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JTL will be a definite "up" for SWGalaxies.

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0p3c wrote:

I don't mean to sound completely negative, here. I'd like to say I've been blown away by the movies and screenshots...and I'll probalby buy it just 'cause I love SWG so much.

But I just think the devs could've found a way to tie the two together better. From the looks of it, space is a big battleground. And I agree, there isn't (even in real life) a lot in space, it seems.

Also I've heard there are space stations, but you cannot board them. And the devs have said there will be no new planets for the game. :/ Even allowing starships to be the only means of getting to certain places would've been more incentive for me to get a starship.

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I see what you are getting at, all the stuff you are asking for will not be in the game when it gose live as the devs wanted to get the core or JTL out first. In the future they are looking to add more stuff to JTL and SWG, so we could still get space mining and stuff like that in the near future but for now you can just fly around and look at the sites if you don't want to fight in space you don't have to.

Message Edited by OckVofad on 10-15-2004 08:49 AM

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0p3c wrote:

Reebeel: First of all, there HAVE BEEN games where you can fight others over the internet in starships. There hasn't been an MMO that's meshed ground/space together, though.

Howeover, the reason "PvP in space" doesn't interest me much is that PvP in this game is useless. You gain nothing through PvP. The war does not progress or change. The GCW affects nothing on the ground...and if it doesn't in space either, then what's the point?

I've played tons of action space games. Shooting at ships could get very old after...say...a week?

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If you're looking for a strategy game you're in he wrong place. Aside from the three part story arch, when has the GCW ever played a roll in one faction or another having an advantage at anything? Did you come to this game from Planetside? That's the only MMO I know of that you can gain control of territory in, and that gets old fast since there's not many live people playing it (it might be due to the controls are garbage, but that's neither here, or there). You might want to talk with J3st3r the GCW correspondent if you want territory control other then static bases effected.

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Reebeel wrote:

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0p3c wrote:

Reebeel: First of all, there HAVE BEEN games where you can fight others over the internet in starships. There hasn't been an MMO that's meshed ground/space together, though.

Howeover, the reason "PvP in space" doesn't interest me much is that PvP in this game is useless. You gain nothing through PvP. The war does not progress or change. The GCW affects nothing on the ground...and if it doesn't in space either, then what's the point?

I've played tons of action space games. Shooting at ships could get very old after...say...a week?

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Ever heard of Fun? The other point is to become the best pilot ever...unlike the ground game where the only thing that matters in PvP is how good of a template you have, in space there will be people "famous" in the game because they are really good with a joystick. It will actually involve skill, rather than time. I'm sure the piloting skill tree wil make a little difference but not too much. I really am looking forward to good ol' PvP that relies on skills, rather than templates.

BTW I'm sure whoever has a better ship will make a difference too...however the people who will become "famous" in jtls are the people who beat a super X-wing with there starter ship/

Message Edited by Reebeel on 10-15-2004 07:05 AM

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That's one interpretation. Here is another.... I started to play SWG because I wanted to be a part of the SWG galaxy, that isn't the case. I am a big RPer and have tried to RP in this game but it just doesn't go that well. This game was meant to be an RPG game but it didn't turn out that way. And what's the difference between getting the best template in ground game and becoming the best pilot in the space game? IMHO nothing, as those trying to get the best template are doing so to be the best fighter in the ground game and those in space are trying to be the best fighter in space. If all you need to do to have fun is fly and shoot, fly and shoot, then you'll enjoy JTL, and that'sas far as the content goes in the ground game, run and shoot, run and shoot.But for those of us that actually wanted to play the game, to be a part of the SWG universe JTL, like the ground game, is missing alot to be desired (actual content wise).

You know I remeber the first annoucements about this game that I read. I was so excited, they said stuff like, live the life of Han Solo, be a crime lord like Jabba, or a Jedi like Luke. Well that still remains to be seen in my eyes. Sure I am the same profession as Han, but I am not actually living the life of one such as Han. This game so far lacks the mechanics and content for this, and that goes for JTL as well.

Message Edited by Kelko on 10-15-2004 09:23 PM

Message Edited by Kelko on 10-15-2004 09:24 PM

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0p3c wrote:

From what I've seen/read (and no, I'm not in beta or anything) Jump to Lightspeed is going to let players take starfighters and a few other types of ships into space and have faction battles there, right? And there are space-based missions I assume.

Is that it? Nothing more?

Since there is no space mining or real exploration (or reason to do so), are starships nothing more than a new way for people to PvP? And perhaps a cheaper/quicker way to fly planet-to-planet?

As nice as all the movies and screenshots have been, I think this expansion is going to be an overhyped graphics-heavy shooter mini-game add-on to SWG. That is extremely lame. :/

I'm a neutral crafter...what reason do I have to go into space? Pretty graphics are great for advertising, but if the gameplay and depth aren't there, JTL is going to be very lame. It MAY BE groundwork for some spectacular things in the future, but isn't that exactly what the whole game is right now?

Thoughts? Opinions? Flames? Secret beta info?

Message Edited by 0p3c on 10-15-2004 06:44 AM

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As a beta tester YEs. It will help.Lets just say the jedi grind will end for a while because people will realize space is alot more fun(I'm a jedi too). Thats all I can say. I reccomend everyone buy it.

Message Edited by PikemanAreRarerThanJedi on 10-15-2004 09:24 PM

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Morda wrote:

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Reebeel wrote:

I can't believe I heard "Space PvP...is that it?" I can't believe you said that...there has never been a game where you can fight someone over the internet in starships. It is going to be awesome. In answer to your question "JTL-Will it really help this game?" my answer is "ummm yeah"

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Never been a game where you can fight someone over the internet in starships? How about Earth and Beyond, Xwing v. Tie orFreelancer? Its not even the first SW game with PvP via the Internet. And yeah....there needs to be something more than just blowing stuff up to keep most people long term. If the ground game taught the devs anything it should at least be that just destroying things in a repetitive fashion is not enough.

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/agree

Very well put, my sentiments exactly.

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Caine_Chapel wrote:

Well morda there's never been a game that has as much to do as SWG once JTL comes out. There's never been an MMO or multiplayer game that i know of that will have so many different systems in place. So this is a step in the direction of all encompassing games heh.

Just think what we'll have 10 years from now

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If it takes them ten years to get this game right then I won't be around. So far this game isn't even close to the way they touted it would be after they announced it's development.