Wan-Keneli wrote:

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NeoDaywalker wrote:

I really couldn't read all of this so sorry if this has been said.

I originally didn't like the idea of TIEs having hyperdrives either but think of it this way:

You won't be buying your ships from the Empire, but most likely from a shipwright, so its a custom version that includes a hyperdrive.

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You guys just dont get it do you!! TIES CAN NOT HAVE HYPERDRIVES!!!! I have brought multiple sources, saying so!! THERE IS ONLY ONE THAT SAYS THEY CAN HAVE HYPERDRIVES... IF YOU TAKE OUT THE WEOPONS, AND FOOT ROOM!!! Other wise the ship will overload blow up!!! AND YOU ARE GETTING SHIPS FROM THE EMPIRE!! YOU DONT SEE "Imperial Supporters" FLYING TIES!! IN SPACE YOU ARE EITHER "WITH EM OR AGAINST EM" SO BE PART OF THE IMPERIAL NAVY... FLY WITH 6 Wingmates so u dont get ur asses busted, And get Victory class Star Destroyers for all i care... I want Continuity not Rebel advantage... just in Space the REBELS ALWAYS HAVE THE ADVANTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO ONE ON ONE COMBAT!!! SO MAKE TIES CHEEP AND X WINGS EXPENSIVE!! MAKE STAR DESTROYERS!!! TIES ARE EXPENDABLE AND AS SOLDIERS OF THE EMPIRE SO ARE YOU!!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN GRANTED MENUEVERABILITY IN EXCHANGE FOR SHIELDS LIFE SUPPORT AND HYPERDRIVES!!! I WILL SAY IT AGAIN TIES CANNOT HAVE HYPERDRIVES UNLESS U WANT THE SHIP TO BLOW!!!!!! ONE MORE TIME CANNOT HAVE HYPERDRIVES!! I REPEAT CANNOT

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Message Edited by DavidGX on 07-07-2004 12:16 PM