Jedi Archive
Thread: Remove alot of the Jedi by disabling visibility from NPC's
Pday wrote:
DocSavag wrote:
Pday wrote:
one of the problems with this... every single risk reduction for jedi = less power, saber tef and skill loss went, power went down, group vis gone, more power gone, this implemented we have no reason to be 1.5, not that we are now, but this would make jedi a major target for more nerfs.
When i started going for jedi i was promised more power but more risks, why do all these people want this proffession carebeared to death?
Message Edited by Pday on 09-28-2003 11:52 AM
I think you have it backwards. The number of Jedi drive the reduction of power not the amout of risk. The amount of risk is driven down by the reduction in power. Since there is very little they can actually do about the number of Jedi witout damaing the subscription rate in the game I don't see that trend changing.
the saber tef, skill loss would make jedi less visible and make getting to full temp and maintaining it harder. it would also discourage alot of people from trying to get jedi.
a jedi should not be your main, but your alt, it shouldnt be the character you spend most of your time on.
People who are discouraged from getting Jedi if they want to get it quit the game. THey stop paying their $15 a month. They tell their friends to not bother buying the game becasue they couldnt' be a Jedi.
Frustrating people playign Jedi in this game means one thing..less money in SOE/LA's accounts. That is a bad thing for anyone who likes playing this game because those guys aren't in this for the free Mountain Dew
Becouse Jedi is not outlawed by the rebellion nor the old republic, nor the new republic, and finally I doubt there's any rebel who would go through with the fuzz of getting hold of Vader to report a Jedi sighting.
Jacella wrote:
Why wouldn't the Rebelion report an imperial jedi??
MsNiL wrote:
I am confused.
I do not see the connection between factiongrinding and Jedi.
If you want to factiongrind, bring something without a forcebar and build a nice macro.
While there's a point about stormies "reporting", Rebels should never have caused visibility ever... that's just... stupid.
Jacella wrote:
MsNiL wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Although my views on Jedi an Visibility are well known, I see your point. The problem comes from jedi wanting to stay off the boards while grinding faction. In your suggestion, that would mean that anyone would be able to run amok killing stormies and rebel troopers at will without ever having to worry about visibility. Faction bases, both player and static, would become "grind central" and would be exploited horribly.The two possible fixes for this would be:
- Disable experience and visibility in Kashyyk.
- Remove or reduce visibility gained from non-factional npc's, while doubling faction visibility.
I am confused.
I do not see the connection between factiongrinding and Jedi.
If you want to factiongrind, bring something without a forcebar and build a nice macro.
While there's a point about stormies "reporting", Rebels should never have caused visibility ever... that's just... stupid.
Why wouldn't the Rebelion report an imperial jedi??
I don't know. How do dead people report anything?
MsNiL wrote:
Becouse Jedi is not outlawed by the rebellion nor the old republic, nor the new republic, and finally I doubt there's any rebel who would go through with the fuzz of getting hold of Vader to report a Jedi sighting.
Jacella wrote:
Why wouldn't the Rebelion report an imperial jedi??
MsNiL wrote:
I am confused.
I do not see the connection between factiongrinding and Jedi.
If you want to factiongrind, bring something without a forcebar and build a nice macro.
While there's a point about stormies "reporting", Rebels should never have caused visibility ever... that's just... stupid.
Saber Tef = yes
Pday wrote:
the saber tef, skill loss would make jedi less visible and make getting to full temp and maintaining it harder. It would also discourage alot of people from trying to get jedi.
A jedi should not be your main, but your alt, it shouldnt be the character you spend most of your time on.
DocSavag wrote:
I take issue with the assertion that if I join a group knowing that there are things about their life I don't like that I must remain silent about those things. I have no such restriction. If I like playing a pikeman but I hate a certain special or a certain bug I am going to speak out about it. If the majority doesnt support my issue or the issue can't be changed because it would be game breaking then I can either get used to it or quit but that is a dangerous position for the Devs to take because the number of Jedi who don't like pvp is growing every day. You might be happy with them quitting the game. SOE and LA might have other ideas about that.
