Jedi Archive
Thread: Fixing the FRS
JediMobius
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:50 am
#105
If they adopt the Master/Padawan roles it would be nice if a BH got a Mission on the paddy to have to go through the Master as well if he was there too. I dont think any Master would just sit by and watch his Paddy die to a BH. Its also a way for the Light side to possibly get rank for sucssfully defending his paddy from a BH attack....or FRS xp from helping defend a base or something...Light Jedi are defenders not murders.
zabrakyoda-wan
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:33 am
#106
dont just suggest this stuff to the devs... DEMAND IT!!!
Blindmann
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:29 pm
#107
Imspaced wrote:
Light Jedi should be allowed in Dark Jedi Enclaves and vice versa, we need somewhere to do battles one on one
no the enclave should be a safe haven... Only real place to do a 1 v 1 is on the roof of a private house.....
HitorikiBattousai
Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:15 pm
#108
Great stuff, I hope this gets put in soon, I'd really like to see appren & master Jedi roaming around to give it a more RPG feel.. after all, like Goku said... it is an MMORPG... and we are severly lacking it.
Osgiliath_
Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:45 pm
#109
- Jedi should not generate Visibility from each other.
Thank god!
Merc-utio
Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:04 pm
#110
Awesome post Gokui. If the FRS idea goes through i'd like to see perma overt status revoked. Also i think we need to shorten the delay between force powers but meh cant have everything. 
4ceSensitive
Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:31 am
#111
I'm trying not to go off on one of my rants, but of the same school of thought as kyle, the 1 year anniversary of my ticket approaches...
SonGouki wrote:
RANK FRS XP INC MAINT XP CAP
0 0 0 0 800 caps at 15,000
1 10,000 +10k 100 1,200 caps at 25,000
2 20,000 +10k 200 1,500 caps at 35,000
3 30,000 +10k 300 ? caps at 50,000
4 40,000 +10k 400 ? ...
5 60,000 +20k 500 ? ie caps are halfway towards the rank after the one you are about to train
6 80,000 +20k 600 ?
7 100,000 +20k 700 ?
8 150,000 +50k 800 ?
9 200,000 +50k 900 ?
10 300,000 +100k 1,000 ?
11 500,000 +200k 1,100 ?
CSR quote, late march last year: "The master box being untrainable is a known issue, and is being looked into, it will be fixed ASAP. Is there anything elseI can 'HELP' you with today?"
Frustration and despair aside, it seems the FaRSe is here to stay, the much needed surgery for this tumour isn't coming so here's a thought this thread gave me for a sticking plaster on the gaping wound that would give the enclaves a purpose that would help those who find gang-banging, group on group action distasteful.
My suggestion is that the enclave terminal should have an option to show and issue a challenge to any opposing ranked jedi.
I think this is similar to the mechanic already in place for Ranked DJKs.
On accepting the challenge, both jedi would be transported to locked side rooms off the main chamber to avoid anyone getting an advantage from load times. And the 2 involved would be the only people able to enter the main arena.
My suggestion is that the enclave terminal should have an option to show and issue a challenge to any opposing ranked jedi.
I think this is similar to the mechanic already in place for Ranked DJKs.
On accepting the challenge, both jedi would be transported to locked side rooms off the main chamber to avoid anyone getting an advantage from load times. And the 2 involved would be the only people able to enter the main arena.
The knight challenged, would have the option of refusing the challenge, but this should incur a FaRSe cost penalty. The timer on accepting would be long enough however that both parties had plenty of time to get buffed up and prepared for combat.
On death, thejedi that lostwould be transported to their own enclave, losing frs of course, but with no xp loss and possibly evena new shrine added for non Healers to cure wounds, and a NEW SPECIAL FOCUS crystal! to buff action by 1k for 1hr, enough time to get to safe territory with their tail between their legs.
