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DingoBoi

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:15 am

TXAG2006 wrote:

Nice guide 5 stars for you

It is a nicely written and explained guide.. i'll give you that since it's obvious you put time and effort into it even if we disagree vehemently.

That as it may.. i'm done with this thread... and i'm putting the last touches on my own shop /thanks for stopping bye jergo (it's wasn't done when you were there)

We will never agree on this Jergo, but you run your business more as a charity so the mindsets are different. You do sell below market value but that is your perogative.

In the end, best wishes to you. It's been a fun debate/flamefest

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Ackew

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:17 am

#145

The title of this thread should be an attempt to crash the ship market. The cpu price is NOT reasonable AT ALL. Its strange how he charges 1cpu for resources which require a LOT more work than makeing the ship. Yet he charges 120k for just clicking the mouse a few times.Of course he has avoided any and all questions on how much he will charge WHEN he has to BUY his resources and how much his components will be. to all others who think 1cpu is a fair price. I say this YOU go get 6.5million resources to master ship and then 50 million to keep stocks up and see how much it costs you. I'm damm sure you will NOT be chargeing 1cpu.

Message Edited by Ackew on 10-25-2004 05:18 PM

RIP SWG April 27th 2005

CarpetGunk

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:47 am

#146

I hear ya Dingo, I'vemore or less been done with the thread for a few days now... Now we just have to get Ackew to give it up. hehe

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Diorchas

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:19 am

#147

I find the idea that you'll sell ships for 1cpu but not resources disingenuous.

I'm not an alarmist, but if you'll sell ships that low and not the resources used to make them then it just about kills any claims you have of not trying to crash the shipbuilding market. You're trying to corner the market by underselling others. It really is that simple. If you sell ships made with resources that, under market conditions, would cost 5x as much as the finished product, then claiming to want to"make the prices reasonable", why wouldn't you share your resources at a modest markup so that other shipbuilders could lower THEIR prices?

You're actively going to undercut the market for ships and try to wrap yourself in some cloak of altruism. Well, some people are smart enough to see that the cloak is tattered.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter, because it's all just pixellated money anyway. But don't insult anyone's intelligence by claiming one minute that you're doing it for the community and in the next you're hammering everyone else's ability to recoup their investments and compete in the marketplace.

Message Edited by Diorchas on 10-25-2004 10:21 AM

DingoBoi

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:55 am

#148

hey hey, i'm not giving up... just going to be too busy to pay attention here... lots to do in the next couple days and even much more after.

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Tanks

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:06 am

#149

The big question is will you run out of resources before you run out of customers?

One cost you are not including is the opportunity cost. If a resource goes for 3 CPU and you are pricing yours at 1 CPU. What will happen after you run out of resources?

You say you have been gathering resources (4 star ones at that) since April or so. Will you be able to gather 4 star resources at the same pace as your sales?

Are you in the SW profession for the long haul, or just going to do it while resources last?

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nefarious2

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:17 am

#150

I'll be pricing at around 2cpu for my ships, unless I need to buy a resource that is really awesome. I have to see what happens for the components, not too sure on how many resources they take so I can't price it right now, but still leaning on the 2 cpu scale.

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CU2L8R

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:37 am

#151

Let me get this thread straight in my head. On the one hand some guy is saying he will sell bits of a spaceship for x.

On the other, a few blokes are getting stuck in because (s)he thinks that is too little.

Ok, so SWG is not real. It's a game. It doesn'treally exist. You can believe it does, although your psychiatrist is helping you with that

So...

One person charging less for something that doesn't exist is upsetting some other people who want to charge more for something that doesn't exist? Does it make sense? Not to me.

This is why i am neither uber or leet, but happy.

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hanshadow

Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:08 pm

#152

Did ANY of you guys take Marketing in college? This guy is doing exactly what he should to make a name as a Shipwright. He is looking to gain market share. It's not rocket science. He can build a name for himself, and offer nicer products for slightly more money in the future. It's a great plan, and he shouldn't have to justify it to anyone!

Will you guys quit the b!tching already?? If you have your heart set on making a fortune on Ships, go for it. Just don't expect people to collude on prices (that's actually illegal in the US

). Gouge away! Just don't expect as many sales.

Keep up the good work. I'll see if I can find a Marketing 101 powerpoint presentation for the rest of these whining fools.

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Ackew

Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:31 pm

#153

hanshadow wrote:

Did ANY of you guys take Marketing in college? This guy is doing exactly what he should to make a name as a Shipwright. He is looking to gain market share. It's not rocket science. He can build a name for himself, and offer nicer products for slightly more money in the future. It's a great plan, and he shouldn't have to justify it to anyone!

