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Thread: Joysticks 101: Buyers Guide
DathoImilli
Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:33 am
#222
Vendor_Inside_TM wrote:
hehe
read this thread some time...
trying to use my old ps analog pad... worx fine, but too sensitive-cant be adjusted,no force
so now watched some newer sticks...
but i still need suggestions, pls
need a stick with:
-maaaany buttons, including 1 or 2 shifts... btw it says on some saitek it had 2 shifts... is that 1 function on 2 buttons, or 2 functions???
- force feedback
-general good quality (centering, feeling, adjustability, handling)
-maybe wireless (are there any with force+wireless?...usb is limited to 3m, right?(have my cpu 10m away:-)
my choice would be saiteks evo force, but it aint wirelss... anyone has it?how longs the cable??isit worth 60€??
thx for any advice
For a reasonably priced stick the saitek x45 has the most buttons. The x52 is the new version but saitek and LA are working together to get it to work in JTL so I'd hold off on buying one till it works.
Wireless does not have force feed back because the batteries can't run the servos. I don't really like forcefeedback myself. It's fun for a while but in the long wrong it's just a hassle.
For a good quality stick I would recommend a logitech. Microsoft is a good stick as well but they are discontinued.
As far as distance from the computer, you can pick up a usb extension cable that will addmore lengthto the cord of any stick (i'm not sure the exact length limitations on USB and what happens when you get past them), I think they usually cost around $10 or $15 US.
Most sticks out now should have more than enough buttons to setup the way you want. I guess you'll need to determine what all you want to program to the stick and get an actual button count before you buy a stick.
Starcasmd
Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:11 pm
#224
I tried a Saitek for a different game awhile back... Never got it to work. The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is my first flight stick and I am very satisfied!
Anach
Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:26 pm
#226
SatansCircus wrote:
My 2 cents on a couple of those sticks.
The Saitek x45 may look kinda cool but it feels very awkward to handle and almost too toy like in it's action. Also if you can find enough deskspace for it, god bless you.
I personally use the Saitek Cyborg 3D gold, and I can tell you it is a very nice stick. It can be converted easily to left or right handed, and is very smooth and responsive. Has a fairly simple throttle bar which gets the job done well. I have no idea how SOE plans on utilizing programmable joysticks but this stick probably has plenty of buttons for anything the JTLS will throw at us.
Friend of mine bought a Saitek Evo, and i must say, yes it has lots of adjustments and looks kinda cool, but using it is very average.
-JungleKing-
Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:47 pm
#227
Any update on X52 and if it is now working on JTL??
Also where can i purchase that Joystick??
Thank you
Vendor_Inside_TM
Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:47 am
#228
i'm not sure the exact length limitations on USB and what happens when you get past them), I think they usually cost around $10 or $15 US.
ok..
i went with the saitek evo wireless
goddamn since its installation (usbdriver)it f´d up my firewall, which i cant reinstall since..also the stick never worked...damn it felt really nice
and the usb issue.. i asked my tech guy in work and he stated usb specs are limited to bout 5m, but u can extend it with a usb->cat5 adapter and back
the x-series ...hmm dunno bout hotas...need a hand for the keyboard aswell...
thx anyways...
ok..
i went with the saitek evo wireless
goddamn since its installation (usbdriver)it f´d up my firewall, which i cant reinstall since..also the stick never worked...damn it felt really nice
and the usb issue.. i asked my tech guy in work and he stated usb specs are limited to bout 5m, but u can extend it with a usb->cat5 adapter and back
the x-series ...hmm dunno bout hotas...need a hand for the keyboard aswell...
thx anyways...
OuijaChilastra
Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:44 am
#229
JungleKing, I bought one the other week and it's still not compatible. There is a thread in the tech support forum about it. I was just checking this thread to see if the readers of this thread were aware of the issue, because I found the X52 because of this thread.
Where to buy? I'm in the UK and got mine from gamecase (.co.uk) it was £25 less than retail.
Not sure about the US or wherever else, but a search on google or price check websites should come back with some results.
I'd just like to point out that even though it's incompatible with JTL (at this point in time), it's an amazing joystick and works excellent with all my other flight sims.
S-1-l2-H-C
Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:24 am
#230
ive been a hardcore desert combat fighter pilot for a long time, and i burned through 4 logitechs before i got my saitek cyborg. the logitechs do have a great feel to them, but they wear out fast and will lose accuracy. the saitek has lasted me three times as long as any logitech has, but its starting to spike on the z-axis now too, so i might need a new one soon.
if you are going for a logitech, buy it from a store that offers an extended warrenty and make them honor it when you wear it out a month down the road.
OuijaChilastra
Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:31 am
#232
Check out this thread for updates:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Techsupport&message.id=200899&page=5
Morgath
Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:12 am
#233
I just bought a Saitek Cyborg Evo Force , it is awesome. The 3D rudder makes turning very quick and it has amazing force feedback and resistance. Gets a bit tricky to aim ion cannons with the amount of recoil you get but for me it makes it much more immersive. Try testing the forces out in the calibration menu, you can feel chainsaws, miniguns and even a lightsaber, wow that really rocked.
Scheedo
Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:17 pm
#234
I have an old school Saitek X36 throttle and stick. Do these currently work with JTL? The X36 is basically like the new X series when joysticks werent requitred to have dorky colors and stickers on them. I have used the X36 in everything from Mechwarrior series to Freespace 2 and I love it, but I dont want to go through the trouble of recinfigging all my controls only to find out it doesnt work. I dont like single sticke because my twist handle logitech was unusable witht hat stupid twisty stick. Any force imparted on it would add in roll and got me killed way to many times before I gave it away.
Scheedo Wichi