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Cry4Dawn wrote:

Mission 1 on Tier 3 for the Storm Trooper Squadon takes about 90 mins to do and you have to do it in a group. I must say that really upsets me. No mission should take this long to do and the chance of failure is so high, that if you do fail you probably wont want to do it again. Now whats pissing me off even more is that simple fact that I am finally 3-2-2-2 and got my cool Tie Interceptor, and I am dieing more now and faster now then I was when I had my Crappy Tie/In with the same parts.. W-T-F is going on with this game???? I use to be able to rip up B-wings in my old ship, now I am luck if I can beat one..

Lets put it out to be heard here people.. I REALLY hate missions where I have to group in order to advance my skills. I have NEVER done any of the major missions like the Corvette, or DWB because of how insanely hard it is. I dont find facing odds that one person cant beat FUN!!!!! I really cant stand it.

This game makes no sense.. When your Tier 1 you make no money and its hard to survive.. Once you get 2-2-1-1 you start to say HEY I can finally beat a few things. But by the time your 2-2-2-2 and you start tier 3 missions you are more weak then you were at 0-0-0-0.....

I am just not digging this whole group thing just to advance my levels. I am really not digging how you have to do missions in order to train.

There is nothing fun about spending 500K on a Tie Interceptor or whatever the price is to have it trashed 1 hr later and buy another one because you cant survive a single mission. Screw the combat Revamp, how about fixing JTL so its playable.......

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Cry4Dawn wrote:

Mission 1 on Tier 3 for the Storm Trooper Squadon takes about 90 mins to do and you have to do it in a group. I must say that really upsets me. No mission should take this long to do and the chance of failure is so high, that if you do fail you probably wont want to do it again. Now whats pissing me off even more is that simple fact that I am finally 3-2-2-2 and got my cool Tie Interceptor, and I am dieing more now and faster now then I was when I had my Crappy Tie/In with the same parts.. W-T-F is going on with this game???? I use to be able to rip up B-wings in my old ship, now I am luck if I can beat one..

Lets put it out to be heard here people.. I REALLY hate missions where I have to group in order to advance my skills. I have NEVER done any of the major missions like the Corvette, or DWB because of how insanely hard it is. I dont find facing odds that one person cant beat FUN!!!!! I really cant stand it.

This game makes no sense.. When your Tier 1 you make no money and its hard to survive.. Once you get 2-2-1-1 you start to say HEY I can finally beat a few things. But by the time your 2-2-2-2 and you start tier 3 missions you are more weak then you were at 0-0-0-0.....

I am just not digging this whole group thing just to advance my levels. I am really not digging how you have to do missions in order to train.

There is nothing fun about spending 500K on a Tie Interceptor or whatever the price is to have it trashed 1 hr later and buy another one because you cant survive a single mission. Screw the combat Revamp, how about fixing JTL so its playable.......

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Cobra2468 wrote:

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Cry4Dawn wrote:

Mission 1 on Tier 3 for the Storm Trooper Squadon takes about 90 mins to do and you have to do it in a group. I must say that really upsets me. No mission should take this long to do and the chance of failure is so high, that if you do fail you probably wont want to do it again. Now whats pissing me off even more is that simple fact that I am finally 3-2-2-2 and got my cool Tie Interceptor, and I am dieing more now and faster now then I was when I had my Crappy Tie/In with the same parts.. W-T-F is going on with this game???? I use to be able to rip up B-wings in my old ship, now I am luck if I can beat one..

Lets put it out to be heard here people.. I REALLY hate missions where I have to group in order to advance my skills. I have NEVER done any of the major missions like the Corvette, or DWB because of how insanely hard it is. I dont find facing odds that one person cant beat FUN!!!!! I really cant stand it.

This game makes no sense.. When your Tier 1 you make no money and its hard to survive.. Once you get 2-2-1-1 you start to say HEY I can finally beat a few things. But by the time your 2-2-2-2 and you start tier 3 missions you are more weak then you were at 0-0-0-0.....

I am just not digging this whole group thing just to advance my levels. I am really not digging how you have to do missions in order to train.

