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SaberTigerJ wrote:

Id like to know what is the best joystick that is smooth moveing (not hard at all to move), has alot of buttons, twist handle, throttle, and force feedback.

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Oh and if any one knows how to fix that problem i get with speed with the x45, please post it.

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x52?

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Saturn96 wrote:

The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, works great with JTL. Dont let the cheap price fool yah, its just another reason to get one. The heavy base keeps it from sliding and tilting over.

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totally agree. all players i've recommended the stick too never had one complaint. Its a good size and nice well placed buttons. Throttle is simple and easy to manage, just an overall good stick.

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Dronayus wrote:

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Saturn96 wrote:

The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, works great with JTL.

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..... just an overall good stick.

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I couldn't agree more. Check out Amazon.com. I got mine for $20.00 brand new.

Message Edited by MajorReb on 11-10-2004 10:10 PM

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Saturn96 wrote:

The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, works great with JTL. Dont let the cheap price fool yah, its just another reason to get one. The heavy base keeps it from sliding and tilting over.

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I was fussing with one of those today in my as-yet futile search for an X52 to play with.
I can say that, to date, Logitech's sticks have _the_best_ feel to them of any modern stick I've tried. They're slick, solid, and just plain feel good.

Having said that, the only reason I haven't bought one is due to it's [relative] lack of multi-directional switches. I was spoiled for years by my SUNCOM F-15E Talon (which had three buttons + trigger, a hat switch and a castle switch) back when I had a computer with an AT keyboard port, and now the presence of at least two mutli-directional switches is required for me.
However, if you're not so spoiled as me, I'd buy one of these in an instant.

it too bad microsoft discontinued the sidewinder joysticks i have mine and love it if you can find one in good conditionor stillonthe shelf i'd grab it

Incidentally, the Logitech Freedom 2.4 has an absolutely BRILLIANT feel to it, and is one of the best sticks on the market in my opinion. For those of you that hate batteries or high price tags, they make a near-identical stick with a wire on it for $40.