So...let's take this a step further. You joined the military, you knew the risks, and now you are MOSQ'ed and deployable to Iraq...but instead you decide that you want the beret and not the war..you just want to stay stateside and collect your paycheck and GI-Bill. You say, " I never asked for there to be a war, so therefore why should I be forced to go". Guess what, Sunshine, I am your Drill Sgt. and I am saying that you're going. You have two choices, at this moment: Go and serve as you swore to, or go awol and be branded a deserter.
You chose to serve, you chose to have pvp be part of your life. Don't come crying to us.
DocSavag wrote:
I don't know. How do dead people report anything?
Jacella wrote:
DocSavag wrote:
I take issue with the assertion that if I join a group knowing that there are things about their life I don't like that I must remain silent about those things. I have no such restriction. If I like playing a pikeman but I hate a certain special or a certain bug I am going to speak out about it. If the majority doesnt support my issue or the issue can't be changed because it would be game breaking then I can either get used to it or quit but that is a dangerous position for the Devs to take because the number of Jedi who don't like pvp is growing every day. You might be happy with them quitting the game. SOE and LA might have other ideas about that.
So...let's take this a step further. You joined the military, you knew the risks, and now you are MOSQ'ed and deployable to Iraq...but instead you decide that you want the beret and not the war..you just want to stay stateside and collect your paycheck and GI-Bill. You say, " I never asked for there to be a war, so therefore why should I be forced to go". Guess what, Sunshine, I am your Drill Sgt. and I am saying that you're going. You have two choices, at this moment: Go and serve as you swore to, or go awol and be branded a deserter.
You chose to serve, you chose to have pvp be part of your life. Don't come crying to us.
Wow, they pay you to play Jedi in the game now? And put you through college? Because, I sure didn't pay $15 a month to be in the military, they payed me.
Jacella wrote:
DocSavag wrote:
I take issue with the assertion that if I join a group knowing that there are things about their life I don't like that I must remain silent about those things. I have no such restriction. If I like playing a pikeman but I hate a certain special or a certain bug I am going to speak out about it. If the majority doesnt support my issue or the issue can't be changed because it would be game breaking then I can either get used to it or quit but that is a dangerous position for the Devs to take because the number of Jedi who don't like pvp is growing every day. You might be happy with them quitting the game. SOE and LA might have other ideas about that.
So...let's take this a step further. You joined the military, you knew the risks, and now you are MOSQ'ed and deployable to Iraq...but instead you decide that you want the beret and not the war..you just want to stay stateside and collect your paycheck and GI-Bill. You say, " I never asked for there to be a war, so therefore why should I be forced to go". Guess what, Sunshine, I am your Drill Sgt. and I am saying that you're going. You have two choices, at this moment: Go and serve as you swore to, or go awol and be branded a deserter.
You chose to serve, you chose to have pvp be part of your life. Don't come crying to us.
When I am paid to play this game and I take an oath to play it a certain way your analogy will work until then it's a straw man argument. This is a game that I play for entertainment. If I am not entertained I quit playing and I quit sending in my money. If LA/SOE wants my money they will make changes to make the game more enjoyable to me. Now you and I might have different opinions about how the game should be played. They might have to make a choice about which of us they want to keep. Who do they choose? They choose the best way to keep the most accounts. In your face "Deal with it" is an attitude that you can espouse but the people trying to pay the bills in Austin, TX don't have that luxury.
Jacella wrote:
DocSavag wrote:
I don't know. How do dead people report anything?
"this just in, dozens of bodies were found with lightsaber wounds. DNA found on location match with a Jedi Murder named ______"
Well great..give me a way to dispose of the bodies and I'll be all over it. While you are at it explain why me slaughtering half the pickets on Dantooine doesn't seem to attract any attention. (I know you want any use of force to alert the Emperor's Spidey sense but that is a different conversation)
DocSavag wrote:
Jacella wrote:
DocSavag wrote:
I don't know. How do dead people report anything?
"this just in, dozens of bodies were found with lightsaber wounds. DNA found on location match with a Jedi Murder named ______"
Well great..give me a way to dispose of the bodies and I'll be all over it. While you are at it explain why me slaughtering half the pickets on Dantooine doesn't seem to attract any attention. (I know you want any use of force to alert the Emperor's Spidey sense but that is a different conversation)
