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Thread: Is it worth it?

blaketheone
Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:43 am
#170

hell yea its worth is,without bh pistols 1-4 u want be speed capped or have as great accuracy.id drop master pistoler wit the accuracy line or sometin over bh pistols 1-4



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Spence-
Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:58 pm
#171

Thats not what I am talking about I am talking about just dropping the 4th box of BH pistols



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Feihu
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:32 pm
#172

Drop BH pistols 4 so you can pick up LLC to kill Jedi? I assume you mean pick up Investigation... and all you need to kill Jedi is Investigation 3, which you canfit into your templatewithout having to give up BH Pistols 4. I wouldn't give up Torso Shot unless I really had to...



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Cran
Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:55 pm
#173

The LLC tree is never woth anything... unless you need to kill lairs faster.



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TieWalker
Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:44 pm
#174

LLC vs jedi? that's like using a flamer! lol you'd hit much more with pistols! and the BH line has some of thhe best pistol speacials out there and has awesome mods



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Darth-Kevlar
Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:32 am
#175


The man is talking about dropping torso shot, not the rest of the bh pistol skills.


LLC isn't worth it actually.


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Vaelorn
Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:08 am
#176

Let me put it this way...


If you could only land a single shot on your target (i.e., super Jedi saber block), you would probably want it to be Torso Shot, because not only does that have a very good damage multiplier (I think it's x5.0), but it can also set them on fire to do [original_hit_damage/2] per tick, which is vastly superior to any bleed attack (especially pistol bleed attacks).


Unless you absolutely *must* get the LLC tree to become a Master Bounty Hunter, then you probably don't want to bother with it. For the most part, the only times that people *seriously* use an LLC in combat is to kill a lair with a big-damage gun (it's not that they want to use the LLC, it's that they *don't* want to waste condition and powerups on their other weapons), and to grind out the heavy weapons experience required to learn the LLC skill boxes (even then, many people would prefer to use a Launcher Pistol to get that heavy weapons experience). Judging by most player reports, it takes a pretty exceptional LLC to be worth using in any sort of important combat. When you also take into account the (in my opinion, nearly broken and completely dysfunctional) LLC specials that *require* you to be within a good 18m of your target, the LLC doesn't see much serious combat these days. Hopefully, there are some things coming down the pipeline that will improve the usefulness of heavy weapons...
Neogame
Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:54 am
#177

Hi ppl,


I currently run 3 charaters (Euro-Infinity, Euro-Chimeara and Sunrunner), i've been thinking of starting over on my Templetes on either Infinity(Human) or Chimeara (wookie) or deleting one on sunrunner and creating a new charactor for Shipwright? is it worth the trouble? but much does it time, money and recoursesdoes it take to work as a shipwirght. I tried it with DE about 6months ago but got bored when i hit 1324 on the DE tree.



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00over0
Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:24 am
#178

Shipwright is a lot of fun, but it's massive amounts of resources, time, and money.



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Rogue1970
Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:28 am
#179






00over0 wrote:

Shipwright is a lot of fun, but it's massive amounts of resources, time, and money.







Yes it is an incredibly time consuming profession, especially if you have good resources. I've had to stop advertising as my lines get to be 1-2 hours in length easily. People will wait, but you can't really log out easily if you want to maintain a reputation.


Resource cost is IMMENSE. I've gone through 60 million credits since launch easily, and I'm still spending 10mil a day easy snagging up every high stat resource I can find. Our server is about cleared out of anything decent now, and I've hired a team of surveyors and miners to cover future needs. Paying 5-20cpu for certain high statresources is very common. It's worth it in the end as you can get 20-50cpu out of parts and still be considered fair on pricing.


You also need 5-10million units of average quality resources for chasis just to Master and maintain your stock if you're busy. These will run you from 2-6cpu depending on if you're being gouged or not. If you need it though, you spend it. Chasis seem to be selling for 3-5cpu for the lower tiers and I'm getting 12-15cpu for Master level chasis without a complaint from anyone yet. I've sold hundreds of ships now and equipped abotu half of them myself (along with my MSW business partner)


IF you plan on doing this part time, I suggest you staff a starport rather than a have a shop. It's next to impossible to keep quality parts stocked hand crafting, especially with the demand right now. That will ease in a few weeks tho.


Then the money is going to be in Ship sonsumables like missiles. High Quality missiles go for 20cpu or more and are fairly easy to make - but even some of the Mark II stuff is going to take 400k+ units for a full run that could sell out in 2 days.


Don't be discouraged, I'm looking at it from the viewpoint of an extremely succesfull Shipwright with incredibly loyal customers at the moment. There is room in the market for all different types of Shipwrights, and there always will be as long as you adhere to strict quality standards.


The time involved if you want to be the best is insane. I was on for 23 hours yesterday and litterally logged off with shaking hands and sore fingers from clicking. It stilll took me over an hour to get to sleep I was so pumped though.


I've never had so much fun crafting, even though I hate the fact we can't use factories. I can ask a cutomer what his skills and ship are and give him a perfectly crafted set of parts for his ship, tweaked for the mass limitations and weapon loadout.


The stuff I am now crafting makes the Beta crafting look like those crappyfreebie ships.


It's worth it to me. I just wish I had time to fly a ship too.




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rifleman44
Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:22 pm
#180

im thinking of spending some extra skill points on swords 0400....will i be able to kill things quickly with a power hammer? im currently master tk and would like to get some extra xp before running back to the village seeing that combat xp caps at 300K and 900k of unarmed only give me about 100k of combat xp



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RandomPrecision
Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:17 am
#181

If you have the FS trees for Melee Speed and Melee Accuracy, you should fight well enough with a PH to kill quickly.



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EvilSockPuppet
Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:48 pm
#182






rifleman44 wrote:

im thinking of spending some extra skill points on swords 0400....will i be able to kill things quickly with a power hammer? im currently master tk and would like to get some extra xp before running back to the village seeing that combat xp caps at 300K and 900k of unarmed only give me about 100k of combat xp




I would get a scythe unless you have FS speed or at least master brawler. Also I would pick up the accuracy column and FS accuracy, and you will kill about as fast as a master swords without FS.

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