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Thread: Petition: Take the master pilot mission OUT of Kessel :p
Bailicus
Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:59 pm
#157
I say leave it as it is.
Anyone seeking pvp will be in Deep Space. Not Kessen.
I've said this before. No master pilot will want to waste his time pvp'ing in kessen. Theres next to nothing in there apart from the odd spawns here and there, which bands of 4444 pilots will be chasing after ........ no fun.
PVP will be happening in Deep Space. Funnily enough where all the best loot is and all the best content in the game resides IMHO.
Don't see why people think that just because an area is PVP enabled does not mean that you will have to fight anyone. THERES NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO BE IN THERE APART FROM DOING THE FINAL MISSIONS. Your just as likely to be killed by x amount of npc's there than another player, by the reads of things your all scared witless to go there. So how can any griefing occur if no-one ever goes there? *Tongue in cheek*
Can't see anyone being bothered waiting for the odd one or two gutsy people jumping into Kessen in the search for PvP.
Looking forward to Mastering pilot soon as. Having to go to Big Scary PVP enabled Kessen is not going to lose me any sleep. And I know that it is going to be the highlight of the week once I have that title. =)
Chill, take a deep breath, count to ten and relax
R'ob Bail'ie
Farstar
IB Inbreed
Wyrrwomble
Infinity
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Anyone seeking pvp will be in Deep Space. Not Kessen.
I've said this before. No master pilot will want to waste his time pvp'ing in kessen. Theres next to nothing in there apart from the odd spawns here and there, which bands of 4444 pilots will be chasing after ........ no fun.
PVP will be happening in Deep Space. Funnily enough where all the best loot is and all the best content in the game resides IMHO.
Don't see why people think that just because an area is PVP enabled does not mean that you will have to fight anyone. THERES NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO BE IN THERE APART FROM DOING THE FINAL MISSIONS. Your just as likely to be killed by x amount of npc's there than another player, by the reads of things your all scared witless to go there. So how can any griefing occur if no-one ever goes there? *Tongue in cheek*
Can't see anyone being bothered waiting for the odd one or two gutsy people jumping into Kessen in the search for PvP.
Looking forward to Mastering pilot soon as. Having to go to Big Scary PVP enabled Kessen is not going to lose me any sleep. And I know that it is going to be the highlight of the week once I have that title. =)
Chill, take a deep breath, count to ten and relax
R'ob Bail'ie
Farstar
IB Inbreed
Wyrrwomble
Infinity
IB Inbreed.
IrovMistwalker
Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:02 pm
#158
I completely agree. Someone at SOE had a real brainfart letting griefers ruin the game for many.
Jaster_M
Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:28 pm
#159
/sign
I dont understand why were being FORCED to PvP to get the master block? I also dont understand why you can attack a group member who the mission your doing for master is factionally alligned with? You go up there with 15 people and are lucky enough to hyper out before you get shot by someone outside your group or inside it. Its really a loss of logic in my opinion to keep privateers from becoming master because they dont want to choose sides.
I dont understand why were being FORCED to PvP to get the master block? I also dont understand why you can attack a group member who the mission your doing for master is factionally alligned with? You go up there with 15 people and are lucky enough to hyper out before you get shot by someone outside your group or inside it. Its really a loss of logic in my opinion to keep privateers from becoming master because they dont want to choose sides.
Ventuviper
Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:06 pm
#160
/sign
You can still force the mission to take out a corvette, but not in PvP space and give the players some time to actually kill the damn thing...2 hour spawn times with only 30mins to kill is stretching it. It takes time to take out the fighters and gunboats.
Tremk_Stryder
Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:06 pm
#161
1. my game caz i bought it...alongside the other 100's of ppl...u whine, i counter-whine(if it makes any sense)
2. ur crying about doing a hard mission....i never said they shouldnt nerf the 1 hit wonders in pvp...and on my server i havent seen anyone grief..not yet...guess we have less lame a$$ people or they havent gone there yet
3. im sorry..you have 100 on the forums out of how many servers with how many thousands of people?
4. if u hate pvp...dont go to kessel or deep space...easy mmkay? hence "ace pilot"... if u have 20 ships with u...i wouldnt worry about getting griefed...if u dont..make friends..its a mmo
5. if ur gonna enjoy the master box...go and try your best to get it...no one will stop you from trying except you.(griefers included)...its about how well you're prepared.
6. i wish i had that much time...im barely at 4333 and i hate grinding those friggin 4 mill xp for the lvl 4 boxes...same thing OVER and OVER and...just pointless...gimme pvp missions or something..or pve..i dont like grinding..
just my opinion...
if you're not good enough..dont do it...if you DO have griefers shooting you on load...report them to CSRs a zillion times...they'll get banned assuming they dont stop...
OR how about this?
whoever masteres pilot cannot go back there for the next 7 days? thatll give ample oportunities for everyone lesser to go master and everyon live happily everafter.
