Jedi Archive
Thread: Jedi FAQ v5.4
SonGouki
Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:47 am
#105
Update (September 20th):
- Updated some of the descriptions of the FS skills. [Section 1]
- Added the Force costs for the Total Heals. [Section 5]
- Updated the Knight Trials to reflect the actual order that they occur. [Section 7]
- Added Holocrons to the Jedi Supplies. [Section 11]
- Added the Mark of the Hero Ring for essential Jedi supplies (duh). [Section 11]
- Added a few notes about Jedi Knight status. [Section 12:Qualifying for Jedi Knight]
- Started adding the XP loss from death (cloning) based on your current level (need more input here pls). [Section 12: Death Penalty]
Enjoy!
SonGouki
Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:50 am
#106
RaQel wrote:
just wondering if the knight trials are in any specific order, or are they random like the padawan?
Nope, they're pretty much in a specific order. Sometimespeoplewill get to "skip" one of the trials for some strange reason, but other than that it's the same for everyone. Check out Section 7 again, I just added the order of the trials with my last update. 
SonGouki
Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:56 am
#107
rimalz wrote:
SonGouki, I was having a helluva time finding rebel generals with the recent static spawns nerf/bug/whatever. I did some poking around the forums and found an old message relating to finding holocrons as an imperial. The message suggested doing 8k payout faction missions.
It's a bit tedious, but a 'rebel general' and a 'rebel surface marshall' spawn at each mission, giving you 2 towards your total. Additionally, the old trick of killing the npcs and not killing the uh 'lair' and coming back to find a respawn works on these missions too, at least a few times. That means you can net 12 of your necessary total for each pair of 8k missions.
I can't say whether rebellion missions work the same, but probably safe to assume so.
Edited to add paragraphs
Message Edited by rimalz on 09-19-2004 08:33 AM
Yeah, I've heard that Imperials could get missions for these mobs, but I wasn't able to find out any more details about it. Could you also please post thedifficulty, mission type(s), and if you need to be in a solo group to pull themfor these missions as well?
BTW, supposedly Rebels can't get them from missions... if anyone has any information to contradict that belief could you please post the details as well.
Thanks
msilenius
Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:28 am
#108
i fear the damage multiplier are wrong for ls special attack.
I am no master ls so i can't give you the value.
but spin attack 1 does less damage than action hit 1 (i am using polearm).
or maybe it's because it's on mobs
RaQel
Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:39 am
#109
SonGouki wrote:
RaQel wrote:
just wondering if the knight trials are in any specific order, or are they random like the padawan?Nope, they're pretty much in a specific order. Sometimes people will get to "skip" one of the trials for some strange reason, but other than that it's the same for everyone. Check out Section 7 again, I just added the order of the trials with my last update.
thanks for that, wierd how you update it the day i ask
defleksiyon
Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:48 am
#110
One of the best threads i have ever seen. Thanks a lot Songouki.
Message Edited by defleksiyon on 09-20-2004 08:48 PM
Dalmartynn
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:10 pm
#111
Thank you for the outstanding post. Very informative, and very helpful. May the force be with us all on this journey.
Dal
smork
Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:15 am
#112
SonGouki wrote:
Death Penalty:
- Upon death Jedi now suffer Jedi XP loss.
When death blown by a BH with your mission you will lose -30,000 Jedi XP.
If you clone you will lose an amount of Jedi XP based on your skill level:
-5,000 XP if you have no novice boxes in any of the Jedi Disciplines (new Padawan).
-30,000 XP if your highest Jedi skill is novice or a level 1 box in any Jedi Discipline.
-50,000 XP if your highest Jedi skill is a level 2 box in any Jedi Discipline.
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-200,000 XP if you have any fourth level box (a full branch) in a Jedi Discipline.
If you use Regain Consciousness you will lose -50,000 Jedi XP (but not the -200K).
If you get rez'd by a doc you do not lose any Jedi XP (unless DB'd by a BH of course).
The cap for negative XP is -10 million and it will not 'decay', so be careful!
I died then accidently cloned and only lost 15k xp having only novice LS.
azorielios
Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:53 am
#113
Not sure if this has to do with the new BH term revamp, but I think the xp loss do to BH DB has increased. I am a very weak Jedi (post-9 unlocker) with 0011 in LS, novice in the other 4. Was ganked by a BH last night, lost 112K xp! Luckily I had my ring so I didnt loose any additional xp. Can this be verified?
------------------ NVM. I found out the answer in later threads.
Message Edited by azorielios on 09-23-2004 06:17 AM
SonGouki
Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:58 pm
#114
azorielios wrote:
Not sure if this has to do with the new BH term revamp, but I think the xp loss do to BH DB has increased. I am a very weak Jedi (post-9 unlocker) with 0011 in LS, novice in the other 4. Was ganked by a BH last night, lost 112K xp! Luckily I had my ring so I didnt loose any additional xp. Can this be verified?
------------------ NVM. I found out the answer in later threads.
Message Edited by azorielios on 09-23-2004 06:17 AM
Just to answer this anyway for others to see...
You're right, it has changed (see the patch notes for patch 10.3).
I'm going to update this in the guide as soon as I get the chance... I've been a little busy this week though
LordCed
Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:48 am
#116
Wow, I loved the ideas you presented. Why bother doing anything with the FRS if there is no reward. They dont make patches for jedi they just make nerfs, it only cheapens the Jedi, why did i put the time, energy, and frustration into jedi if all I get is nerfed griefrd and screwed. The changes in this thread will go a long way into making people stop selling their jedi on ebay, and help restore my faith in SOE. The only real question is, will they listen, most of these arent exactly new ideas.
Ced Jedi Templar, Bria
Subsy
Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:17 am
#117
I would just like to say that playing SWG for me was an experience, shame that Jedi is the last ditch hope to keep People enthrawled.
SonGouki maybe you should look at the following and take this up with Devs/Tank.
Why can every man and his dog get BH and attack an Elite Proffession,surely this is a Job for a MBH, hence move Jedi Investigation Missions to master.
IMHO only a Master BH earns the right to hunt a Jedi .
I have spoken to many MBH on Ahazi and other servers and they say the same thing, they feel cheated that a Melee stacker-Inv3 player can take there rightful mark.
This needs to be addressed , or as per usual ,we see not only more Jedi cancelling accounts , but MBH too.
Yes maybe I will get some "your a whiner" replys ,but so be it.
I reserve my right to place a valid point not only for myself , but also for the 100's of Jedi and MBH that feel cheated in this "already messed up game"
Best regards
Subsy