There is nothing fun about spending 500K on a Tie Interceptor or whatever the price is to have it trashed 1 hr later and buy another one because you cant survive a single mission. Screw the combat Revamp, how about fixing JTL so its playable.......

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you dont have to group to do your missions, i managed to do all of mine solo. try getting better components, i use a TIE Interceptor even tho im 4/4/3/4 because with the parts i have in it it could beat the hell out of any tie advanced/agressor, you simply cant beat its manueverability. also you might want to try getting your hands on some droid programs like reactor overload 4, engine overload 3 (4 is bugged), and weapons overload 4, some shield programs might come in handy too but i havnt tried them yet. i just dont see why so many ppl are having problems with tier 3... i cant be THAT much better at twtich games

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Minic wrote:

i'm not even gonna bother reading any other posts... just wanna give my support to the original poster.

storm squad tier 3 is much harder than any other tier 3 regardless of faction simply because it makes u do the entire thing in ONE go... NONSTOP! That is, the Tier 3 mission is a series that first starts with an escort that immediately goes onto a rescue, then an interception, then another rescue, and then a delivery... if you haul ass, as the original poster goes, you can do it in 90 if you have a good enough group... and interestingly, each mission logs as a separate one... but if you fail one later on in the series, you have to do them ALL OVER AGAIN.

that's it. Theres no need to argue further because unless you have a group of5 people who's atleast decent in flightsims using the best available for a 2/2/2/2 your SCREWED! (and u'll need 10+ if your talkin about your average flight sim player).

and not to mention, the TIE/In (the tier 2 TIE fighter) only differes from the Tier 1 TIE by 5k mass (i think... too late to think correctly)which, if you wanna upgrade to lvl 5/6 cert, the mass difference only accounts for 2 or 3 "new" updated pieces (as higher cert stuff has insanely high mass numbers).

Then theres the TIE Interceptor Tier 3... man it's supposed to be GOOD! on the lvl of the A wing. but at the way it stands, theres no point in even trying with it as its just crap...

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You can do the tier three missions with just two people (although 5 makes it ridiculously easy, 3 about perfect), did the missions 3 times last night , mine, (the second mission) and two of my buddies ( the first mission with the Nova at the end), were they excessively long? yep but it was completely doable.

As far as the TIE'S go, yeah I think there under mass as opposed to the other factions ships of the same level, but he key to working with them is just think smart when loading compo nets. Go with a high armor, high shield set up, sacrifice that missile\computer if you have too. Go with a lighter, slower engine if you have too, while going with the hardest hitting guns you can fit, I'm using a level 7 "hoershel-kessel Scorcher" the thing weights 20000 mass,thats half the mass of my TIE\ln,but it hits 2865 for max damage...thats 5 good hits on a tier 3, but I had to sacrifice my missles, some front armor, and a lighter/slower engine.... Also the Imps best friend at lower levels is the Emergency weapons trick, I don't how much it multiplies you damage, but me and my two buddies took down that Nova in about 10 solid hits......It was dead before it completed its first pass.....

The whole point is that before you admit defeat or just plain whine about it try different Tactics......If your on Ahazi I'll gladly help you out.....

In game name Ebrasu......

/sign

Yea I failed witchblood clan mission 3 times last night. I felt fustrated, but that shouldn't be cause for them to nerf the mission. I just need to A. Wait for the day a group forms. B. Keep farming. C. Grind more SW and farm even more while waiting on harvesters.

JTL is not a grind to me- being more of an arcade game, more what I like- more thrilling. (I grew up on Galaga) The Exp, loots, and skills are just like a bonus to my arcade game, they enhance my arcade game instead of vice versa. The only thing is casual gamers won't be first to be so and so on Joe Blow server, but you have to be HARDCORE for to be the first Master.

You can still make C though just not as much as them. If your truly a casual gamer though things like being first and Master status shouldn't concern you much. If some hardcore guildie is pressuring you to powergame and it aint your style, they suck cause they only out to use you and your template somehow soon.

