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RodiTyrone
Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:18 pm
#261
My other point is with the state rather it is broken or not ya have to invest 20 skill points and then dizzy and intimidate is not in it. I mean the healer could heal all his states, poisen, bleeding,disease with the same number of skillpoints. I mean i dont want that the defender is immune to states but maybe very resistant and it is more than 2 or three hits needed therefore he is the defender.
Another point is i dont know if ya really need the healing stuff. When ya cannot heal yourself anymore ya hardly could use Avoid Incap. ´coz of the higher force cost. Maybe im wrong with that but thats how avoid incap. is used i think.
Another point is i dont know if ya really need the healing stuff. When ya cannot heal yourself anymore ya hardly could use Avoid Incap. ´coz of the higher force cost. Maybe im wrong with that but thats how avoid incap. is used i think.
jball2k
Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:59 pm
#262
MajesticJester wrote:
jball2k wrote:
johnautry613 wrote:
RodiTyrone wrote:
So i read all the post belonging that discussion and my nice Idea of becoming Master Lightsaber and Masterdefender is now just a bad dream.This all sounds like the Master Defender is not worth doing at all. I mean the Melee Defense has got now really effect in PvP the Ranged Defense is useless as well as the State Defense (i mean Dizzy/KD and Intimidate are the hardest states in game)Avoid Incap. ok sounds nice but without healer it seems to be not that strong. So my question: Is the Master Defender really so weak as i think. I mean i prefer to do some of the enhancer stuff instead of the healing(like 80% of the jedis) but atm i doubt this would be a good desicion until maybe the Combat Revamp will take place
Melee Defense and Ranged defense are not 'usless'. Even if you look at them through the limited vision of PVP they are not useless.
I will need WAY more convinving that State defense is bugged.
and the toughness you get is versus EVERYTHING, not just melee.
The other part I would say is that you need healer no matter waht template you get. At minimum 3004 if not 4004.
Message Edited by johnautry613 on 01-22-2005 06:35 AM
I had State Defense 4
I was dizzied/blind/stunned damn near everytime a Jedi used Dervish 2 on me.
It's a useless skill
there was a big thread about State Defense and the testers came to find it was broken
state defense 4 = 50% which equals every other hit you will get states
whats broken about it?
If it's not broken...I don't now why anyone would get it.
It was a big waste of skill points and time grindingwhen I had it
otoolejp
Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:07 am
#263
MajesticJester wrote:
jball2k wrote:
johnautry613 wrote:
RodiTyrone wrote:
So i read all the post belonging that discussion and my nice Idea of becoming Master Lightsaber and Masterdefender is now just a bad dream.This all sounds like the Master Defender is not worth doing at all. I mean the Melee Defense has got now really effect in PvP the Ranged Defense is useless as well as the State Defense (i mean Dizzy/KD and Intimidate are the hardest states in game)Avoid Incap. ok sounds nice but without healer it seems to be not that strong. So my question: Is the Master Defender really so weak as i think. I mean i prefer to do some of the enhancer stuff instead of the healing(like 80% of the jedis) but atm i doubt this would be a good desicion until maybe the Combat Revamp will take place
Melee Defense and Ranged defense are not 'usless'. Even if you look at them through the limited vision of PVP they are not useless.
I will need WAY more convinving that State defense is bugged.
and the toughness you get is versus EVERYTHING, not just melee.
The other part I would say is that you need healer no matter waht template you get. At minimum 3004 if not 4004.
Message Edited by johnautry613 on 01-22-2005 06:35 AM
I had State Defense 4
I was dizzied/blind/stunned damn near everytime a Jedi used Dervish 2 on me.
It's a useless skill
there was a big thread about State Defense and the testers came to find it was broken
state defense 4 = 50% which equals every other hit you will get states
whats broken about it?
Becauseyou get hit with states about every other hit anyway.
The freindly, happy, sexy, purple, slimey, rotten Rodian of Chimaera
BobaFettish
Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:42 pm
#265
1.......1Million for a single GKD Scale?......."Un-controlable Laughter"
2.......This is an Items & Loot Discussion Board, not a Trade Forum.
