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Thread: Enemies warping, still in from Beta!!
RNerf
Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:09 am
#144
amd 2800+
nforce2 mobo
9800 pro graphics with cat 4.9 installed
onboard sound
1 gig ram 2700 ddr
win xp with sp1 (never installed 2)
issue happens randomly (peak time or 3 am, doesnt matter)
no packetloss that ive ever noticed, and my ping is almost always under 100
I have had this issue about 6 times now since launch. at first i thought it was a network issue on my side. my home "router" is actually just my bedroom pc, and the other 3 comps in the house (including this gameing rig) conect tto the internet thought that computer. so every time i have connection issues I will reboot both computers, power cycle the cable modem and go from there... the first 2 times that worked. the next it didnt so i did a full scan... that works the following 2 times. but then that didnt even work the fifth time so i went to bed early that night...
It happened again tonight and i rebooted both comps, same issue, then i did a full scan and it worked again... every time ive done this ive always quit the game, never used /logout (for what its worth)... im thinking that it may not have anything to do with any of my solutions and that its a netcode issue between the client and server and that it actually works itself out while i am reconnecting from (LD)... maybe after a certain amount of time has passed to let the sever know im (LD)... but before its actually logged me out...
Im no programmer, but i have a more than casual knowledge of computers and as random as this is (the problem itself and the apparant fixes) this is the only thing i can think of. when i was playing tonight i was with 2 guildmates and they had no idea what i was talking about... they hadnt even heard of the issue, much less experienced it themselves... that also tells me that its not a common occurence.
Then again it could also mean that since it is so rare(if it was happening to a significant portion of the playerbase, this thread would be 100 pages long by now) that there is a common thread between the folks that is experiencing this problem... ive read all the posts and we know its not software... we have differnt os's, drivers, service packs, the games been reinstalled, and even a hard drives been formated (poor guy)... if its a hardware incompatibility, its gotta be a small one that we arent seeing... i doubt everyone is using an nforce chipset...
I dunno, im at a loss, i figured i would post my thoughts though. Hopefully it will help the devs figure it out and fix it...
Message Edited by CSRNerf on 11-06-2004 04:10 AM
Warrior4Hire
Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:41 am
#146
Well, it looks like Full Scan works again, you just have to keep trying. This is getting intolerable, though, and I hope the Devs start taking notice..
spammy1984
Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:06 pm
#147
GuNNzy wrote:Ok heres the culprit... WINGMAN FORCE 3d joystick!
Unplug it and play with mouse and Im fine... with the joystick with or without forcefeedback and I rubberband like crazy! My friend had a different joystick and he was working great no warping, he got mad one night and broke that joystick then he went and bought a WINGMAN force 3d and WAMMO! warps like crazy... so he went and bought a different joystick and guess what... yup NO warping! Hope this helps SOE fix the issue... I really like the Force Feedback!
Pulled this from the Tech Support forum... Now others are saying that its not just this joystick (I don't have it either) but maybe it has something to do with USB devices... I'm gonna start messing around with what I have (my joystick is old and using the gameport).
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spammy1984
Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:57 pm
#148
Well that was no help... at least for me. I removed all usb devices still no luck.
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DerivitivKahn
Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:04 pm
#149
OK Ive been able to get rid of the bees, but only by disabling joystick control on the game launch settings, I dont understand how a controller (espicially a logitech one *best pads on the market*) can cause a bug like the drunken bees but I found a fix for those that are using control pads, I'm still quite pissed off that I cant use my cpntroller for this and I dont wanna buy a flight stick (which a logitech 3d flight pro seems to work fine on my buds puter) that I'm only gonna use for this game. Oh well hopefully they will fix it.
Omnipotent-One
Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:04 pm
#150
Yeah I also get the "drunken bees" ship warping crap where I can't shoot them till they warp back. Sometimes my engine seems to "restart" like it cuts out out just throttles up. It's annoying as hell.
Dragoslaf
Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:10 pm
#151
DerivitivKahn wrote:
OK Ive been able to get rid of the bees, but only by disabling joystick control on the game launch settings, I dont understand how a controller (espicially a logitech one *best pads on the market*) can cause a bug like the drunken bees but I found a fix for those that are using control pads, I'm still quite pissed off that I cant use my cpntroller for this and I dont wanna buy a flight stick (which a logitech 3d flight pro seems to work fine on my buds puter) that I'm only gonna use for this game. Oh well hopefully they will fix it.
I tried to completely unplug my Microsoft Precision II joystick. Doesen't work. I don't think this problem has anything to do with a game controller.
Well at least it worked for ya.
spammy1984
Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:05 pm
#152
Tried disabling the Joystick in the launchpad too... no luck with that either. Just jumpy ships with the added bonus of crappy controls. I don't think there is anything we can do to fix our problem. Its almost definitely a synchronization problem between us and the server and until they fix it we're screwed.
