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Lom
Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:41 am
#14








sumner wrote:




Why pay for 3 different TIE Fighters when this is the ultimate one and you can use it with only one earned skillbox!





Because it costs as much as three low end ships :0 .


By the way , unless you are actually a new player and really can't afford one it's well worth the cost.









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Attacca
Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:03 am
#15

And to be fair, you learn a LOT about mass management in the Imperial tree, if you don't take the Heavy TIE.


Not that I wouldn't do it myself as a new player. Just gotta point out that you will miss some of your unofficial, "training."







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BuzzBot
Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:04 am
#16

Ohhh ya, I sure learned about mass managment...and how much easier rebels and freelancers have it. lol



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Davriel
Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:06 am
#17


i have over a million credits do you think i could pay for a heavy tie


BuzzBot
Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:10 am
#18

Easily. You could buy several. They're more than a tier 4 ship on Valcyn, but that's because of the asteroid required to make it. My guess is it's about 300k.



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Alarien
Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:14 am
#19

Standard going for heavy variants is 300-500k on Starsider.


"Not that I wouldn't do it myself as a new player. Just gotta point out that you will miss some of your unofficial, "training.""



Yeah, true, but if you didn't have to, why would you? Hehe.


Honestly, if my alt wasn't a master shipwright, I probably would go the standard TIE fighter way, up through the tree, but since he can MAKE a heavy TIE, why wouldn't he?





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BuzzBot
Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:30 am
#20

I've been cramming crap-for-parts into crap-for-ships since I joined the ranks of the Imperial Inquisition! And then I stopped when I got my Heavy TIE. lol



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sumner
Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:56 am
#21






Alarien wrote:


"Engine: Mark V 33K mass 114 speed"


YPR? My guess is that this is not a good engine. If you want "turns on a dime" you should see what some real engines do.


Started to mess around with a Heavy TIE this weekend on my alt. I'm not a fan of the gunplacement or the single blaster hardpoint, but its a very solid ship, and quite capable. I wouldn't like it more than my regular Adv. X-Wing or Belbullab, but a great ship if you want to make the Imperial grind one heck of a lot easier.






WellI did say that the crafted parts were made my SW alt right before dropping SW, I had decent resources but nothing spectactular. The PYR of the engine is 62/62/59 - roll is plenty fast at pretty much any value. This gives the Heavy TIEPYR accleration values of 8.7/8.7/4.4 compaired to1.7/1.7/0.9 for an Oppressor with the same engine loaded. (hit v in space to see them) The Heavy has such high multipliers that even lower PYR engines give spectacular resutls. I think you can see why I said it turns on a dime =) Nothing in this mass class that is available to an Imperial Pilot comes close.




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The_Widowmaker
Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:20 am
#22

Gonna have to disagree.....


Eta-2 is BY FAR the best Imperial ship in the game for fighting. I am 4/3/3/3 with some decent Re'd gear and I kill tier 5s for fun and loot.


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Bell-22 is almost as good, but the profile is bigger than the Eta-2 so it gets hit more.





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agent156
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:07 am
#23



The_Widowmaker wrote:

Bell-22 is almost as good, but the profile is bigger than the Eta-2 so it gets hit more.






As if 90% of the people that fly the JSF could hit the side of a barn. I use my Bell just to give them a chance.
Zef_Gaidin
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:08 am
#24


i agree about the eta-2. it's definitely the best. i'd say followed by the Imperial Guard and then the b-22.

but i can see the benefits of the heavy varient as a grinding ship to get you to the better ones (or right to master).


they go for about 300-500k on Chilastra too. but i did a vendor search on Ahazi... the only one i seen on the listing was priced at a whopping 750k. that's the server i'm a shipwright on, so if that's the standard, my prices aught to sell out pretty well... once i gather the resources at any rate.


and like Agent... i tend to use my b-22 for just about everything. heh.

Message Edited by Zef_Gaidin on 07-12-2005 05:09 AM

Alarien
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:38 am
#25

"The PYR of the engine is 62/62/59 - roll is plenty fast at pretty much any value. "


Err... that engine is crap. I disagree on roll also, as roll can help you tighten a turn quite a bit in a dogfight. I am constantly rolling inmost fights against good PVP dogfighters. While the Heavy TIE may get a nice bonus to the stats of the engine, it's still not going to be out turning JSFs running 72+ PYR or even X-wings running 81+ PYR. Not even close. On top of that, the Heavy TIE has a large target box on its profile, due to that obnoxiously large panel, making it a much easier target than it should be.



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ImpDoc_001
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:53 am
#26

I built Aivo's heavy TIE. My price of 300k is mid-range for Valcyn, 275k being lowest and 650k being the highest I've seen. I charge an average cpu for the normal resources, and 10cpu for the space resources, which I mine myself when I get a chance. Combining the two figures, I came up with 300k. It's a fair price, makes me a little profit, and keeps people like Aivo coming back for a special part, or an upgraded ship. I'm not really in the shipwright business to make a fortune, more for my own use as a pilot. Being able to make some money, help out other people, and learn more about the game is a huge plus.


My shipwright is an ace RSF pilot, and flies a YT-1300 and the JSF. I bought a B-22 the other day and tried it out, but didn't have a setup I liked, not enough to get a good feel for it. I was going to rebuild my Vaksai, but I found the B-22 for a low price and couldn't help myself. I'll be rebuilding the Vaksai before I finalize a setup for the B-22.


My combat character is slowly climbing the ranks of the Inquisition, using a heavy TIE. I've gone so far as 3433 Storm Squadron and 3333 Inquisition before, so I know about mass management. Being able to not worry about it right now is a plus.





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