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Thread: Tie's have no hyperdrive

HelRayzer
Fri May 21, 2004 7:55 am
#222

Will an unofficial transcript do for you? I'll leave the Aersp course grades in it so you check them? Have to wait a couple weeks for the real deal. Of course the transcript doesn't have my name on it. Will you just piss and moan about that? Because either way you will just say that it isn't mine.



Rayzer Shynes
Master Rifleman/Ranger
ASHRID
Fri May 21, 2004 7:55 am
#223

First - I said _older_ source


Second - perhaps you'd like to address the issues at hand rather than attempt a stonewalling tactic
Metroid
Fri May 21, 2004 7:56 am
#224






HelRayzer wrote:
Will an unofficial transcript do for you? I'll leave the Aersp course grades in it so you check them? Have to wait a couple weeks for the real deal. Of course the transcript doesn't have my name on it. Will you just piss and moan about that? Because either way you will just say that it isn't mine.






Sorry, you said you had the Bachelor's available to scan and send RIGHT NOW to prove how much you know- if you can't do it, you lied. Why would you lie on a forum? Are you that hell bent on being right? Awww.. poor guy



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ASHRID
Fri May 21, 2004 8:04 am
#225


Met,


Until you actually follow through with the initial discussion points you raise I have nothing further to say to you. Its obvious you have nothing to back up anything you say beyond 'SOE are licenced so they must be right!' - as you say WEG did occasionally 'get it wrong' for whatever reason, yet you dont seem to be able to apply this concept to SOE!


The fact that you need to highlightthe 'victories' you think you have made in this thread only serves to prove they dont exist (otherwise the reader will see them for themselves). Either show us that the cut aways I have supplied have been contradicted in another authorised source (and I'll make it easier for you) before or since their publication for starters or do us all a favour and stop making challenges you can see through


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Typos

Message Edited by ASHRID on 05-21-2004 04:05 PM

HelRayzer
Fri May 21, 2004 8:07 am
#226



Let me try your tactics Metroid:


I said:


can send you a copy of my Bachelor's degree in Aerospace Engineering if you would like. If you would wait about 2 months, I can fax you over myMaster's degree too


You sai:

Sorry, you said you had the Bachelor's available to scan and send RIGHT NOW to prove how much you know- if you can't do it, you lied. Why would you lie on a forum? Are you that hell bent on being right? Awww.. poor guy


Where do the words right now appear in my sentence. Oh until you can proveI said right now, I won't respnd to this. And since the Unofficial transcript isn't good enough for you, I guess you will never know.



Rayzer Shynes
Master Rifleman/Ranger
Metroid
Fri May 21, 2004 8:12 am
#227






ASHRID wrote:


Met,


Until you actually follow through with the initial discussion points you raise I have nothing further to say to you. Its obvious you have nothing to back up anything you say beyond 'SOE are licenced so they must be right!' - as you say WEG did occasionally 'get it wrong' for whatever reason, yet you dont seem to be able to apply this concept to SOE!


The fact that you need to highlightthe 'victories' you think you have made in this thread only serves to prove they dont exist (otherwise the reader will see them for themselves). Either show us that the cut aways I have supplied have been contradicted in another authorised source (and I'll make it easier for you) before or since their publication for starters or do us all a favour and stop making challenges you can see through


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Typos

Message Edited by ASHRID on 05-21-2004 04:05 PM




It's simple, really. I'm tired of arguing with you people. Your entire point about TIE fighters not being able to have hyperdrive is THEORY. Theory can't be proven. So your never going to admit your wrong about them *possibly* being able to have hyperdrive.


You'll just keep reinforcing the fact that YOU think YOUR right and the people MAKING THE GAME are wrong. That's why I don't care/insult you people. There's just no way to "win" this arguement.


Your "cutaway's" are the only evidence you have, in a huge, long, boring debate. I honestly have to laugh that you would go so far in order to prove something that doesn't matter either way. Continuity is broken in a hundred places in this game, but you want to 'match' continuity in one area that would unbalance the game no matter how you resolved the issue. Even providing transport ships would unbalance the game- your forcing Imp players to wait while Reb players can just jump.


I'm, personally arguing because if people like you are left unchecked, games get ruined. As has been said atleast a half a dozen times by other people- Fun > Continuity. This is not a Starwars SIMULATOR. It's a MMORPG based on Starwars.


If the DEVS have decided Tie fighters can have hyperdrive- then obviously lucas arts isn't disagreeing, are they?


Which blows your entire debate out of the water.





