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burton1978
Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:09 am
#248

Kaleb
Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:08 am
#249



ignore.


mods please delete.

Message Edited by Kaleb on 11-23-2004 06:10 AM



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mikedoinda420
Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:31 pm
#250

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Message Edited by mikedoinda420 on 11-28-2004 03:57 PM

Himef
Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:16 pm
#251

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BlackJango
Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:19 pm
#252

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Nicolas_Frost
Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:12 pm
#253

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Imspaced
Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:36 pm
#254

Me thinks if you want MDF so bad get MAster Lightsaber Master DF 4--4 Heals....



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RodiTyrone
Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:11 pm
#255

So i read all the post belonging that discussion and my nice Idea of becoming Master Lightsaber and Masterdefender is now just a bad dream.This all sounds like the Master Defender is not worth doing at all. I mean the Melee Defense has got now really effect in PvP the Ranged Defense is useless as well as the State Defense (i mean Dizzy/KD and Intimidate are the hardest states in game)Avoid Incap. ok sounds nice but without healer it seems to be not that strong. So my question: Is the Master Defender really so weak as i think. I mean i prefer to do some of the enhancer stuff instead of the healing(like 80% of the jedis) but atm i doubt this would be a good desicion until maybe the Combat Revamp will take place
jball2k
Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:25 pm
#256






JemyM wrote:



Blind
Accuracy -50%


First number is the accuracy, second is accuracy when blinded.


Pistoleer 95/47,5 and 65/32,5 While Moving
Carbineer 130/65 and 100/70 While Moving
Rifleman 160/80 and 110/55 While Moving
Pistoleer/BH 165/82,5 and 135/67,5 While Moving
Carbineer/BH 200/100 and 170/85 While Moving


TKM 205/102,5
Fencer 170/85
Swordman 130/65
Pikeman 150/75


4/4 75/32,5
MLS 100/50

So, would 115 MD and 115 RD (2 Aa'kuan rings) have effect?
Yeah, I would definitely say so. In fact, a Defender using HeadHit3 and Pikatta Pie should theoretically manage to stay alive for quite awhile as long as he keeps his opponents blinded.


Furthermore, its rumoured that Blindness increases chance of KD/Dizzy, and chance of falling over when Dizzy.


It should also be known that Stun (Carbineer favorite) is rumoured to halve Block, and MLS have no damage reduction vs ranged. 42,5% block and 0 damage reduction is not too much fun.


Message Edited by JemyM on 01-20-2005 03:28 PM


Message Edited by JemyM on 01-20-2005 11:40 PM




Blind doesn't cut your accuracy THAT much. There's no way. Blind only affects accuracy, not dizzy/kd lol.


A Carbineer stunning a Jedi halves block? Not a chance


TKA get's the same state, unarmed stun. It cuts all defenses (excluding toughness) in half or a little less than half and lowers damage output






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johnautry613
Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:30 am
#257






RodiTyrone wrote:
So i read all the post belonging that discussion and my nice Idea of becoming Master Lightsaber and Masterdefender is now just a bad dream.This all sounds like the Master Defender is not worth doing at all. I mean the Melee Defense has got now really effect in PvP the Ranged Defense is useless as well as the State Defense (i mean Dizzy/KD and Intimidate are the hardest states in game)Avoid Incap. ok sounds nice but without healer it seems to be not that strong. So my question: Is the Master Defender really so weak as i think. I mean i prefer to do some of the enhancer stuff instead of the healing(like 80% of the jedis) but atm i doubt this would be a good desicion until maybe the Combat Revamp will take place






Melee Defense and Ranged defense are not 'usless'. Even if you look at them through the limited vision of PVP they are not useless.


I will need WAY more convinving that State defense is bugged.


and the toughness you get is versus EVERYTHING, not just melee.


The other part I would say is that you need healer no matter waht template you get. At minimum 3004 if not 4004.

Message Edited by johnautry613 on 01-22-2005 06:35 AM



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jball2k
Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:39 pm
#258






johnautry613 wrote:






RodiTyrone wrote:
So i read all the post belonging that discussion and my nice Idea of becoming Master Lightsaber and Masterdefender is now just a bad dream.This all sounds like the Master Defender is not worth doing at all. I mean the Melee Defense has got now really effect in PvP the Ranged Defense is useless as well as the State Defense (i mean Dizzy/KD and Intimidate are the hardest states in game)Avoid Incap. ok sounds nice but without healer it seems to be not that strong. So my question: Is the Master Defender really so weak as i think. I mean i prefer to do some of the enhancer stuff instead of the healing(like 80% of the jedis) but atm i doubt this would be a good desicion until maybe the Combat Revamp will take place






Melee Defense and Ranged defense are not 'usless'. Even if you look at them through the limited vision of PVP they are not useless.


I will need WAY more convinving that State defense is bugged.


and the toughness you get is versus EVERYTHING, not just melee.


The other part I would say is that you need healer no matter waht template you get. At minimum 3004 if not 4004.


Message Edited by johnautry613 on 01-22-2005 06:35 AM




I had State Defense 4


I was dizzied/blind/stunned damn near everytime a Jedi used Dervish 2 on me.


It's a useless skill


there was a big thread about State Defense and the testers came to find it was broken






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MajesticJester
Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:43 pm
#259






jball2k wrote:





johnautry613 wrote:






RodiTyrone wrote:
So i read all the post belonging that discussion and my nice Idea of becoming Master Lightsaber and Masterdefender is now just a bad dream.This all sounds like the Master Defender is not worth doing at all. I mean the Melee Defense has got now really effect in PvP the Ranged Defense is useless as well as the State Defense (i mean Dizzy/KD and Intimidate are the hardest states in game)Avoid Incap. ok sounds nice but without healer it seems to be not that strong. So my question: Is the Master Defender really so weak as i think. I mean i prefer to do some of the enhancer stuff instead of the healing(like 80% of the jedis) but atm i doubt this would be a good desicion until maybe the Combat Revamp will take place






Melee Defense and Ranged defense are not 'usless'. Even if you look at them through the limited vision of PVP they are not useless.


I will need WAY more convinving that State defense is bugged.


and the toughness you get is versus EVERYTHING, not just melee.


The other part I would say is that you need healer no matter waht template you get. At minimum 3004 if not 4004.


Message Edited by johnautry613 on 01-22-2005 06:35 AM




I had State Defense 4


I was dizzied/blind/stunned damn near everytime a Jedi used Dervish 2 on me.


It's a useless skill


there was a big thread about State Defense and the testers came to find it was broken







state defense 4 = 50% which equals every other hit you will get states


whats broken about it?


JemyM
Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:43 pm
#260

Will be more useful after CU when you cannot pummel stategiving specials all the time. 10 dervish2 in 10 seconds... if you are not stated on attack 1, you are surely stated on attack 2 or 3





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