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airon
Wed May 11, 2005 6:00 pm
#157






Alristico wrote:





airon wrote:






Alristico wrote:





airon wrote:






Alristico wrote:

right on the game box it says, "game experience may change during online play"


now what?








that is waaay to broad a statement to cover what the eula is.. as the box dose not say by opening this box you agree to a eula .. only after installing adn opening the box and reading...






the discussion was not about the specifics of the eula. It was about the fact that the game can be changed and that you think you should have some sort of "right" to either prevent changes or change it only the way you like it lol.


don't try to change the argument.







nope my argument was ni liue to the Buggy enviroment and "forced" testing we haev been subject too not change.. change is fine thats what Test center is for not live...
The devs should be held accountabel for shoddy work . other than the thousands of cancelld accounts... i do not know who their boss is but he is forgiving.

Message Edited by airon on 05-11-2005 05:48 PM




no this is where the argument started,

"The eula is the most illegal bit of computer software. can you imagine if when you purchased a car the dealership siad ok you can leave with the mustang today but we reserve the right to come over repo it and replace it with a escort at our liesure and no cahnge in monthly fees.. well tahts what the eula dose.."


Theres nothing about test center in there. Now stop trying to get away from your original flawed statement.You want to be able to change the game the way you want. You are just a big complainer.








nope i have not stated what the game should be only taht it should "perform" up to par with what i pay for..../whipcrack


and if youread back in some of my posts on the CU i support it /wink


Alristico
Wed May 11, 2005 6:10 pm
#158







airon wrote:

nope i have not stated what the game should be only taht it should "perform" up to par with what i pay for..../whipcrack






so you want it to change the way you like. Cause it may change the way most people like it but thats not what you want. You want the "right" to change it the way you like it.



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airon
Wed May 11, 2005 6:19 pm
#159






Alristico wrote:







airon wrote:

nope i have not stated what the game should be only taht it should "perform" up to par with what i pay for..../whipcrack






so you want it to change the way you like. Cause it may change the way most people like it but thats not what you want. You want the "right" to change it the way you like it.




I have never said anything about how i want it to change or what I want for the game... where are u getting that?

Alristico
Wed May 11, 2005 6:23 pm
#160






airon wrote:





Alristico wrote:







airon wrote:

nope i have not stated what the game should be only taht it should "perform" up to par with what i pay for..../whipcrack






so you want it to change the way you like. Cause it may change the way most people like it but thats not what you want. You want the "right" to change it the way you like it.




I have never said anything about how i want it to change or what I want for the game... where are u getting that?





here





Xeries wrote:

If we the PLAYEr had rights then we would not have to put up with this piss poor customer service.. and piss poor coding period.







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airon
Wed May 11, 2005 6:34 pm
#161






Alristico wrote:





airon wrote:





Alristico wrote:







airon wrote:

nope i have not stated what the game should be only taht it should "perform" up to par with what i pay for..../whipcrack






so you want it to change the way you like. Cause it may change the way most people like it but thats not what you want. You want the "right" to change it the way you like it.




I have never said anything about how i want it to change or what I want for the game... where are u getting that?





here





Xeries wrote:

If we the PLAYEr had rights then we would not have to put up with this piss poor customer service.. and piss poor coding period.









? again where in there is an idea? a thought of what i want the game to be.. im just stating facts...
Alristico
Wed May 11, 2005 6:39 pm
#162






airon wrote:





Alristico wrote:





airon wrote:





Alristico wrote:







airon wrote:

nope i have not stated what the game should be only taht it should "perform" up to par with what i pay for..../whipcrack






so you want it to change the way you like. Cause it may change the way most people like it but thats not what you want. You want the "right" to change it the way you like it.




I have never said anything about how i want it to change or what I want for the game... where are u getting that?





here





Xeries wrote:

If we the PLAYEr had rights then we would not have to put up with this piss poor customer service.. and piss poor coding period.









? again where in there is an idea? a thought of what i want the game to be.. im just stating facts...






I never said any "ideas" or "thoughts" about how you want the game changed.


So "piss poor coding" is a fact? lol (plz don't resort to the easy and immature answer).





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airon
Wed May 11, 2005 6:44 pm
#163






Alristico wrote:





airon wrote:





Alristico wrote:





airon wrote:





Alristico wrote:







airon wrote:

nope i have not stated what the game should be only taht it should "perform" up to par with what i pay for..../whipcrack






so you want it to change the way you like. Cause it may change the way most people like it but thats not what you want. You want the "right" to change it the way you like it.




I have never said anything about how i want it to change or what I want for the game... where are u getting that?





here





Xeries wrote:

If we the PLAYEr had rights then we would not have to put up with this piss poor customer service.. and piss poor coding period.