Please go & re-Post this on the trade forums for your specific Server
Woe_Gafi
Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:51 pm
#266
Ok clever d!ck obviosly posted in wrong forum and price is dependent on what server fool
tHeRaBiDmOnKeY
Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:18 pm
#267
/agree
would love to see a quest, content FTW!, that opened up an ability to land,but only when the village is in phase 3 or maybe just phase 4, kinda unrealistic
to land in phase 1 when everythings destroyed, etc
dragon90
Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:10 pm
#268
i might as well start with,i absolutly love the decimator,the imps got the good ship 
now,as a ground rebel (and not planning to change...) i started to think on how this might work...what ive come up with so far..
now,as a ground rebel (and not planning to change...) i started to think on how this might work...what ive come up with so far..add three new storyline NPCs,that are in remote bases middle of nowhere in little "monitering stations" for either faction,once someone masters pilot,their master trainer will offer a waypoint to these station,noting,upon request for a new mission,that one of their agents is working on capturing and reverse engineering another pilot factions ship to turn it against them,then,rebels would be sent to rori (rebel base) imperials to dantooine (imperial base) and freelancers to tatooine (jabba and all),when arriving and talking to this NPC,s/he will explain their plans to attempt a highjack on one of the two other factions ships,and will ask you which you would like to work on capturing.
once accepted,you will be sent on a VERY HARD (VERY hard,bring-lots-of-friends type of hard) tier 5 mission against one of your two enemy factions training grounds,in which you will go up against waves of tier 5 fighters,a few gunboats,and eventually a corvette (maybe) once through that,you will continue to the easy part,a deadspace hyperpoint,that will appear on your and your group members hyperspace map after killing the boss type ship (corvette,or maybe gaggle of gunboats) this point will contain many special NPCs in various craft from your enemy factions pilot tree.you will be forced to now fight these off (mix of tier 1 trainees,tier 3 advanced trainees,and tier 5 trainers) in all different types of ships,when clear,you will get a message saying your radar has picked up something warping in,there will be 5 POB ships,all tier 5,one fo them,custom named and all,will be labeled "*faction* *POB ship name* trainee pilot,they will immediatly open fire on your group,you will need to destroy the 4 extras,and disable to trainee's (note killing the trainee will result in having to start over).
once disabled,you will board his ship,and with the help of an assault droid given to you by the mission giver,clear the ships's crew,which will consist of 10-15 people (im talking about being warped onto to ship with the droid by your side,and killing them on-board),once they are all dead,you will go up to the pilot seat,and choose pilot ship,the droid will pilot your ship back to your last landed port,and you will "be given instructions on piloting the ship by the ships training computer",once that small little cut scene,or something like that,maybe just a message box,is done,you gain complete comtrol of the ship (consisting of nothing but an engine,speed 60,two armor paltes 2k health,one shield generator 4k health,and a reactor 15k energy(all parts will be destroyed upon recieving the ship) you will then have to warp back to your NPC's planet,you you will immediatly land by his station upen /comm'ing the station,talk to him,and s/he'll give you the run around,exellent work,and award you with your own special ship of that faction,called "highjacked *ship name*",you will recieve a piloting certification for the ship (the custom only,you will NOT be able to fly shipwright made ones) and the ship in blueprint form,and shoudl the ship ever be plugged,you may go back to your given NPC to recieve a new one for the low-low price of 2 million credits...
anyway,thats my idea,tell me if you like it,maybe forward it to the devs and see if they'll listen 
thanks for reading that kind of long,jumbled mess,also forgot to mention this:they could noyl be done once per pilot proffession finish,once you completed it,youd have to start pilot over in order to do it again,and if you did the same pilot prof again,you would still need to do it over
thanks for reading that kind of long,jumbled mess,also forgot to mention this:they could noyl be done once per pilot proffession finish,once you completed it,youd have to start pilot over in order to do it again,and if you did the same pilot prof again,you would still need to do it overanother edit
ut it into a more paragraph-ish form,didnt know it was hard to read,i had no problems but i guess i can understand why others would
ut it into a more paragraph-ish form,didnt know it was hard to read,i had no problems but i guess i can understand why others wouldMessage Edited by dragon90 on 04-29-2005 05:14 PM
Message Edited by dragon90 on 04-29-2005 07:39 PM
Washell
Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:43 pm
#269
You love the decimator, big lump of mess, it's your idea and you agree it's a big lump of mess, hmm.
Dev's read this forum, they don't decipher it.
Durgan_Kael
Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:26 pm
#271
Washell wrote:
You love the decimator, big lump of mess, it's your idea and you agree it's a big lump of mess, hmm.
Dev's read this forum, they don't decipher it.
I didn't know they even did that
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psychobh
Sun May 08, 2005 6:00 pm
#273
Most people on the jedi forums are more interested in how bhs are ruining their life so maybe my other family here can answer my question for me. Is clear states goiing to be as uneffective after the re-spec period as it is right now? My jedi is mls mdef 4400 healer but before the cu he was 4004 healer. With kd recovery now and dizzy not like it use to be there is pretty much no reason to have clear states. I am just wondering though if the devs in their infinite wisdom make it so jedi have to have clear states later on after the re-spec period or if they are gonna leave it like it is. If they do that, that will mean alot of grinding that I don't wanna do. If you guys could help that would be great.