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BrotherDavius
Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:09 am
#183
This gose out to dingo and ackew if you where a shipwrite or if you are going to be one how much would you charge for an x-wing with no parts in it?
DingoBoi
Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:44 am
#184
BrotherDavius wrote:
This gose out to dingo and ackew if you where a shipwrite or if you are going to be one how much would you charge for an x-wing with no parts in it?
300k @ 5cpu minimum for an x-wing. Still waiting on finalizing prices based upon other eclipse shipwrights.. but that'smy bottem of the barrel price. I rather expect to charge more than that up to 7cpu which would be 420k
and I'm basing the range of 5-7 cpu off of beta discussions on pricing and that also happens to be mentioned in the sticky thread on beta guides regarding pricing.
Ackew
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:10 am
#185
BrotherDavius wrote:
This gose out to dingo and ackew if you where a shipwrite or if you are going to be one how much would you charge for an x-wing with no parts in it?
Well as it seems that JTL here in the UK will not be out until nov12. I will probley not bother with S/W now. But if i do i will be chargeing based on what could get for the resources if i put them on my vendor. I see absoulty NO POINT in makeing something that will sell for less that the stuff used in it.
Montya_Quatun
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:13 am
#186
You realize to turn a blueprint into a useable ship deed it costs the purchaser 100,000 cr right? That fact is why I will be using a PA Shipwright, not going to any external sources.
Message Edited by Montya_Quatun on 10-26-2004 12:15 PM
nefarious2
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:27 am
#187
Montya_Quatun wrote:
You realize to turn a blueprint into a useable ship deed it costs the purchaser 100,000 cr right? That fact is why I will be using a PA Shipwright, not going to any external sources.
Message Edited by Montya_Quatun on 10-26-2004 12:15 PM
Depends on the ship. MP ships cost 250k, unless they did change it in the last few days.
As far a Mining corps goes I ran one and we charged 3cpu no matter what the resource was. It could be OQ-3 or OQ-997 and it still would cost 3cpu. The prices get driven up by greedy miners who charge 8-10 cpu for stuff and in turn, they turn around and say why is everything so expensive.
I did the math, and for a swoop bike, to mine everything myself, including power, it would cost me just under 3k. Everyone says time to survey and shuttle tickets. Ok I'll add shuttle first. If you go from tatooine to naboo it will cost you 800c(not sure exactly I"m at work) that makes the swoop 3800. Most of the time I survey for 2 or 3 different resources at a time so that is debateable. Also I goto starter planets for other reasons so that factors into the costs of travel, but again after today shuttle factor shouldn't count as everyone can shuttle free.
DingoBoi
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:40 am
#188
you do realize that should have absolutely no bearing on what we sell the blueprints for.
Montya_Quatun wrote:
You realize to turn a blueprint into a useable ship deed it costs the purchaser 100,000 cr right? That fact is why I will be using a PA Shipwright, not going to any external sources.
Message Edited by Montya_Quatun on 10-26-2004 12:15 PM
Diorchas
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:43 am
#189
As a future shipwright it is in my best interest to protect the integrity of fair market value. But any customer that brings me the resources required gets a free ship. Why? Because the investment in time and/or money is theirs at that point, not mine. The only thing dependent upon me, then, is the click of a few buttons and perhaps a bit of experimentation. You want fair? THAT'S fair.
If you come to me asking for a ship and expect me to provide the materials and requisite time investment then you pay a fair fee based upon those two factors. If you come to me having already provided the requisite materials and having already paid the time investment then you remove the necessity for me to charge a fee.
But anyone, including other shipwrights, that propose selling finished products at a fiscal loss are harming the integrity of the market.
If you come to me asking for a ship and expect me to provide the materials and requisite time investment then you pay a fair fee based upon those two factors. If you come to me having already provided the requisite materials and having already paid the time investment then you remove the necessity for me to charge a fee.
But anyone, including other shipwrights, that propose selling finished products at a fiscal loss are harming the integrity of the market.
KorvakSkylighter
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:46 am
#190
I cant belive some people want to charge 1 mill for a chasis I mean for a freakin chassi which becomes useless after dying about 10-15 times.
