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sumner
Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:38 am
#27






Alarien wrote:

"The PYR of the engine is 62/62/59 - roll is plenty fast at pretty much any value. "


Err... that engine is crap. I disagree on roll also, as roll can help you tighten a turn quite a bit in a dogfight. I am constantly rolling inmost fights against good PVP dogfighters. While the Heavy TIE may get a nice bonus to the stats of the engine, it's still not going to be out turning JSFs running 72+ PYR or even X-wings running 81+ PYR. Not even close. On top of that, the Heavy TIE has a large target box on its profile, due to that obnoxiously large panel, making it a much easier target than it should be.






You are missing my point entirely. Who cares about my particular engine. I was only listing it as an example of whatI use, and the fact that the TIE Heavy (along with all the ROTW ships) have major boosts to PYR acceleration comparied to the JTL launch fighters. The JSF has the same values for acceleration (and pretty much mass)as the heavy tie. With equal engines they will turn the same. The point of this thread was asking if the Heavy TIE was a good ship to get, and it is the best ship a 1XXX Imperial pilot can get, period. Yes the JSF is a much smaller target, but you can not fly it until 4xxx so it does our original poster no good at this time. Even at 400K it is a bargin because you can use it until you stop playing JTL, it is not a throw away ship like all the others. Your TIE ln, TIe Interceptor, and TIE advanced will not be flown after you get certed for a higher ship, mainly due to the low mass of the imperial ships. Sure you can PvP in an interceptor (I did before the heavy TIE) or an advanced, but you are better off taking the extra firepower that the oppressors mass allows to guarantee a one shot kill.




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Alarien
Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:44 am
#28

Sounded like you were arguing that a lesser engine on a TIE Heavy would make for a superior ship to me, but I guess that's how I took it. As for your comment on mass class and what's available to 1xxx pilots, I think I indicated that as well. Its a good ship, I just didn't really care for it compared to my Rebellion babies. And no, I don't have, own, or otherwise fly a JSF. If I had to choose from the current Imperial crop, I would likely lean towards the Oppressor as well.



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Ducimus
Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:09 pm
#29



Attacca wrote:

And to be fair, you learn a LOT about mass management in the Imperial tree, if you don't take the Heavy TIE.

Not that I wouldn't do it myself as a new player. Just gotta point out that you will miss some of your unofficial, "training."






QFE.

and Later on you can feel good about yourself as ppl wonder why you can outfly/out kill their JSF's. I espicaly love the, "what do you have in that thing?!" kind of comments.



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CommTampers
Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:59 am
#30






Kryxal wrote:
A second weapon and more spread on the fire would be nice, though ... I'm beginning to see just WHY Imp pilots hate A-Wings.





Be careful what you wish for. I'd rather have centered fire than the wide fire like the Z95 or the ARC 170. The wide spread make the Z95 a bit more akward. It requires Yawing into the target. As for Awings, which I flew since T4 up untilROTW, the spread is nasty when trying to track Ties.




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misto78
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:25 pm
#31

on my server(flurry) heavy ties are 400k i am going to restart imperial pilot soon(i was put into storm squadren and its too hard) so i really need one. is there any quests or another way to obtain a heavy tie because i dont have 400k to spend
idolatry
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:38 pm
#32

Spend one hour on a Tier 3 spawn, sell the loot = 400k.


No quests to gain it, only available from your nearest shipwright. You could do a deal and mine the 1000 Iron Asteroid and 1000 Petrochem Asteroid that it takes to make one of them, and that would reduce the price by a good 200k.





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misto78
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:40 pm
#33

im only 2222 so i would get my butt handed to me by a whole spawn of tier 3s guess ill have to kill 2s for awile
idolatry
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:44 pm
#34

My apologies, I thought you were closer to Master.


Do the beginning of the mining quests from Kashyyyk, get yourself a free mining laser and cargo hold. Then you can go mine the resources yourself. Offer to trade with the SW, he/she will probably give you a pretty good deal. It's the asteroid resources that really push up the price.





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misto78
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:45 pm
#35

hate to be a bother but could you tell me where to start that quest thanks
idolatry
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:47 pm
#36


Kashyyyk, Kachiro Spaceport. Inside the tree cantina, level 1 (I think), and talk to Flash Harrison.


Little bit of leg work to get the free stuff, but nothing too arduous.



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misto78
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:57 pm
#37

thanks man ill try that
idolatry
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:59 pm
#38

No problem.


On the Pilot forum, there's a post somewhere called "Red Dwarfs Idiots Guide to Space Mining" that you might wanna have a look at. Might answer some questions.





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emef
Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:24 am
#39

what is the cert required to fly the heavy tie? I cannot seem to find it



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