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S7E4L7H wrote:

JTLS is Boring

i'm a failure and a

Pathetic space sim pilot

I will keep posting because it is my passion to read all the responses I get

I really like the ones from master pilots

Seriously if your a master pilot plz respond with yoru crap I want to read what somebody who actually played this through has to say to somebody who knew better

Why are you a master pilot ummmm you chased how many ships in circles for how long to achieve this worhtless title

Ok yoru the best of a crapy game congrats !

I wasted 29 bucks on this crap I am bitter, but mostly because JTLS was suposed to make the game more fun what a letdown!

Iwant to hear about all the other people who also wasted there money I hope many of you are like me and ready to goWoW or maybe a better video game like ummm packman or asteroids or PONG!

Yes Pong is better than JTLS!

there ya go devs you deserve this revue

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i just tried Tier 3 mission 2, Vortex. You have to inspect a pirate. But the pirate doesn't spawn! Fix this!!! I spent over an hour killing the spawn waiting for the correct spawn to come...FIX!

I will not go up to space again until this is fixed, it really pisses me off

I'm going to have to jump on this bandwagon as well.

I was enjoying JTL....until I got to the Tier 3 missions. The Tie Interceptor is obviously too weak as well, with its massive downfalls in 1 projectile, 1 missle. Its really a shame, but these missions were obviously not meant to be done solo in the Interceptor.

So I'm faced with 2 options - take my limited play time of 2 to 3 hours at best in a day to try to convince some people to group with me for these marathon missions (how I'm going to arrange this in my limited play time is beyond me), or try to force my way through these missions with a Tie Bomber.

However, both these options look rather bleak to me. JTL went from fun, to a chore....so I might just give up and hit the ole cancel button finally. *sighs* I was looking so forward to this too.....

I'll have to think about it before I just finally quit SWG, but the ONE thing that has kept me going in SWG since beta is that its one of the FEW MMORPGs out there where I could take my very limited play time and actually accomplish something solo with my character. With JTL I assumed the tradition would continue, but my world came crashing down around me tonight. Now SOE seems to think that advancing your character MUST be done with a group - an unprecedented decision by them until now.

Well, people like me with lives outside of SWG and limited play time who have a hard time finding the time to get a group organized aren't invited to JTL, I guess.

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Cry4Dawn wrote:

Mission 1 on Tier 3 for the Storm Trooper Squadon takes about 90 mins to do and you have to do it in a group. I must say that really upsets me. No mission should take this long to do and the chance of failure is so high, that if you do fail you probably wont want to do it again. Now whats pissing me off even more is that simple fact that I am finally 3-2-2-2 and got my cool Tie Interceptor, and I am dieing more now and faster now then I was when I had my Crappy Tie/In with the same parts.. W-T-F is going on with this game???? I use to be able to rip up B-wings in my old ship, now I am luck if I can beat one..

You're obviously doing something very, very wrong. I'm storm squdron as well, andsince I got my tie interceptor, I die a lot less.

Lets put it out to be heard here people.. I REALLY hate missions where I have to group in order to advance my skills. I have NEVER done any of the major missions like the Corvette, or DWB because of how insanely hard it is. I dont find facing odds that one person cant beat FUN!!!!! I really cant stand it.

Uh, if you don't want to join groups to access the really cool content, why are you playing an MMORPG?

This game makes no sense.. When your Tier 1 you make no money and its hard to survive.. Once you get 2-2-1-1 you start to say HEY I can finally beat a few things. But by the time your 2-2-2-2 and you start tier 3 missions you are more weak then you were at 0-0-0-0.....

Hmm. Raw recruits make no money? Imagine that.

I am just not digging this whole group thing just to advance my levels. I am really not digging how you have to do missions in order to train.

Then don't do them. Don't train. Stay where you are. The higher level stuff in JTLS is basically all group based, so it would be kind of meaningless for you to try to get there, since you hate grouping so much.

There is nothing fun about spending 500K on a Tie Interceptor or whatever the price is to have it trashed 1 hr later and buy another one because you cant survive a single mission. Screw the combat Revamp, how about fixing JTL so its playable.......

Why are you buying a while new tie interceptor? Why not just fix the one you have?

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