Will you guys quit the b!tching already?? If you have your heart set on making a fortune on Ships, go for it. Just don't expect people to collude on prices (that's actually illegal in the US ). Gouge away! Just don't expect as many sales.

Keep up the good work. I'll see if I can find a Marketing 101 powerpoint presentation for the rest of these whining fools.

But if he posts it here in the forum HE DOES have to justify it. Its not an attempt to gain market share as he has said many times he is NOT in it for the money. He simply wants to crash the ship market like all the under cutters did to the bike market. I'm not lookingto make a fortune I all ready have one

I just don't want people to expect to pay only 1cpu for resources that are worth anything form 5 to 20 times that amount that will be going into ships i make. I don't want to gouge people simply charge a fair price based on how much i could of got WITH NO effort by puting them on my resource vendor. I could easerly sell any of the resources I have stocked piled on my vendor in hours. So why would i want to waste the time and effort to make then into ships and then sell them at 5 to 20% OFthe price i could get for just the resources.

RIP SWG April 27th 2005

Takiwa

Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:16 pm

#154

Ackew wrote:

But if he posts it here in the forum HE DOES have to justify it. Its not an attempt to gain market share as he has said many times he is NOT in it for the money. He simply wants to crash the ship market like all the under cutters did to the bike market. I'm not lookingto make a fortune I all ready have one I just don't want people to expect to pay only 1cpu for resources that are worth anything form 5 to 20 times that amount that will be going into ships i make. I don't want to gouge people simply charge a fair price based on how much i could of got WITH NO effort by puting them on my resource vendor. I could easerly sell any of the resources I have stocked piled on my vendor in hours. So why would i want to waste the time and effort to make then into ships and then sell them at 5 to 20% OFthe price i could get for just the resources.

Ackew I am close to flaming you.

I will not But I am utilizing every bit of self control I have.

1. SWG craft has a calculator, I suggest you use it. To harvest resources/materials it is on average .50 CPU COST.
2. Just because you are hyper inflating your supplies on a vendor and selling them for 5-20 times 1 CPU doesnt mean you should jack up the price on your ship to allow you to still get your overpriced rate on the materials you use.
Since no one can figure out math I will assist you again Ackew and show each person reading this Forum that you are in FACT A GOUGER ON MATERIALS PRICES.

COST OF MATERIALS .25-.75 CPU
SALES OF MATERIALS 5-20 CPU.
THE ABOVE IS STRAIGHT FROM YOUR POST.

COST OF MATERIALS .25 SELL ITEMS FOR 5 CPU = PROFIT OF 1900%
COST OF MATERIALS .75 SELL ITEMS FOR 20 CPU = PROFIT OF 2566%

LETS PUT THIS IN REAL WORLD VALUES... iF A CHEESEBURGERS COSTS WENDY'S 30 CENTS TO MAKE AT YOUR PROFIT RATE YOU WOULD BE CHARGED $5.70. THATS 1900% PROFIT ON THE uber TINY CHEESEBURGER.

LETS PUT THIS IN REAL WORLD VALUES... iF A NICE BACON DOUBLE CHEESEBURGER COSTS WENDY'S $1.00TO MAKE AT YOUR PROFIT RATE YOU WOULD BE CHARGED $25.66. THATS 2566% PROFIT ON THE NICE BACON DOUBLE CHEESEBURGER .

iF i SAW PRICES LIKE THAT AT WENDYS I WOULD GO TO ANOTHER PLACE. IS THERE ANY QUESTION IN ANYONES MIND HOW THE MATH WORKS OUT?

IS THERE ANY QUESTION IN ANYONES MIND WHY THE ECONOMY IS MESSED UP IN THE SWG GROUND GAME?
IS THERE ANY QUESTION IN ANYONES MIND THAT ACKEW IS A PRICE GOUGER?

THATS ALL i HAVE TUNE IN NEXT TIME FOR LONG DIVISION.

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Nicarye

Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:17 pm

#155

RIP OFF!!!

Try 15k for the first tier ships, you all are ripping pple off and you all know it.
I hate it when pple like that try to turn a quick one over on everyone

5k of resources at 3cpu is 15k. its bad enought they have to pay the chassis broker for the actual chassis.

belder

Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:36 pm

#156

OMG THANK U SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much ive been going crazy trying to find the prices. Just to let people you will need certs to fly certin ships. all u can fly at the beging of you pilot tree is The scky for freelance pilot, headhunter for rebel and light tie for imp. so im sure im just gona buy a scky and upgrade it 2 hell. id suggest you guys do the same wit hyour faction of choice.

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