Space-Ace-Wannabe
Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:30 pm
#162
I really dont get it....
I was just in (5th time around) to do the corvette. I had a large group with me, and we had taken down all escorts, both gunboats, and had only the bridge left to destroy on the vette. This, is when a few people decide to jump in,and take potshots at the group. They only killed 5 of us before they were killed, but two of us who died would have had the mission if those hadnt done it. Now. Its impossible they couldnt see how close we were to completion. The vette wasnt firing, we were circling around it, heading for the bridge. im talking 10 seconds, and it would have been done. On al 5 occasions, the mission has been busted by pvp players. I actually spoke to the ones doing it after i spawned, asking them why they had done it. The answer?
"Cause we could"
I dislike pvp. Ive never participated willingly in pvp, in this game, or any other. I was actually thinking of joining the pvp in JTL however, because i love space sims. After this however, im going to make sure of one thing. The only time ill go into pvp, will be in deep space, where everyone can go of THEIR OWN FREE WILL.
Thats what it boils down to.
Kessel is FORCED pvp. Why? Cause the master pilot box is there.
"But you dont have to go master if you cant handle it."
True enough, yet how else am i going to get access to a multiplayer ship? How else am i going to get to fly the Firespray?
I cant. I have that option taken from me, by people who like to pvp, without regard to other people. This means im going to continue trying, over and over, until i succeed.
And you know what I am going to do after?
Im never going to enter kessel again. I am however, going to go into deep space, to fight til my fingers bleed. Simply because i know that everyone there has a choice.
Kessel is forced pvp.
I dont get it really. But i guess there are people who simply like to put their will and fun above everyone else, in some desperate effort to be seen, to be felt.
Congratulations to all of you. SOE has made it possible, and you werent late to take advantage of it.
my 5 cents.
REFREN
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:11 pm
#163
IrovMistwalker wrote:
I completely agree. Someone at SOE had a real brainfart letting griefers ruin the game for many.
That SOMEONE should be FIRED for bringing up "the dumbest idea ever" so that SWG will have morecontent. Be more creative and resourceful.
Let's hope griefing doesn't happen towhoever promoted the idea of putting a mission inside a PvP ( Griefing ) sectorin real life. You know this would happen...you know griefing will be rampant...why did you even allow this to go live?
SpaceCrazy
Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:17 pm
#164
Bailicus wrote:
I say leave it as it is.
Anyone seeking pvp will be in Deep Space. Not Kessen.
I've said this before. No master pilot will want to waste his time pvp'ing in kessen. Theres next to nothing in there apart from the odd spawns here and there, which bands of 4444 pilots will be chasing after ........ no fun.
PVP will be happening in Deep Space. Funnily enough where all the best loot is and all the best content in the game resides IMHO.
Don't see why people think that just because an area is PVP enabled does not mean that you will have to fight anyone. THERES NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO BE IN THERE APART FROM DOING THE FINAL MISSIONS. Your just as likely to be killed by x amount of npc's there than another player, by the reads of things your all scared witless to go there. So how can any griefing occur if no-one ever goes there? *Tongue in cheek*
Can't see anyone being bothered waiting for the odd one or two gutsy people jumping into Kessen in the search for PvP.
Looking forward to Mastering pilot soon as. Having to go to Big Scary PVP enabled Kessen is not going to lose me any sleep. And I know that it is going to be the highlight of the week once I have that title. =)
Chill, take a deep breath, count to ten and relax
R'ob Bail'ie
Farstar
IB Inbreed
Wyrrwomble
Infinity
IB Inbreed.
Apparently you haven't been reading many of the posts about this. It's already been happening. People in Kessel looking to PVP or just plain grief others. You ask why any master would go to Kessel and not Deep Space? Because Kessel is free. To get to Deep Space, you have to pay something like 30k Prestige Points, which are basically what you get for combat kills after you reach master. No more xp then, you get Prestige Points. Why would people spend hours grinding out the Prestige Points to get to PVP when they can just go to Kessel for free?
Sure, there will be people in Deep Space looking to PVP or for some of that loot you mentioned, but many will go to Kessel because it's free.
Tarjan33
Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:32 pm
#167
How about making kessel a zone you can enter only when u got the mission to attack the vette ?
That means all the players are the fore the same reason then give Each faction in the game a diffrent spawn point and place the vette spawn in the middle
wich will lead to fighting between players going for ace not a lot of aces that trying to stop others becoming ace.
This will allso lead to pvp but without some of the greifing.
DarthGuido505
Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:45 pm
#169
/sign
I agree. Most definately these missions should be removed from a PVP area. I am one of the masses who does not like to be involved in PVP and don't feel I should be forced into it. A group of us ran the first Kessel mission tonight to help out a guild mate and every time we flew in there we got one-shotted by a lovely group of people who felt it was their duty to keep Kessel closed. Not cool, and not right.