A shipwright that charges 1 mill for a bwing chasis will i am sure charge about 1 or more mill for highlvl components too so for a bwign with weapons missles shield and armor you are looking around 2.5 mill.
One small question, except the guys that has more than 10 mill saved ( Which is I am sure less than 10 percent of all players, if you consider the newbies buying JTLS, and start the game with nothing but 1000 credits and a melon), will afford these kind of prices?
Well go ahead, what do I care, some of you will make some money at the beginnig and later it will come down to where it supposed to be.
BrotherDavius
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:49 am
#191
So how much would you charge for a top of the line x-wing with no parts in it?
DingoBoi wrote:
BrotherDavius wrote:
This gose out to dingo and ackew if you where a shipwrite or if you are going to be one how much would you charge for an x-wing with no parts in it?
300k @ 5cpu minimum for an x-wing. Still waiting on finalizing prices based upon other eclipse shipwrights.. but that'smy bottem of the barrel price. I rather expect to charge more than that up to 7cpu which would be 420k
and I'm basing the range of 5-7 cpu off of beta discussions on pricing and that also happens to be mentioned in the sticky thread on beta guides regarding pricing.
nefarious2
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:50 am
#192
Diorchas wrote:
But anyone, including other shipwrights, that propose selling finished products at a fiscal loss are harming the integrity of the market.
I'm sorry, but can you please explain this statement.
If I do my own mining, and all the costs for harvs and such equal <.5cpu, making it that I can sell them for a nice profit at 2cpu is harming the integrity of the market.
The way I see it. It is some of the weapon/armorsmiths who have had people offer them millions for their wares that have them pricing products as they do, and in turn pushing up the value of the resources.
In a fair market you would see resources sell for 1-1.5cpu with a 2cpu max and the final product would sell for 2.5-3cpu(plus what ever markup the maker wanted). My fired was a fairly sucessful WS and he had the lowest prices in one mall, and the other WS had to lower their prices to keep up. He was still making more money than he spent because we did all of the mining for ourselves.
BrotherDavius
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:56 am
#193
Also why would some one charge more if they mined the stuff they needed instead of buying it it is after all cheaper to mine than it is to buy.
DingoBoi
Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:18 am
#194
that orginal price was figuring medium grade resources with no part.. the chassis only. I doubt I'll be using quality resources to make chassis for the simple reason that the difference between grind and uber resources is so little. But if somebody wants to pay me 900K for the chassis @15cpu.. i'll use the better materials.
BrotherDavius wrote:
So how much would you charge for a top of the line x-wing with no parts in it?
DingoBoi wrote:
BrotherDavius wrote:
This gose out to dingo and ackew if you where a shipwrite or if you are going to be one how much would you charge for an x-wing with no parts in it?
300k @ 5cpu minimum for an x-wing. Still waiting on finalizing prices based upon other eclipse shipwrights.. but that'smy bottem of the barrel price. I rather expect to charge more than that up to 7cpu which would be 420k
and I'm basing the range of 5-7 cpu off of beta discussions on pricing and that also happens to be mentioned in the sticky thread on beta guides regarding pricing.
BrotherDavius
Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:19 am
#195
DingoBoi wrote:
that orginal price was figuring medium grade resources with no part.. the chassis only. I doubt I'll be using quality resources to make chassis for the simple reason that the difference between grind and uber resources is so little. But if somebody wants to pay me 900K for the chassis @15cpu.. i'll use the better materials.
BrotherDavius wrote:
So how much would you charge for a top of the line x-wing with no parts in it?
DingoBoi wrote:
BrotherDavius wrote:
This gose out to dingo and ackew if you where a shipwrite or if you are going to be one how much would you charge for an x-wing with no parts in it?
300k @ 5cpu minimum for an x-wing. Still waiting on finalizing prices based upon other eclipse shipwrights.. but that'smy bottem of the barrel price. I rather expect to charge more than that up to 7cpu which would be 420k
and I'm basing the range of 5-7 cpu off of beta discussions on pricing and that also happens to be mentioned in the sticky thread on beta guides regarding pricing.
Ok thanks, nice prices do you mine or buy your own stuff?