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HelRayzer
Fri May 21, 2004 8:20 am
#228


Message Edited by HelRayzer on 05-21-2004 11:31 AM



Rayzer Shynes
Master Rifleman/Ranger
Metroid
Fri May 21, 2004 8:23 am
#229






HelRayzer wrote:

Here you go Metroid: Got my proof for you. Took me a while to find something you can't refute. Here is a link to the High Performance Computing Graduate Minor at Penn State. Check #58. And because I know you won't belive me, send an email to that address, and I will be sure to email you right away little guy.

http://www.psu.edu/dept/ihpca/minor/stulist.html

Message Edited by HelRayzer on 05-21-2004 11:21 AM





B-A-C-H-E-L-O-R-S


Stop changing the subject and back up your bull hooey.



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ASHRID
Fri May 21, 2004 8:28 am
#230

Well I'm sorry you have declined to actualy partake in a mature civilised and rational debate and as a result I will be putting you on ignore shortly (I realise you wont actually care).


If you are so confident in the devs why do you feel the need to fight your corner?


I take offence that 'people like me ruin games' I have seen many games IMO 'ruined' by people with an opinion other than mine - and thats all it comes down toif you think a game is 'ruined'....your opinion


So the devs chose to abandon the continuity in places?....does this means we should just forget about it completely from now on?


Ultimately the devs are not automatically 'right', a decision bydevs can make or break a game - if a decision breaks a game I'd wager that decision was wrong wouldnt you?


I'll be the first to admit that some changes are made (not necessarily in SWG) for the wrong reasons (and only because a large % of the playerbase is behind it) while that may make a decision 'right' from a business POV it doesnt mean it was the 'right' one from other POVs (depends where your priorities are)


I make no apology for supporting my arguments with established, authorised and authentic material and I still refuse to accept changes to these established factors simply because theres a new kid on the SW licence block (SOE). Continuity is what makes SWG Star Wars, without it, its just another 'me too' powerlevelling MMORPG with a bunch of PvP players who refuse to accept there are players with differing viewpoints than theirs - that not every game was made to cater to them, and that the 'RPG' in MMORPG doesnt stand for Rocket Propelled Grenade


I have no desire to make JTL unbalanced (I play an Imp) but I do have a desire to make JTL feel like Star Wars


Please dont bother to reply, you already know I'm not going to see it


Maybe the devs should just get everyone Force powers, a lightsabre and a Jedi Starfighter - it wont matter because they broke the continuity before didnt they..........


HelRayzer
Fri May 21, 2004 8:30 am
#231

Dude you are an idiot. I just proved it to you. So they just let basket weaving majors into Aerospace Grad school. I have shown you and you are just arguing to argue like you said. All your claims are weak and once I proved to you what you wanted you must prove to me what you said you would.



Rayzer Shynes
Master Rifleman/Ranger
Metroid
Fri May 21, 2004 8:33 am
#232






ASHRID wrote:

So the devs chose to abandon the continuity in places?....does this means we should just forget about it completely from now on?


Ultimately the devs are not automatically 'right', a decision bydevs can make or break a game - if a decision breaks a game I'd wager that decision was wrong wouldnt you?




Technically, the dev's have to take que's from Lucasarts. It's part of the reason they couldn't do combat droids, balance and because combat droids are illegal in this time frame. They aren't abandoning continuity- they just aren't fitting up to YOUR IDEA of continuity. As has been stated a hundred times now, there are ways for a TIE to have hyperdrive, even if you don't like it, and really, that's what the whole issue is, isn't it? You don't like it.





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Metroid
Fri May 21, 2004 8:36 am
#233






HelRayzer wrote:
Dude you are an idiot. I just proved it to you. So they just let basket weaving majors into Aerospace Grad school. I have shown you and you are just arguing to argue like you said. All your claims are weak and once I proved to you what you wanted you must prove to me what you said you would.






I'm not even reading your posts until you prove what you already stated. BACHELORS. I know you lied, I'm calling your bluff and your trying to dodge it. I'm not going to let you. Nothing you say will prove anything until you prove you weren't lieing about your Bachelor's.


Now again, prove it little guy.



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HelRayzer
Fri May 21, 2004 8:46 am
#234

Well I more than proved it. You continue to lie as you have the whole time Metroid. As Ashrid has already stated it is pointless to waste any more time with you. This whole time we have presented you with info to prove you wrong. You haven't givenany proof yourself. And don't say Well JTL is doing it so we are wrong. So by your strict adherence to JTL does it so it is right, that would mean that in Star Wars movies people just pulled spacecraft out of their datapad, and flew away as well as all the other breaks from continuity. You state that whatever SOE does with the game must be the way it is because they have a liscense from Lucas Arts. If you truely feel that way (of course you don't you are just arguing to argue) then ok, but you really don't know that much about Star Wars then. So good bye Metroid. It's obvious we have both been just posting to argue and build up our post numbers the last day. So I'll be the bigger man here, because you never could be "little guy." Flame away but I am done, and I encourage nobody else to post here anymore, it has truely become a waste of time.



Rayzer Shynes
Master Rifleman/Ranger
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