Since the master box is still unattainable after a year of being a 4x4Guardianand fight clubs are the ONLY feasible way of achieving it in this fubared system, this would at least make a palatable sanctioned version of them.
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Dirk_Pfeiffer
Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:44 am
#112
How about making a planet that only jedi-knight can travel to? But then a planet where ALL jedi from ALL Galaxies!
Restrict the time they can spend there to a few hours per week.
Force them to go there (maybe by make them lose FRS if NOT going there or something).
They can get their FRS xp ONLY there. Makes them dissapear from the public more often.
They will be able to maintain their FRS.
Identical names could be taken care of by adding the galaxy to it when travelling there. I don't know if that is possible, but since youmove to another server when travelling to another planet that should not be impossible. A Cross server Fight Club, lol.
Doc91
Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:28 pm
#113
Great post Gouki, i like this "Plan" And i hope it goes live cuz this FPS sucks, hehe
Bowoci
Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:31 am
#115
SonGouki wrote:
Here's what I proposed in the Correspondent forums regarding the FRS:
Additionally, the following would greatly help to invigorate the FRS:
- Add a Light/Dark faction that exists above the GCW factions.
- Ensure that all the FRS mods are working and benefit every Jedi template.
- Jedi should not generate Visibility from each other.
- There needs to be more balance between the Disciplines. Currently Force Defender and Force Powers are practically usless versus other Jedi, and thus pointless in the FRS.
- The Master/Padawan relationship needs to be established. This is what it is to be a Jedi and solves many of the solitary and experience grinding issues currently plaguing the profession. This is a MMO and players desire and need to play together, the current arrangement completely denies this fundamental requirement. Besides, it would add some kickass content and roleplaying opportunities!
- More content and rewards for players in the FRS and that progress through the ranks. For example: Quests and material rewards (such as power crystals, buff crystals, special color crystals, hybrid crystals, saber hilts, XP, a Jedi starship, and so on). Another good idea is for "retribution" missions on Jedi-killing BH's...
- Enclaves need some lovin'... there's currently no reason to visit them and this is coupled by the fact that the only two outposts on the planet become ganking bottlenecks. First and foremost, starport terminals need to be added to the Enclaves (that are accessible by Jedi only). Other things that could be added are crafting stations, bazaar terminals, banking terminals, and possibly a stationary buffing crystal (9 bars) to give more reason for Jedi to visits the enclaves and play reclusively.
Very nice stuff... especially the tweaked out Enclaves
The following posts explain and address some of these issues in greater detail...
Message Edited by SonGouki on 02-11-2005 10:12 PM
hilighter
Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:12 am
#116
I think that the things in your post will help to a point. However, when your a padawan and you log on to play and 10-20 knights ask you if they can kill you to get FRSEXP it gets old. Then, you get invited to participate in a so called FIGHTCLUB where knights macro and kill us lowly padawans over and over and rez us over and over. I think this is terrible and should be stopped ASAP. I understand that one side is doing it because the other side is doing it but it is stupid. The new jedi comming up will have to challenge and fight our way up after they have macroed their way to the top of FRS. The one suggestion I got is to have the knights getVERY little or no exp for killing a non-knight jedi and encourage them to go after opposite faction knights. Make FIGHTCLUB not worth it to do. Also, with jedi running around with sabers that are overloaded or sabers that actually give the jedi force when used needs to be addressed. What jedi wants to fight another jedi with a -11 Force Cost saber? Jedi rank needs to be earned and maybe there should be more than one way to get it. i.e PVP and PVE. Then let the darkside peeps duel and the lightside have votes on it. Though I dont think the light side voting system will ever truely work or be fair to the jedi in smaller guilds. I do hope that the changes you mentioned and maybe some new changes based on my post will fix the issue and I know its a complicated issue.
Imist
Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:45 am
#117
Fantastic post SonG! 
::crosses fingers:: Lets hope the devs implement your ideas!
::crosses fingers:: Lets hope the devs implement your ideas!