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Sarnokh
Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:48 pm
#153
Ok, I have JTL now for 12 days, and I was bugged 10 days, so I was only able to play in space 2 days. No more.
I wrote mails to SOE Tech Support.
I wrote to the Devs.
I wrote 3 tickets.
I wrote 4 Bug Reports.
I keep writing into this and 2 other threads with the same problem.
Result: Nada. No single Dev or SOE guy/girl even said "Hi, we noticed your problem."
I see that we are too few to be of any importance in their agenda. I have been polite and patient with all
bugs since I started playing 5 months ago, but my patience has grown thin now.
SOE Devs, you either say at least "we recognize we have to look into this", or you loose my account.
I have enough to pay and not play. Any answer will be ok, so I know you at least LOOK into this.
This is the least any customer can expect.
SpawnUSAF
Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:56 pm
#154
Hey, all, figured I'd join in the fun, heh..
Let's get started, I too am having this problem...I have finally finished reading EVERYTHING, boy this is long..heh..anyways, as to a few people mentioning that this may be an ATI or AMD problem, you are definitely mistaken, there have been several posts on here mentioning that the persons setup included an Intel CPU or an nVidia Video card...as for AMD's having a crappy math coprocessor and that's why their cheap, this is also untrue, the reason that they cost less than Intels aren't because they are cheap, it's because Intel's are too expensive...the price isn't the main reason why most people that posted here have an AMD CPU, it's because AMD CPU's are much better for gaming than Intel will ever be able to make the CPUs at if they keep on the same track they've been on for a couple decades, now...The problem, as far as I can tell is one of a few things...it's either a conflicting code in one of the most recent patches; a router conflict; server lag; or server malfunction...I can't think of anything else it could possibly be...a full scan doesn't work...what makes it appear that it's working is the fact that you are refreshing your connection with the server, so you might be getting a better connection with them which sways me towards the server lag problem...that's why logging completely off and back on works sometimes but not others...as far as the Boot.ini fix, that's a great fix for general performance issues with XP SP2, but as far as the game issue, doubtful, since I have had this setting at AlwaysOff since SP2 first came out...I really think the Devs need to step up, grow some balls, and admit to their mistake and fix it...these bugs are getting quite annoying...little bugs here and there that get patched within a day are fine with me as that's bound to happen, but something that occurred back in the beta and has yet to have been fixed is absolutely ridiculous...it's things like this that make more and more people quit the game every day...
here's my setup, btw 8P
Athlon XP-M 2600+ OC @2.5GHz
1GB GEIL PC3200 Golden Dragon RAM
ATI 9600 non-pro 256MB
Windows XP SP2 Optimized
DirectX9.0c
Let's get started, I too am having this problem...I have finally finished reading EVERYTHING, boy this is long..heh..anyways, as to a few people mentioning that this may be an ATI or AMD problem, you are definitely mistaken, there have been several posts on here mentioning that the persons setup included an Intel CPU or an nVidia Video card...as for AMD's having a crappy math coprocessor and that's why their cheap, this is also untrue, the reason that they cost less than Intels aren't because they are cheap, it's because Intel's are too expensive...the price isn't the main reason why most people that posted here have an AMD CPU, it's because AMD CPU's are much better for gaming than Intel will ever be able to make the CPUs at if they keep on the same track they've been on for a couple decades, now...The problem, as far as I can tell is one of a few things...it's either a conflicting code in one of the most recent patches; a router conflict; server lag; or server malfunction...I can't think of anything else it could possibly be...a full scan doesn't work...what makes it appear that it's working is the fact that you are refreshing your connection with the server, so you might be getting a better connection with them which sways me towards the server lag problem...that's why logging completely off and back on works sometimes but not others...as far as the Boot.ini fix, that's a great fix for general performance issues with XP SP2, but as far as the game issue, doubtful, since I have had this setting at AlwaysOff since SP2 first came out...I really think the Devs need to step up, grow some balls, and admit to their mistake and fix it...these bugs are getting quite annoying...little bugs here and there that get patched within a day are fine with me as that's bound to happen, but something that occurred back in the beta and has yet to have been fixed is absolutely ridiculous...it's things like this that make more and more people quit the game every day...
here's my setup, btw 8P
Athlon XP-M 2600+ OC @2.5GHz
1GB GEIL PC3200 Golden Dragon RAM
ATI 9600 non-pro 256MB
Windows XP SP2 Optimized
DirectX9.0c
Omnipotent-One
Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:23 pm
#155
This bug sucks and the game is pretty much unplayable. I'm about to scrap this game.
What a shame. Was having fun in beta till this crap started happening.
SpawnUSAF
Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:10 pm
#156
yep...I feel your pain, heh...but there's more to the game aside from the JTL stuff...I mean what did you do before JTL came out, just go do that until they fix it next year sometime, lol...