? again where in there is an idea? a thought of what i want the game to be.. im just stating facts...






I never said any "ideas" or "thoughts" about how you want the game changed.


So "piss poor coding" is a fact? lol (plz don't resort to the easy and immature answer).








what do you call broken abilities (roots not breakin on damage)?


Players on top of the maps for planet sin space and stuck?


players stuck in Force run 2?


Broken quests of which there are many?


shall i continue..



im sorry its not Piss poor its from the theasaurus for the word inferior average, bad, base, cheesy, common, crap, crappy, déclassé, fair, good-for-nothing, hack, imperfect, indifferent, junk, lemon, lousy, low rent, low-grade, mean, mediocre, middling, ordinary, paltry, poorer, punk, sad, second-class, second-rate, shoddy, sleazy, sorry, substandard, tawdry, two bit, worse, wretched


CODING and implemintation.... not bashing the CU jsut the way its being thrown at us...



airon
Wed May 11, 2005 6:45 pm
#164

and that in turn is why in the end the original poster is haveing a hard time finding people to PVP there are none they have flushed SWG like the crap it has become....
Alristico
Wed May 11, 2005 6:49 pm
#165







airon wrote:

what do you call broken abilities (roots not breakin on damage)?


Players on top of the maps for planet sin space and stuck?


players stuck in Force run 2?


Broken quests of which there are many?


shall i continue..





oh so now you specify lol too late.





airon wrote:

im sorry its not Piss poor its from the theasaurus for the word inferior average, bad, base, cheesy, common, crap, crappy, déclassé, fair, good-for-nothing, hack, imperfect, indifferent, junk, lemon, lousy, low rent, low-grade, mean, mediocre, middling, ordinary, paltry, poorer, punk, sad, second-class, second-rate, shoddy, sleazy, sorry, substandard, tawdry, two bit, worse, wretched


CODING and implemintation.... not bashing the CU jsut the way its being thrown at us...






ya ya.... BUGS are bad coding, its too late for specification. You already made your general statement


so why again, do you want player "rights"?





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Alristico
Wed May 11, 2005 6:52 pm
#166






airon wrote:
and that in turn is why in the end the original poster is haveing a hard time finding people to PVP there are none they have flushed SWG like the crap it has become....




if you think giving your opinion is valid then let me give mine. The pvper's who hate the CU are the ones with imbalanced weapons and armor and skills.


do you see where opinions take this? no more opinions.





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airon
Wed May 11, 2005 6:56 pm
#167


hmm good question and the answer is not simple ( we are having this debate on another forum right now.) Basicaly here is how it works...

SOE is about to legaly put a value on all of our ingame items and accounts.. right?

so if I the end user now can sell something I own then I should be able to insure it ? correct?

So if SOE comes in and beacasue of thier own mistake depreciates the value )on the items of stuff that is now MINE) is there a way i can protect my investment aka 8 months of JEDI grind and Loot hunting?
airon
Wed May 11, 2005 7:01 pm
#168






Alristico wrote:






airon wrote:
and that in turn is why in the end the original poster is haveing a hard time finding people to PVP there are none they have flushed SWG like the crap it has become....




if you think giving your opinion is valid then let me give mine. The pvper's who hate the CU are the ones with imbalanced weapons and armor and skills.


do you see where opinions take this? no more opinions.








while this is true in one respec its a faulty train of thought as everyone was entitled to the same weapons and armor as anyone else nobodies account was flagged for exploitation.. you could argue that exploiters have a unique skillset..


but yes alot of the people who left did so because they were no longer uber.. inhertly this is not their fault they had simply grown accustmed to the enviroment SOE had provided for them.. aka is it the parents fault when a 16 year old kills someone in a car wreck ... and dont say well 18 and up are on there own you dont have to be 18 to play this game just need parent consent../wink so peoplpe running around with uber dot'd weapons for montsh was SOE's consent to allow that.


Alristico
Wed May 11, 2005 7:08 pm
#169






airon wrote:






Alristico wrote:






airon wrote:
and that in turn is why in the end the original poster is haveing a hard time finding people to PVP there are none they have flushed SWG like the crap it has become....




if you think giving your opinion is valid then let me give mine. The pvper's who hate the CU are the ones with imbalanced weapons and armor and skills.


do you see where opinions take this? no more opinions.








while this is true in one respec its a faulty train of thought as everyone was entitled to the same weapons and armor as anyone else nobodies account was flagged for exploitation.. you could argue that exploiters have a unique skillset..




i said nothing about exploitation. Players had looted 4k dmg t21's. Anyway, my point was that its pointless to argue opinion.




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