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Thread: Med droids are the biggest exploit the bh have got going now...
Dahrak73 wrote:
Well yes Vader, Luke and Maul used droids for menial tasks like, interrogation, cleaning, farming, surveying and scouting. You didn't see a battle droid next to Vader or Maul helping them fight off their opponents. Nor did C-3PO pull out a blaster and come to the aid of his master.
As far as a Healer 4xxx healing better than an MDoc, no they shouldn't. But a Master Healer should heal better than an MDoc. Just like MLS or MPowers be able to deal more than the insignificant dmg they deal now, comparitevly speaking, to a BH/RM/CM w/ SL buffs.
Really I remebera big smile, when i saw R2 D2 kick some major A$$ while in battle... and his master at the time... the soon to be vader.
QFE. I have to agree. This sounds alot like the "Since I ground jedi exp for X years, all I should have to do is mash "A" ftw". That isnt how this game works. Even a jedi has to think and use tools around him to be effective.
iron19d wrote:
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you are also need to point out that a bh knows when he is going to attack, the jedi has to fight off the original attack and get foods, defensise running, find his target and then begin battle...a serious disadvantage plus having to bring a droid out, find its target, and then run the macro for it....now we have to add in addition the extra foods like rancor aid and manage all of this during a fight....its just to much to worry about....we should be 1.5 times stronger without having to depend on other tools other than our sabers and skills. "
all i have to say is wow.......you want some cheese with your whine
i am sorry but give it a rest, everyone has to learn how to manage their toon during a fight, if its to much for you to handle then dont be a jedi,
ghostmaker
I use a Med R2 to solo high end content. I am a melee payer and will never hunt jedi.
If I lose this to @#$% jedi whiners I may turn to BH after all.
iron19d wrote:
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you are also need to point out that a bh knows when he is going to attack, the jedi has to fight off the original attack and get foods, defensise running, find his target and then begin battle...a serious disadvantage plus having to bring a droid out, find its target, and then run the macro for it....now we have to add in addition the extra foods like rancor aid and manage all of this during a fight....its just to much to worry about....we should be 1.5 times stronger without having to depend on other tools other than our sabers and skills. "
Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 10-25-2005 01:10 PM
Darkvenegence wrote:
its not so much that the idea of a having a med droid in combat helping you heal thats outrageous,its more the fact that BH are able to use it to their advantage and heal them back to full health with bacta spray,once we kill it that should be it dead and shouldnt work anymore,and you shouldnt be able to repair it whilst you're still in combat using repair kits either,if we cant pull food out of a crate in combat its stupid to make us beleivethat BHcan pull out a spanner and a screwdriver to fix a busted up droid
Skurr wrote:
So I have a question for you then......
When this "exploit" is fixed and cant be healed by bacta spray, ect and Droids offer no healing benifits when incapped.........
What are you going to do when you run into a BH with Droid Reconstruction Kits and Repair Stims....?
P.S. as Marrow pointed out, your complaints that leadto the fix of theproblemwont stop BHs from using droids in combat........
Message Edited by Skurr on 10-25-2005 11:21 AM
1. they are going ot have to chose, heal themselves or their droid
2. They wont be able to drag a droid with them almost indefinately
3. Its gonna cost them some for droid stims
Pday wrote:
Skurr wrote:
So I have a question for you then......
When this "exploit" is fixed and cant be healed by bacta spray, ect and Droids offer no healing benifits when incapped.........
What are you going to do when you run into a BH with Droid Reconstruction Kits and Repair Stims....?
P.S. as Marrow pointed out, your complaints that leadto the fix of theproblemwont stop BHs from using droids in combat........
Message Edited by Skurr on 10-25-2005 11:21 AM
1. they are going ot have to chose, heal themselves or their droid \
Not a problem. One wasted combat round. The Jedi wasted one destroying the droid, you waste one healing it. Back to square one.
2. They wont be able to drag a droid with them almost indefinately
As it currently stands all pets and droids can be dragged intorange for a heal/repair. To change this would complety negate the purpose of /drag command. I feel this should remain as it is.
3. Its gonna cost them some for droid stims
With the gazillionairs that exist today you cite this as a problem?? Lol. This will actually help DE.
KRAKEN666 wrote:
at least he would be distracted in the fight long enough to make a differnce. right now, he benifits two ways with bacta spray, droid and himelf healed. there also needs to be a limit on how many droids can be used in a fight.....you cant pull items out of a crate during a fight, does this mean droids also? and he would have to repair the droid which has timers involved. so your saying, go ahead and use th exploit...man, dont ever complain jedi want an i win button....bh want one worse...if a jedi can kill the droid it should stay dead and no benifits from it. if you kill my speeder, i am walking arent i. why cant the same be for droids...dead is dead....if a bh wants to take time to repair a droid in a fight using a repair kit, then thats perfectly legal....but bacta is a cheap way to get around it....you are going to get mcm's nerfed again along with hurting the de proffesion...but most bh could care less about others gamers...they worry about number one dont they? The mere fact of how many bh have come in here to complain and flame the people who support this just proves the fact that bh dont want this fixed at all. Its a valuable exploit to them.
2. A CM/BH will have three B. Heals to pick from. In order to heal quickly a CM will often heal using two of these three. B. Toss suffers from two things (a) you have to be still to use it (b) the enhancer for it is bugged such that if you have an enemy targeted it will not heal. As a result the two common heals used are B. Shot and B. Spray. There is no way to prevent a B. Spray from healing a droid.
So if you wish to argue that using B. Spray is an exploit then it is one that can not be prevented with normal use of a skill. It would be like trying to use adv ST and not getting a KD.
I also am in the opinion that Bacta Spray and other heals used by Med professions should not be used to heal droids. This breaks DE as a profession and limits their income. (give my DE alt some business, lol)
Once again i dont support the use of the Bacta whatever to heal a droid. But the fix wont stop BHs from using droids effectively against Jedi either. You also seem to forget about self repair modules. A droid with armor and 3 of these babies WONT be destoryed in 1 or 2 hits. That at least 2 rounds a jedi has to waste destroying a droid. What I dont want to see is DE get nerfed anymore than it already is.
Message Edited by Skurr on 10-25-2005 11:34 AM
Skurr wrote:
So I have a question for you then......
When this "exploit" is fixed and cant be healed by bacta spray, ect and Droids offer no healing benifits when incapped.........
What are you going to do when you run into a BH with Droid Reconstruction Kits and Repair Stims....?Now you have a BH that uses no mind and little action to heal their droid, lol.
P.S. as Marrow pointed out, your complaints that lead to the fix of the problem wont stop BHs from using droids in combat........
Message Edited by Skurr on 10-25-2005 11:22 AM
I don't speak for everyone in this thread, but I think to sum it up. If a BH can heal a droid, let the jedi heal the droid. If the BH can't heal the droid, don't let Jedi heal the droid either.
I think that's a pretty fair assessment. Currently, that's not the case. Do you disaggree with that?