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Thread: Is it worth it?

sciguyCO
Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:35 pm
#183

That depends. Why do you think it wouldn't be worth it?


I think it's safe to say that the skill mods will still work post-CU. Experimentation and asembly don't need changing (unlike combat mods like accuracy, damage, speed, etc which may be getting modified), so the two extra points you get from a +20 suit will still be around. Two points is another 14 or 16% that can be added to the experimental categories, so automatically get you a better product.


Of course, another concern (and maybe what you're really asking)is whether food itself of any quality is going to be worth it after the CU. If food becomes pointless (or only a niche market), then the 25 million or more spent on tapes might better have been spent on other investments.


Personally, my opinion is that buffs are an edge. Players like to get an edge, whether it's to take on bigger baddies in PvE, or to achieve victory in PvP. But whether or not food will keep the boom market it's had for the past year (post revamp) is something that is tough to predict. If buffs go from a "necessity" to a "nice to have", we will probably see a slump in either sales numbers or profits. All players (either consciously or unconsciously) look at purchases and go "will spending this money get me higher return on investment over the long run, and how long will that run be?" Our customers do it with our food, and we do it with attachments.





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BruSwillis
Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:40 pm
#184

We only have so much stomach to fill, so even if Chefs lose buff food, players will still use defensive foods, or other foods, I dont see the Chef profession dropping at all after the CU. Sales may well shift from one type of product to another but no way will the CU put an end to your profession.




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jadeew
Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:43 pm
#185

The problem we now face is what about the 200 mil in crates of buff foodscurrently on the vendorsthat are looking to be useless after the revamp and the time and premium resources that went into them. I am torn between keeping stock for the customers that have been with me for so long or haulting production to see how it all shakes out.



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Neomonk
Wed May 11, 2005 2:43 pm
#186

Is it worth it to get one full branch of defender or should I just put those skill elsewhere?


I am Master Defender now and don't see the real benefit of Avoid Incap (of course, I haven't used it much). So I was thinking of droppinga branch. Then I began to think that the only realskill I need is aura. This gives me the ability to get a lot more skills that I think I would need (and enjoy, like meditate and force run 2.... they aren't needed but I enjoy them).


So is it worth getting Improved Aura? I really like the idea of being a tank for PVE when we go on hunts with my guild and think I would enjoy having Master Lilghtsaber over Master Defender. But the DPS isn't that great and maybe the defenses would be better. And I hate the fact that I would be part of the new FOTM but I like being a tank for PVE.


My goal was to be Master Saber, 4140 Healer, 4004 Enhancer, 0040 Defender.



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Ohopo
Wed May 11, 2005 2:45 pm
#187

Well Avoid Incap is VERY useufl to me. This is like a god-mode for 30 seconds...




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Eked
Wed May 11, 2005 2:46 pm
#188

"don't see the real benefit of Avoid Incap"


that made me giggle in real life.




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Ohopo
Wed May 11, 2005 2:47 pm
#189






Eked wrote:

"don't see the real benefit of Avoid Incap"


that made me giggle in real life.






That made me fall outta my chair man




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cjc75
Wed May 11, 2005 2:48 pm
#190

ROFL


Avoid Incap means NO DEATH for 30 secs with a force feeder behind a MD you can take down any mob



Neomonk
Wed May 11, 2005 2:58 pm
#191

So I guess you are saying I should actually give Avoid Incap a chance?



Hmm, I kinda feel like a fool now.





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Neomonk
Wed May 11, 2005 3:01 pm
#192

Ok, so is Master Lightsaber worth it, then? I have 0404 sabers now and know how well it does. But am I missing out on not having the added speed and accuracy, not to mention the other moves (aka Dervish, Adv. Saber Throw, Spin Attack, etc)?


Remember, I like being the tank in pve, but currently with M. Defender and 0404 sabers, I have to rely on others for damage dealing. Would I still be a tank with 0040 defender and master sabers?



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Eked
Wed May 11, 2005 3:12 pm
#193






Neomonk wrote:

Ok, so is Master Lightsaber worth it, then? I have 0404 sabers now and know how well it does. But am I missing out on not having the added speed and accuracy, not to mention the other moves (aka Dervish, Adv. Saber Throw, Spin Attack, etc)?


Remember, I like being the tank in pve, but currently with M. Defender and 0404 sabers, I have to rely on others for damage dealing. Would I still be a tank with 0040 defender and master sabers?





wont be a tank and if you try you'll be healing 24/7.. I'm very happy with just 0404ls and master def... the other skills in mls dont interest me for various reasons. for one I dont want any kind of area attack now it does more harm than good IMO and that includes adv throw (area kd). as far as speed goes get force speed2 it helps a ton, this way you can tank and do a good amount of damage. and you can always obtain accuracy tapes in the future.

Message Edited by Eked on 05-11-2005 03:14 PM



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Neomonk
Wed May 11, 2005 3:19 pm
#194






Eked wrote:



wont be a tank and if you try you'll be healing 24/7.. I'm very happy with just 0404ls and master def... the other skills in mls dont interest me for various reasons. for one I dont want any kind of area attack now it does more harm than good IMO and that includes adv throw (area kd). as far as speed goes get force speed2 it helps a ton, this way you can tank and do a good amount of damage. and you can always obtain accuracy tapes in the future.


Message Edited by Eked on 05-11-2005 03:14 PM





I was thinking, though, that as a tank I would have multiple agro's on me and would benefit from an area attack. Especially an area KD with saber throw. Maybe I'm worrying too much. Since I will be in a group I won't have to do damage.



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RevonLuxa
Wed May 11, 2005 3:27 pm
#195





Neomonk wrote:

Ok, so is Master Lightsaber worth it, then? I have 0404 sabers now and know how well it does. But am I missing out on not having the added speed and accuracy, not to mention the other moves (aka Dervish, Adv. Saber Throw, Spin Attack, etc)?


Remember, I like being the tank in pve, but currently with M. Defender and 0404 sabers, I have to rely on others for damage dealing. Would I still be a tank with 0040 defender and master sabers?







MLS adds a very noticable increase to the dmg you can deal compared to just LS 0/4/0/4, but is
still sorely lacking when compared to normal prof "dmg dealers". This is especially true when one
considers the cost of a good 4th gen saber with good crystals/pearls (something I've still yet to attain).

As to your 2nd question, no, you would not still be a tank with just one branch of defender and MLS.
I've tried a large and varied assortment of jedi templates over the past 2 weeks and found that you
could possibly get by with just 2 branches of defender as long as you used aura 24/7 and had excellent
BE clothing with defensive mods, etc. Though imho, you would need a the very least 3 full branches or
more in defender to feel @ all like a successful tank.

That said, it's all in the eye of the beholder...we still have one more week of ReSpecs and I highly suggest
making the most of it by trying as many of the temps that interest you as you can before settling on just one.


Rev


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