Jedi Archive

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Jacella wrote:

Sorry, but can you expound on this? I am not entirely sure what you mean.

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What I mean is, XP loss means nothing those who are already jerk (the ones yourself hate too, starport duelers etc. etc.) . XP loss only bothers who really tries to stay in low profile. Did you ever see a single show-off who are afraid of XP loss or Bounty Hunt?

There are hardly any bh huntin jedi anymore the most action i had in a long time is 2 in 1 day and I'm always on the terminals let the xp loss stay in not like it easy to grind out of a hole in a area group.

skill loss wont function when the frs comes out someone who could be havinga very bad day could pontentialy get kicked out of the frs and bh should lose something or get on the boards if they fail.

example i had a bh come after me a few days back the second of the two he realized after thirty seconds he didn't have a chance to beat me kept rooting me and running around buildings i destroyed one of his vehicles he pulled another out and got away.

imo i think bh should get some type of viz for failing if they stay and fight till the death maybe some minimal viz but if some bh aborts the mission or lets it decay in his data pad for 3 days should throw him on the terms immediately

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Jacella wrote:

Sorry, but can you expound on this? I am not entirely sure what you mean.

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What I mean is, XP loss means nothing those who are already jerk (the ones yourself hate too, starport duelers etc. etc.) . XP loss only bothers who really tries to stay in low profile. Did you ever see a single show-off who are afraid of XP loss or Bounty Hunt?

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I agree with you, but since there isn't anything that can be done about that, at least let the BH's do their jobs on the rest of the population. Besides, the jerks get bored quickly and quit.

I recently finished my template and I feel that xp loss needs to remain in the game. That said, I think negative xp needs to be removed and that once you hit zero you stay at zero. As a padawan I hated being 1 shot killed by players 20 levels above me. But as an occasional PvPer and a barely Pre-CU unlock I feel that the xp loss actually pushed me to grind up faster to get enough jedi skills to defend myself. Once I got those skills it was actually fun (sometimes inconveinent) for BH to find me but it did add an edge and a high level of excitement to the game.

Basically, keep the path to jedi with some risks. I have an MBH alt and although I have never hunted jedi I will because it provides a challenge and a change from the PVE content. Should BH have some risk...maybe. Maybe a financial risk such as paying the amount of the bounty upon losing to your mark would make BH think seriously before taking a jedi mark. But overall I feel the current system works rather well (with the exception of pearl/crystal drops). I have seen 2 BH teams mentioned in this thread as well....they still exist I have personally been the target of 2v1 BH missions twice in the last week.

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Jacella wrote:

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gera wrote:

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Jacella wrote:

Sorry, but can you expound on this? I am not entirely sure what you mean.

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What I mean is, XP loss means nothing those who are already jerk (the ones yourself hate too, starport duelers etc. etc.) . XP loss only bothers who really tries to stay in low profile. Did you ever see a single show-off who are afraid of XP loss or Bounty Hunt?

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I agree with you, but since there isn't anything that can be done about that, at least let the BH's do their jobs on the rest of the population. Besides, the jerks get bored quickly and quit.

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but then they sell their accounts or give their accounts to friends so the cycle never ends.

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Jacella wrote:

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silversaber wrote:

LOL ok....

Proof positive you DONT want any risk, and want "I win" insta-kill button, just because the Jedi built too much visibility.

Soo much for the "I PvP for the rush and the skill needed!"

Tell me, where is the skill in team-ganking another player? Huh? Wheres the RISK?

You tell me that you need to team up on a Jedi to be able to win, and I say your FULL of it. I know BH that can take ANY template Jedi down.

You dont want PvP with the risks and challenges involved, you want to punish other players forplaying a Jedi.

So much for playing for the Risk vs Reward, you dont want any risk, you want the reward handed to you on a silver platter. And that reward is punishing that other player for DAREING to play a Jedi in this game.

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I want jedi to have an obsticle to finish their templates. I want some jedi to quit because jedi is too hard. I want some jedi to not log in their jedi because they FEAR something. I want jedi to become a shadow if it's former glory and for the wussy wimps that whine endlessly about everything to just give up on their jedi and play one of these other professions that they say id better than jedi. I want the jedi population to decrease so that those of us that have worked darned hard to become good and strong players can regain some level of respect unstead of having every other profession think we are nothing but whiny babies who want an insti-i-win button.

That is the truth!

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Like I said, you hate players for playing a profession this game allows them to play.

You dont PvP for the challenge of it, you hunt Jedi to take your hatred and frustrations on them.

You are the classic griefer.

Its because of players like you that PvP participation in this game is so low, and that TEFs were removed from this game.

I thinkJedi should ge the money the bhwas going to get if they kill a Jedi, if the Jedi kills the BH. As it stands, the xp loss is the only reason for a Jedi to not fight a Bh and to just cloak and run. No one wants to lose 400k+ Xp for the sake of being honorable.

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Fugitron wrote:

There has been alot of comments latelyabout completely removing XP loss from the BH system. This thread is to discuss the "possibility" and PROs and CONs if this did occur. Pleasetry to keep flaming down and to stay on-topic. BHs are welcome to give constructive input.

Some following questions to consider when discussing:

JEDI:

- Do you beleive the BH system currently is effectively stopping the growth of jedi (as intended) ?

- If XP loss was removed would you feel as much "tension" when losing to a BH ?

- If this occured do you beleive the grind would now be "too easy", "just right", or still "too hard" ?

- Does XP loss now (or even when grinding) make you "show off" less ?

BOUNTY HUNTER:

- What is the main motivation for hunting player jedi (please be honest) ?

- Do you beleive its fair that jedi are the only profession in the game that loses something upon (BH) death ?

- If they took away jedi XP loss would you hunt as many jedi as you do now ?

- If XP loss remains do you beleive BHs should be punished for losses or consecutive losses ?

Remember PLEASE try to stay on task and try not to flame eachother - someone will disagree with you - agree to disagree. Maybe if we have enough good input we might be stickied (at least for a bit)

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silversaber wrote:

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Like I said, you hate players for playing a profession this game allows them to play.

You dont PvP for the challenge of it, you hunt Jedi to take your hatred and frustrations on them.

You are the classic griefer.

Its because of players like you that PvP participation in this game is so low, and that TEFs were removed from this game.

You are the reason PvP is solimited and is becomeing more limited as time goes on.

I hope you feel proud.

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Remove XP loss alltogether, not needed now as it was implemented to stop credit farming.
Credit farming has stopped due to names being removed from the terminals

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S0ldad0 wrote:
Remove XP loss alltogether, not needed now as it was implemented to stop credit farming.
Credit farming has stopped due to names being removed from the terminals

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/agree

jedi is not the uber class is was, so the penalties should be removed to match the power.

Some good discussion and answers coming in, keep it up.

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BladeOConner wrote:
i Beleive xp loss should be there but instead of going negative loose till 0 then maybe have to loose skills no negative at all you choose your loss of skill

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i like everyhting except loss of skill!! lol

If you have a bad string of luck u'd end up just having /saberHit !!

I like the no negative xp tho!!